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    DCollins
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    #32949

    DCollins
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    LOL, what did Andy Warhol say about 15 minutes of fame ?………

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_%22Nanmankoi%22_Newman

    #32950

    DCollins
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    I tried to find your “Marketing Company”. Couldn’t find a thing. In this day and age I would think a “Marketing Company” would have good Internet exposure ?

    Maybe all youir posts on Gen forum that wetre deleted by Gen Forum is what you consider “Marketing”, I’d call it “Spaam”. BTW I have use of an online dictionary also.

    Thinking of you you, this word comes to mind:

    Fraud

    Definition:

    1. [n] something intended to deceive; deliberate trickery intended to gain an advantage

    2. [n] intentional deception resulting in injury to another person

    3. [n] a person who makes deceitful pretenses

    Synonyms: dupery, fake, faker, fraudulence, hoax, humbug, imposter, impostor, pretender, pseud, pseudo, put-on, role player, sham, shammer

    http://www.hyperdictionary.com/search.aspx?define=fraud

    If the shoe fits, wear it…..

    DC

    #32952

    Ga-Nc Collins
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    A Strange People

    By Will Allen Dromgoole

    Nashville Sunday American

    September 1, 1890

    The owner was a full-blooded Indian, with keen, black eyes, straight black hair, high cheeks, and a hook nose. He played upon his violin with his fingers instead of a bow, and entertained us with a history of his grandfather, who was a Cherokee chief, and by singing some of the songs of his tribe. He also described the Malungeon custom of amusements. The dance is a favorite pastime consisting of a two, four or six-handed reel. Whiskey is a very popular guest at their entertainments, and fights are not an uncommon result. In a fight each man’s friends are expected to take sides and help, and the fight continues until one side at least is whipped.

    So yea…fighting is nothing new…

    We also have a tendency to get in trouble for mischeif sometimes too lol

    Such as our family trip to Florida for spring break back in the 90’s when we mixed 4 cases of pabst blue ribbon and natural ice beer and a bag full of bottle rockets….and apprently one landed on the windshield of a cop car hahaha…..that dude was mad to say the least hahaha….I think we had gotten a 50 dollar ticket for it lol

    http://s27.photobucket.com/albums/c194/Atlanta44/?action=view&current=Busted.flv

    http://s27.photobucket.com/albums/c194/Atlanta44/?action=view&current=Busted2.flv

    Then there is the occasional alpha males butting heads lol

    http://s27.photobucket.com/albums/c194/Atlanta44/?action=view&current=lowism.flv

    #32953

    Ga-Nc Collins
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    DCollins wrote: I tried to find your “Marketing Company”. Couldn’t find a thing. In this day and age I would think a “Marketing Company” would have good Internet exposure ?

    Maybe all youir posts on Gen forum that wetre deleted by Gen Forum is what you consider “Marketing”, I’d call it “Spaam”. BTW I have use of an online dictionary also.

    Thinking of you you, this word comes to mind:

    Fraud

    Definition:

    1. [n] something intended to deceive; deliberate trickery intended to gain an advantage

    2. [n] intentional deception resulting in injury to another person

    3. [n] a person who makes deceitful pretenses

    Synonyms: dupery, fake, faker, fraudulence, hoax, humbug, imposter, impostor, pretender, pseud, pseudo, put-on, role player, sham, shammer

    http://www.hyperdictionary.com/search.aspx?define=fraud

    If the shoe fits, wear it…..

    DC

    http://www.inviewsystems.com/

    Like I said before…find me in a lie…you can’t do it.

    #32954

    Ga-Nc Collins
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    DCollins wrote: I think this thread is self explanatory…. Chiefie……

    http://www.powwows.com/gathering/native-issues/44992-saponi-descendants-not-allowed-membership-nc.html

    That right there shows your true colors and who’s side you are on.

    That was a post I made to let people know there is descendants who REALLY are listed on HISTORICAL saponi documents who are NOT being allowed to be recognized for who they truely are……the descendants who currently use this message board are the large chunk of those descendants who are being refused their blood right recognigtion……so you trying to use that post agianst me is you attacking not only me but every single descendant who is not being given their blood right recognigtion…..which is a large chunk of the people who post on this site. everything I posted on that thread is the same thing everyone here except you agree on…..since you DON, have posted on other places that the Collins are NOT saponi. So yea it would make sense that you would try and use that post hahaha.

    Here is what that post said:

    I guess this is the best place to put this since it is a native issue.

