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  • #4336

    GGM_Robbins
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    I started collecting photos of Wyandot people on this board on Pinterest. They are not my ancestors, but they may be yours. Names include BROWN, STARKEY, YOUNG, COTTER, CONLEY, ARMSTRONG and others. It is up to you to verify the accuracy of their identities.

    https://www.pinterest.com/genilady/huronwendatwyandot/

    #37364

    MarcSnelling
    Keymaster

    GGM_Robbins;38117 wrote: I started collecting photos of Wyandot people on this board on Pinterest. They are not my ancestors, but they may be yours. Names include BROWN, STARKEY, YOUNG, COTTER, CONLEY, ARMSTRONG and others. It is up to you to verify the accuracy of their identities.

    https://www.pinterest.com/genilady/huronwendatwyandot/

    My wife and daughters and descendants of Annenontak (Catherine) Arendanki – Wendat, Bear Clan. Daughter of Nicolas Arendanki and Jeanne Otrihihouandit.

    This line were all born in Quebec, until my wife’s mother (born in VT). The oldest picture I have on this line is Stanislas Parent (1867-1964)

    #37365

    GGM_Robbins
    Participant

    Marc,

    So interesting! I definitely need to start exploring Canadian connections. I know my 4th great grandparents, Ebenezer LANDON and Permalee CLEMONS, lived in St. John, New Brunswick, Canada at one time. Both were born in Litchfield, CT.

    Somewhere online I saw a great map of migration trails, but I did not bookmark it. Have you seen it?

    #37366

    MarcSnelling
    Keymaster

    GGM_Robbins;38119 wrote: Marc,

    So interesting! I definitely need to start exploring Canadian connections. I know my 4th great grandparents, Ebenezer LANDON and Permalee CLEMONS, lived in St. John, New Brunswick, Canada at one time. Both were born in Litchfield, CT.

    Somewhere online I saw a great map of migration trails, but I did not bookmark it. Have you seen it?

    I haven’t seen a migration trail for the Wyandot, I’ve seen them for the Saponi. For the ancestors in my wife’s family the migration was from the Lake Huron/Georgian Bay area to Quebec City in the 1600s, (ostensibly to escape warfare with the Iroquois), then down the St Lawrence to Montreal by the 1700s, south to the Granby area in the 1800s, and then across the border to Vermont in the 1930s.

    The current reserve is in Wendake QC, but the Wendat have an historical claim to the area that it is now the Sillery/St-Foy suburbs of Quebec City. (ironically where I was born) Historical documents have been uncovered that show the area was sold by the Jesuits to the Wendat in 1792.

    The migration path of the English-speaking branch of the Wyandot I don’t know.

    #37367

    MarcSnelling
    Keymaster

    One interesting thing I learned in doing my wife’s genealogy/DNA… on her father’s side there is no family history of French/Acadian ancestors. Her grandmother gave us a DNA sample and when I looked at the people she is related to there were a number of them who had been in New Brunswick for hundred of years.

    For one of these cousins, who still lives in NB today, I was able to find a common ancestor in Quebec ten generations back. When I looked at the line of ancestors that connects to my wife, it turns out the one who crossed the border into Maine in the 1800s changed his name from Durepos to Hoskins. Which seems to have successfully hid a French background for all the following generations of my wife’s family… until now.

    #37368

    GGM_Robbins
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    MarcSnelling;38120 wrote: I haven’t seen a migration trail for the Wyandot, I’ve seen them for the Saponi. For the ancestors in my wife’s family the migration was from the Lake Huron/Georgian Bay area to Quebec City in the 1600s, (ostensibly to escape warfare with the Iroquois), then down the St Lawrence to Montreal by the 1700s, south to the Granby area in the 1800s, and then across the border to Vermont in the 1930s.

    The current reserve is in Wendake QC, but the Wendat have an historical claim to the area that it is now the Sillery/St-Foy suburbs of Quebec City. (ironically where I was born) Historical documents have been uncovered that show the area was sold by the Jesuits to the Wendat in 1792.

    The migration path of the English-speaking branch of the Wyandot I don’t know.

    Can you recommend a good book to learn more about the Wyandot? I have some studying to do it seems.

    #37369

    techteach
    Moderator

    GGM

    I see Huston as a name in your surname list. Where and how does Huston enter your line? Snowflower and I share one that no one can determine where he comes from, although I am convinced he is from the Huntingdon, PA area where the Sinkeys were from. I found a circa 185-something book that talks of a Mrs. Huston who was killed when she insisted she had to tend her crops at a time when all the rest of the settlers were holing up in forts. Her farm was near the Sinkeys. I also find Hustons on the Rev War muster roster with my Sinkey. Bill Childs several years ago gave me what he thought was a line for the Hustons as originating from this area.

    Techteach

    #37370

    GGM_Robbins
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    techteach;38123 wrote: GGM

    I see Huston as a name in your surname list. Where and how does Huston enter your line? Snowflower and I share one that no one can determine where he comes from, although I am convinced he is from the Huntingdon, PA area where the Sinkeys were from. I found a circa 185-something book that talks of a Mrs. Huston who was killed when she insisted she had to tend her crops at a time when all the rest of the settlers were holing up in forts. Her farm was near the Sinkeys. I also find Hustons on the Rev War muster roster with my Sinkey. Bill Childs several years ago gave me what he thought was a line for the Hustons as originating from this area.

