January 2, 2002 at 2:34 pm #28427
Wachinika wrote: Welcome to Matthew, Matsane and Michelle 🙂 .
I can’t see this would happen. My family appears to be a mix of only Indian and Euro-Americans. There’d be no bringing black into it for mixed blood ID. As a child growing up in the 50’s, whites in Indiana referred to black people as Negro…never Black. Only after the 60’s when the popular Black culture let it be known they wanted to be referred to as Black did that become the term applied to those of African-American descent.
I had forgotten about the designation of Black not being used until the 1960’s. Thanks for the reminder. Strange as it may seem, the little town I grew up in only had one or two “Black” families in it so the issue of that particular racial designation wasn’t a topic of every day conversation. However, since we live in the southwest, where Spanish is almost as commonly spoken as English, the words Negro and Black are synonymous. I forget that is not true throughout the whole country.January 2, 2002 at 2:34 pm #28428
Linda wrote: Matsane, all of the points of origin of your family, Virginia, North Carolina, Kentucky, and then through the midwest could possibly be the sources of the Blackfoot ID in your family.
Since the Blackfoot ID comes from my father’s side of the family it would be from the Ellis/Wright families. According to census records, Thomas Ellis was born in South Carolina and Judah Wright was born in North Carolina. Somehow they married and ended up in Indiana. They then moved to Brown Co., Illinois where they apparently died. Even though my dad always told me it was a Dutcher who took up with a Blackfoot woman, I’m thinking it was more likely an Ellis.January 2, 2002 at 2:34 pm #28486
I believe wright were distant cousins.Where were they from? what part of NC? These “wright” were from Warren county.
Matsane wrote: Since the Blackfoot ID comes from my father’s side of the family it would be from the Ellis/Wright families. According to census records, Thomas Ellis was born in South Carolina and Judah Wright was born in North Carolina. Somehow they married and ended up in Indiana. They then moved to Brown Co., Illinois where they apparently died. Even though my dad always told me it was a Dutcher who took up with a Blackfoot woman, I’m thinking it was more likely an Ellis.January 2, 2002 at 2:34 pm #29290
Sorry I didn’t reply sooner. 😮 I have no idea what part of North Carolina they were from. I just know North Carolina from census records.January 2, 2002 at 2:34 pm #32284
My grandmother was a Mitchum and was supposedly related to Robert Mitchum the actor. Well, I was looking at some of Robert Mitchum’s genealogy and interestingly enough, his brother wrote a book in which he was quoting a letter from one of his Aunts and described her as “…Also, very clearly I remember our Aunt Alice Pat, pure Blackfoot lady.”
My grandmothers family were from Rockinham Co. NC.January 2, 2002 at 2:34 pm #32327
Oh wow! I just saw one of Robert Mitchum’s best films. I can’t remember the name. It’s the one where he has love/hate tatooed on his knuckles. He’s a homicidal psychopath who’s just killed Shirley something and is after her children and Lillian Gish defeats him. One of the best films of that decade. The imagery is unbelievable.
I suppose that might be where he got those rugged good looks . . .
How do you relate to the Mitchums. I don’t suppose you know how Aunt Alice Pat fits in.January 2, 2002 at 2:34 pm #32328
His mother was Norwegian and his father was Scots-Irish on his father’s side and Native American Blackfoot on his mother’s side.
See, now you’ve got” documentation” that there’s Blackfoot in the family. Oh, you mean, Hollywood biographies don’t qualify as original source material?
Would anybody know how to track down this man’s genealogy?January 2, 2002 at 2:34 pm #32329
Ambrose Mitchum (1804 – 1887) & Elizabeth ?
John Sessions Mitchum (1842 – 1900) & Laura Thompson (1847 – ?)
James Thomas Mitchum (1886 – 1919, Railroad Worker) & Ann Harriet Gunderson (1894 – 1990)
Robert Charles Duran/Durman Mitchum, b. 1917, Bridgeport Connecticut
Parents of Ambrose Mitchum, speculated to be Ambrose Meacham & Lucy Rising, but no proof.January 2, 2002 at 2:34 pm #32330
How do you relate to the Mitchums. I don’t suppose you know how Aunt Alice Pat fits in.
My GreatGreatgrandfather was Nicholas Mitchum from Reidsville NC. My Greatgrandmother was Sallie Mitchum. My Grandmother was Ila Beasley and she always said we were related to Robert Mitchum. How? I’m not sure yet. My GGgrandmother Beasley was known to the family as a fiesty Indian woman who shot a man trying to steal her chickens. He died from the wound later on. Reidsville NC in Caswell Co. seems to be where I need to start that genealogical research.January 2, 2002 at 2:34 pm #32336
That should be a very fruitful search. If you can establish the Robert Mitchum link, then you’ve got a very public statement concerning the Blackfoot ID.January 2, 2002 at 2:34 pm #32447
FYI: Reidsville NC is in Rockingham County.January 2, 2002 at 2:34 pm #32448
Yep, you’re right about that. I was thinking halfway about Milton NC too. I remember knowing my Grandma came from Rockingham and I made the mistake originally thinking it was Rockingham Co. VA. My bad.January 2, 2002 at 2:34 pm #32546
I hear the same thing in my family on my mother’s side. However, they are from Indian Woods and Piney Woods.January 2, 2002 at 2:34 pm #32548
Hi, Rhoadie. Welcome to the site. I take it you mean there’s a story of being Blackfoot in that line? That’s interesting. Did you see my article at http://www.saponitown.com/Blackfoot.htm? You’re familiar with our theory that the Blackfoot ID speaks for Eastern Siouan/Saponi/Tutelo descent? The Saponi were in the vicinity of what’s now Bertie county. They were noted as being there for around ten years in the early 1700’s. There is a Saponi creek near there named for them.
I’ve heard of some other people I suspect are connected to Saponi remnants having ties to that area.January 2, 2002 at 2:34 pm #32559
Yes, I have heard that term Blackfoot in my family. I also hear people in my region say the same thing. I have read your article which was informative. I was surprised to have 5 of those Native American surnames with 2 of them being Blackfoot in my family line (Jones, Williamson, White, Lee, and Turner).
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