    However as some people may or not be aware but currently there is a large amount of Saponi Descendants which are NOT being allowed membership to the state recognized tribes in NC which use the Saponi name.

    So what I encourage people to do if they wish is to research all the information on the Saponi tribe. Study the names which are attached to these documents which was recorded back in the 1700’s.

    Personally I feel it is a great injustice which is going on. Maybe the descendants have been quite for too long.

    To start your research I suggest some writeings by Robert K Thomas. Robert K. Thomas, who died in 1991, was an anthropologist, professor, and Cherokee

    Indian. The main writing I will suggest is:

    “Cherokee Communities of the South” which was written by Mr. Thomas in the mid-70’s. It includes a hand drawn map at the end and appears to be a result of some of Mr. Thomas’ survey work in the southeastern United States during the summer of 1978. It was submitted to the Consortium of American Indian Title IV Programs of Southeastern Michigan in 1979.

    You should be able to find the entire writings online if you google the book name.

    #32955

    DCollins
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    http://www.geocities.com/manahoac_saponi/Links.html

    Start with this “distortion of the truth”

    Listing Jack Goins and Stephen Pony Hill as top researcher for the Manahoac Saponi Nation. Jack Goins is not connected to the Manahoac Saponi Nation that I am aware of.

    Also If Mr. Goins is such a good “friend” of yours, I wonder why he doen’t have any links to your “Tribe’s” site?. After all you ‘talk’ all the time. Not to mention he is one of your “Top researchers”.

    Then there is the 70 tribes you are always in contact with, how about your Smithonian connection ?

    How about your marketing firm ? Send a link, or give a list of all your clients.

    DC

    #32956

    Ga-Nc Collins
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    I will always fight for ALL those descendants who are not being given their birth right recognigtion…..while there is people who DO NOT claim Saponi and are being given Recognigtion as Saponi……..personally I find something really wrong with that picture…..

    The thread got closed after a lady from the Haliwa Saponi was asked by me…how does she descend from the “historical” saponi and how is she Saponi….she could not answer the question…..so she closed the thread.

    It was the same lady who asked me to help with the protest and boycott of G105……I helped her for a entire week with that…..then when I told her that me and the other Saponi descendants wanted to be recognized as Saponi which is our birth right….her reply was “what have ya’ll done for us”…..I myself had gotten over 600 supporters to boycott g150…..and a few other people from this message board was helping gain supporters……yet our thanks is “what have ya’ll done for us”.

    Funny thing….is 50 people from that site sent me private messages telling me thanks for me trying to inform more people about the other Saponi Descendants….and out of all the members on that site….there was only 3 people (who are close friends and with the Haliwa) who even tried to discredit me….yet them same 3 people got silent when they was asked how are they Saponi.

    Right now there is a good amount of people who claim to be nansemond and Nanticoke….and some who’s ancestors was Catawba not Saponi….but they are falsely recognized in NC as Saponi. while people like us who really are documented Saponi can not even get our recognigtion.

    In fact….our ancestors was in Granville and Orange county, NC nearly 100 years before any of them moved to that area…..we are the ones named Saponi of Granville, nc…..not them….if their ancestors was the Saponi of the mid 1700’s in granville, nc…then show me their ancestors in granville, nc in the mid 1700’s lol

    #32957

    Ga-Nc Collins
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    DCollins wrote: http://www.geocities.com/manahoac_saponi/Links.html

    Start with this “distortion of the truth”

    Listing Jack Goins and Stephen Pony Hill as top researcher for the Manahoac Saponi Nation. Jack Goins is not connected to the Manahoac Saponi Nation that I am aware of.

    Also If Mr. Goins is such a good “friend” of yours, I wonder why he doen’t have any links to your “Tribe’s” site?. After all you ‘talk’ all the time. Not to mention he is one of your “Top researchers”.

    Then there is the 70 tribes you are always in contact with, how about your Smithonian connection ?

    How about your marketing firm ? Send a link, or give a list of all your clients.

    DC

    They are in the links section…and listed as “top researchers”…..not researchers of the manahoac Saponi.

    Jack H Goins (Top Researcher) Steven Pony Hill (Top Researcher)

    That is what is says.

    One of my smithsonian connections is Gabrielle Tayac…..who is not only a Collins descendant but also with the Piscataway tribe and descendant of Turkey Tayac. She has been very helpful to me.

    Oh…and once agian…I got you in a lie.

    “we also have 8 states and 3 federally recognized tribes we are consulting with and they have been helping us out alot” (that is on page 2 of this thread for anyone who might care to check it out ).

