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July 5, 2001 at 12:32 pm #178Saponi 1Participant
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How astonishing. Is there any more info on this? What instigated this? 1622 was very early. This must have been a part of a larger attack on the settlement for so many people to have been killed. I wonder if these students weren’t in fact hostages. My guess off the top would be that the tribe(s) the student(hostages) belonged to came and got them and gave their “hosts” what they had coming for this and other offenses.July 5, 2001 at 12:32 pm #5225
Concerning the W&M rioting of 1622,this may have happened, but it sounds more like a fairy tale! Since there were only a few students that ever went to W&M during that time that were Indian, I highly doubt that this ever occured. If it did happen, I would be rather surprised. Sounds like another W&M story.
CoheeLadyJuly 5, 2001 at 12:32 pm #5226
More info. on W&M. The College of William & Mary was founded in 1693. Also the Town of Williamsburg was founded in 1699. So the Indian student riot, couldn’t have taken place, as the school didn’t exist in May of 1622! Nor have they ever had that many faculty members. There was an Indian School there for a short time, as it only was a token gesture, & there were only a few American Indians that attended. The post by Saponi, sited the information as written by Ben Domench. The College is at this time checking to see if this person is or was a student of W&M. The gentleman I spoke to at W&M, got a good laugh out of this one. He doesn’t understand why someone would say these things. Let’s just say that W&M is not happy about this lie that has been told. Saponi, I was wondering where did you find this story? Knowing now that this “Indian student riot” didn’t occur, you now can see the true intent behind the words of this man.
CoheeLadyJuly 5, 2001 at 12:32 pm #5227
I think you were perhaps hasty in your argument. The following quote is from the William and Mary website:
Interest in founding a college in Virginia was expressed as early as 1619, when the Virginia Company of London undertook to establish a “university” at Henrico on the James River about twelve miles below the present city of Richmond. The Indian uprising of 1622 and the revocation of the Virginia Company charter in 1624 caused this initial attempt to be abandoned.
It’s okay. We’re all just gleaning and sharing what we can, not competing over who’s right and who’s wrong.July 5, 2001 at 12:32 pm #5228
Oh yes! I believe there’s more documentation about this “riot” in the letters of the Virginia Land Company of London. I know there’s quite a bit about the uprising which led to the defeat of a number of the Powhatan tribes. They almost succeeded in pushing the English way back, but a “convert” snitched and spoiled the attack. I believe there was some mention of the students at the Indian school, but don’t quote me. 1622 is a long time ago for those nations to have lost political freedom. Our Siouan had another 50 years.July 5, 2001 at 12:32 pm #5229
I agree with you, as I for one am not competing, but sharing. I do however only believe in sharing something I know to be fact, as in the case of W&M. If I ever find that I have posted something that needs to be corrected, I will do so. If I have offended anyone, I am very sorry. We can all learn from one another. Thank you for the wonderful website, as I enjoy it.
CoheeLadyJuly 5, 2001 at 12:32 pm #5230
I am glad we’ve looked at this again. I’d love to see any more original source materials.
That was quite a day. In 1622 a lot of things that came to be assumed about Manifest Destiny were no way in place, the settlers were a precarious crew on the edge of a continent that was to them a “wilderness” and at that point, the extinction of a powerful group of Indian Nations had not yet become commonplace.
I think a story on this day told from the POV of one of the Indian students (whatever we decide to call the school) in that town could be incredibly fascinating — about intelligent, forward looking people realizing that the world as they knew it was about to come to an end, and doing what they could to prevent it.
I knew when I dropped that Virginia Land Company book into the library chute that I wasn’t done with it.
Thanks for finding this subject, Saponi 1. You submit so many great links, who knows how many treasures there are?July 5, 2001 at 12:32 pm #5231-cr21-Participant
1622 was the year that Opeccanough ..chief of the Pamunkey led the revolt on the colonists… those 300 or so people were killed by warriors..not students.
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