    Techteach

    My HUSTON line:

    James HUSTON (dies 1845) marries Mary DOWNING- Venango Co, PA

    John HUSTON (1837-1917) married Jane HUGHES- Venango Co, PA (Civil War vet)

    Mary Emma HUSTON (1861-1934) marries Henry THOMAS- Venango Co, PA

    Mary Katherine THOMAS (1904-1986) marries Paul Oscar TRAX- Venango Co, PA

    Paul Thomas TRAX (1926-2006) marries Dolores Flo GREEN- mostly Berks Co, PA (my parents)

    Mrs. James HUSTON died in Kent, DE in 1886. Cause of death unknown. Mrs. John HUSTON died in Venango Co, PA in 1924. Cause of death unknown. Techteach, if you can locate the name of the book mentioning Mrs. HUSTON tending her crops I would love to read that.

    Richland, Venango Co, PA is about 140 miles northwest of Huntindon, PA.

    #37371

    MarcSnelling
    Keymaster

    GGM_Robbins;38122 wrote: Can you recommend a good book to learn more about the Wyandot? I have some studying to do it seems.

    I did some more research. Here is a map of the Wyandot migration:

    At a glance it seems possible the Wynadot migration path could have crossed early Saponi migration paths in Ohio.

    I haven’t read any books on the subject, but here are some web links with good material:

    Wendake.ca is the official website for the Huron-Wendat reserve in Wendake Quebec. Currently the Grand Chief is Konrad Sioui. There was a good article written about him by the Aboriginal Multi-Media Society http://www.ammsa.com/publications/windspeaker/grand-chief-konrad-siou%C3%AF-honours-kiowarini

    This article talks about the 1990 Canadian Supreme Court case Québec vs Sioui. This case resulted in the government of Canada being forced to recoginze the validity of the treaty signed in 1760. It also talks about François Vincent Kiowarini (a descendant of Chief Nicholas Vincent 1771-1844) a researcher and family historian who found the original treaty document to present to the courts for this case.

    This is an article written by another descendant of Annennontak (Catherine) Arendanki from Louisianna:

    http://jerileewei.hubpages.com/hub/The-Education-of-a-Cajun-Traiteuse—Faith-Healer—Part-II

    It talks about some of the healing traditions passed down, the Wynadot wampum belt made by Jeanne Otrihondit – Catherine Arendanki’s mother, and about some of the surnames associated with this group of descendants. One well-known person who claims descent from this line is Angelina Jolie.

    Descendants from this group would later move west and make up part of the people that have come to be known as Métis (may-tea). Even though Québec is where many Métis (pronounced may-tiss in French) ancestors came from there is little recognition of Métis groups in Québec today. Some see two definitions of Métis identity. Capital M Métis – meaning the Red River Settlement, Louis Riel and such, and small m métis – meaning anyone with both european and aboriginal ancestors.

    Anyway not sure if this is helpful.

    #37372

    techteach
    Moderator

    GGM – that just solidifies my belief that the Hustons were from PA. You should tell Snowflower about your Huston line if you have not done that yet.

    Techteach

    #37373

    GGM_Robbins
    Participant

    MarcSnelling;38125 wrote: I did some more research. Here is a map of the Wyandot migration:

    At a glance it seems possible the Wynadot migration path could have crossed early Saponi migration paths in Ohio.

    Anyway not sure if this is helpful.

    Marc,

    The migration map did not open for me, but I really enjoyed reading the other links. I especially liked the faith healing one. My husband’s great grandmother was a faith healer. In Pennsylvania Dutch country we call it practicing pow-wow.

    #37375

    MarcSnelling
    Keymaster

    Trying the map again…

    #37377

    GGM_Robbins
    Participant

    MarcSnelling;38121 wrote: One interesting thing I learned in doing my wife’s genealogy/DNA… on her father’s side there is no family history of French/Acadian ancestors. Her grandmother gave us a DNA sample and when I looked at the people she is related to there were a number of them who had been in New Brunswick for hundred of years.

    For one of these cousins, who still lives in NB today, I was able to find a common ancestor in Quebec ten generations back. When I looked at the line of ancestors that connects to my wife, it turns out the one who crossed the border into Maine in the 1800s changed his name from Durepos to Hoskins. Which seems to have successfully hid a French background for all the following generations of my wife’s family… until now.

    Forgive my ignorance, but why did they feel the necessity of hiding their French background?

    #37378

    GGM_Robbins
    Participant

    MarcSnelling;38132 wrote: Trying the map again…

    Nice map. So the Huron/Wyandot did not migrate into central Ohio until 1700-1800 according to this. Another piece to the puzzle. Thanks, Marc.

    #37380

    MarcSnelling
    Keymaster

    GGM_Robbins;38135 wrote: Forgive my ignorance, but why did they feel the necessity of hiding their French background?

    Ive asked the same question. I dont rightly know, but assume it has something to do with the conflicts of the time. Like the Seven Years War. The lines they married into were heavily British and Irish so maybe it was to fit in more. Maybe it was to hide from criminal charges? This line left well before the Lower Canada Rebellion. But on my wifes mothers side there were rebels who were imprisoned for their role in the rebellion. Some leaders were hanged. Today those ‘rebels’ are recognized as patriots by the Quebec Government and they celebrate National Patriots Day around the time Memorial Day is celebrated in the US. There is a long history of conflict between the English and French in Canada.

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