    I guess you forgot how to count huh…..I guess in your world 8 plus 3 equals 70 huh lol.

    Now what was that definition of “fraud” agian?

    You might as well face it….you can’t beat me in a debate.

    #32958

    DCollins
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    No comment on Mr. Goins ? LOL.

    [edit] External links

    The two links is to the Manahoac Saponi Mattamuskeet nation’s official website (native American tribes do not have a lot of money to afford fancy websites so the most common website used by Native American tribes are Geocities…..they should not be punished for not having enough money to afford the fancy websites. The other link is to Steven Pony Hill who is considered the top researcher for the South Carolina community and a guy who works closely with Joseph “Nanmankoi” Newman.

    Retrieved from “http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_%22Nanmankoi%22_Newman

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    #32959

    DCollins
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    I find it interesting how you claim to be a graphic designer but you can’t afford a FANCY web page. I would think you would get free or discount services for working for such a prestigious company!

    Now where did you say your Marketing firm Was located ?

    DC

    #32960

    DCollins
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    This might not be a lie, but it sure isn’t the truth. You have a very distorted view of Indians…….

    “The two links is to the Manahoac Saponi Mattamuskeet nation’s official website (native American tribes do not have a lot of money to afford fancy websites so the most common website used by Native American tribes are Geocities…..they should not be punished for not having enough money to afford the fancy websites. The other link is to Steven Pony Hill who is considered the top researcher for the South Carolina community and a guy who works closely with Joseph “Nanmankoi” Newman.”

    Look at the sites on this link below, you might want to rewrite your BS above. Did you say you were in Marketing ?

    Some look kind of “Fancy” to me, maybe these tribes had members pan handle or sell “trinkets” to scrounce enough $$ to be able to have these web sites. Maybe even Old folks and children went without food, just to have a meger presence on the World Wide Web, LOL

    Maybe your “Tribe” should get their thinking up, but then again since they have a headsman who runs a successful marketing firm, and is a creative graphic designer, why should dinero be a problem ? Don’t you agree…. pendejo ?

    http://www.judicare.org/tribes.html

    DC

    #32961

    Ga-Nc Collins
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    DCollins wrote: No comment on Mr. Goins ? LOL.

    [edit] External links

    The two links is to the Manahoac Saponi Mattamuskeet nation’s official website (native American tribes do not have a lot of money to afford fancy websites so the most common website used by Native American tribes are Geocities…..they should not be punished for not having enough money to afford the fancy websites. The other link is to Steven Pony Hill who is considered the top researcher for the South Carolina community and a guy who works closely with Joseph “Nanmankoi” Newman.

    Retrieved from “http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_%22Nanmankoi%22_Newman

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    your such a idiot hahaha

    That is a WIKIPEDIA PAGE made by people other than me hahaha

    No wikipedia page is made by the people the page is about……DUH

    #32962

    Ga-Nc Collins
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    DCollins wrote: This might not be a lie, but it sure isn’t the truth. You have a very distorted view of Indians…….

    “The two links is to the Manahoac Saponi Mattamuskeet nation’s official website (native American tribes do not have a lot of money to afford fancy websites so the most common website used by Native American tribes are Geocities…..they should not be punished for not having enough money to afford the fancy websites. The other link is to Steven Pony Hill who is considered the top researcher for the South Carolina community and a guy who works closely with Joseph “Nanmankoi” Newman.”

    Look at the sites on this link below, you might want to rewrite your BS above. Did you say you were in Marketing ?

    Some look kind of “Fancy” to me, maybe these tribes had members pan handle or sell “trinkets” to scrounce enough $$ to be able to have these web sites. Maybe even Old folks and children went without food, just to have a meger presence on the World Wide Web, LOL

    Maybe your “Tribe” should get their thinking up, but then again since they have a headsman who runs a successful marketing firm, and is a creative graphic designer, why should dinero be a problem ? Don’t you agree…. pendejo ?

    http://www.judicare.org/tribes.html

    DC

    You soooo lost this debate hahahaha

    It’s called…Wikipedia hahahahaha…..nothing on wikipedia is by the people or group each page is about……….

    Also any tribe who is not reocgnized is not allowed to sale “trinkets” etc etc……it is highly agianst the law to sale any crafts item and label it native american made unless the person is part of a group that is recognized by the government. Also for donations a person has to have a non profit permit which probally costs around 800 bucks to get….asking for any money from anyone without a non profit permit is illegal.

    Two, I never said the marketing and advertising firm I worked for was a company I owned…..I was a employee on the marketing and graphic design team……duh…..if I was the owner I would have said “I own a marketing firm”…….just because a person is a employee of a company does not mean they are the owner…..

    http://www.merchantcircle.com/business/Inview.Systems.770-463-5090

    http://www.yellowpages.com/name/Atlanta-GA/in-view-systems

    Review of Inview systems from the Yellow pages website:

    helpful

    Posted by AtlantaTraveler on 09/24/2007

    Mike and Joseph was very helpful and polite; they listened to my needs fully; they gave me a finished product worthy of my business name.

    rated 5 stars out of 9 reviews.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkey_Tayac

    Wow Don…I guess Turkey Tayac was able to write a wikipedia page after after he died….wooooow…..Wikipedia must have magical powers……hahahaha

    Oh and here is all the stuff that has to be done before ANYONE can ask for donations of any kind in the united states of america (I know this kind of stuff because my aunt works for the IRS and like I mentioned before, my mother and father in laws have para legal law degrees).

    http://www.fgfservices.com/info.php?pageId=569

    #32963

    DCollins
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    Here is the only place I cn find a connection between Joseph Newman and In-View Systems,

    http://tinyurl.com/6ovrw7

    Marketing ? Mr. Goins ?

    Looks like the Joey Boy Wiki has changed again

    BTW there is no such thing as a “Pre Newman Ridge Melungeon”, and Newman certainly wasn’t a “Melungeon”.

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    Joseph “Nanmankoi” Newman

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    Joseph Newman aka Nanamankoi (which means three arrows in the Siouan language) is a descendant of the Saponi, Machapunga, Catawba, Cherokee, Hatteras/Croatoan, and Carib historical Native American tribes. Joseph is also a pre-Newman’s Ridge Melungeon descendant. Joseph also descends from Ruebin Newman who is the possible descendant of the Longhunter who Newman’s Ridge Tennessee was named after.

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    [edit] Early life

    Joseph was born in Atlanta, Georgia in 1977, His father’s family had moved to Atlanta from Paulding county, Georgia where they had migrated mostly from Eastern North Carolina and South Carolina during the Georgia Land Lottery in the 1830s. While grew up on the same street as Chris Smith of the Hiphop group Kriss Kross. He also spent some of his childhood in the 1980s living across the street from Levi Walker aka Chief Noc-a-Homa of the Atlanta Braves baseball team. During the 1990s-2002 he was an accomplished Graffiti artist of the South Eastern United states which gave him a taste for marketing and advertising. Joseph’s middle school math teacher was a Atlanta Hawks Cheerleader, his classmates in high school included Andre 3000 of the Hiphop group Outkast, Kandi Buress of the R and B group Xscape, and Comedian Kennan Thompson. During Joseph’s time at Tri-Cities school of performing arts he acquired a more professional take on the performing arts world. Jospeh also had a interest in learning Egyptology and the teachings of the United Creek nation of Moors, Joseph often listened to Nuwaubian speakers, as time went on Joseph studied world cultures, religions, and population migrations which lead to a great interest into the guanches of the Canary islands and the Chachapoya tribe of the Inca nation.

    [edit] Adult life

    After a arrest for his Graffiti mural art, Joseph decided to seek a professional take like his fellow artist friends such as Ward Jenkins who is a animation Director at Laika house and world known artist Totem2 which lead to Joseph spending a time as part of the Marketing and Graphic design team of In-View systems Marketing and Advertising firm. Joseph also spent a time entering talent shows and dance contests such as coming in 2nd place at a dance contest for the Atlanta radio station Hot 97.5 among other contests. As time went on Joseph became more interested into furthering his own family history after studying the works of Piscataway Chief Turkey Tayac. Joseph as always knowing his family was Native American descendants he wanted to reconnect with his heritage which lead him eve further into wanting to know all there was about where his family came. Soon Joseph was seeking out the other descendants in a attempt to reclaim their Native heritage, consulting with many other established tribes in the Southeastern United States and asking for guidance led to him founding the Manahoac Saponi Mattamuskeet Nation. Joseph Newman is often found comparing notes with many other researchers of the South Eastern Native American communities. Joseph future plans is to release a book on all of his research and to organize events throughout the South East in order to promote how Native American communities often mixed with other races and produced descendants who today look Native, White, and black. Many people see Joseph’s visions as a new and fresh approach of promoting people’s acceptance of all races and how people look at their own self and the truth about the founding of America.

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