My Family Lore

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  • #1558

    Steve-o
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    Adkins: The Adkins branch is said to have Native American ancestry. The most famous story is that of Parker Adkins marrying Shawnee Chief Cornstalk’s daughter, Bluesky.

    The story goes that Parker had allowed the Shawnee to camp on his land and that he visited with them on occasion. Then as time progressed he wound up married to Cornstalk’s daughter Bluesky while he was married to a woman named Mary ? (no last name known).

    Bluesky is said to have eventually died and Parker took their child, Charity, to Mary and she raised her as her own.

    This got me to scratching my head. I know in those times it was common for the wife to be subserviant (sic) to a husband, but this story, to me, makes Mary ? out to be a fool. If the Shawnee did camp on Parker’s land, how could Parker have gotten away with marrying Bluesky without Mary ? eventually finding out, or a parent or sibling of hers?

    Sure she may have forgiven Parker and took Charity in and raised her as her own, but other variables begin to unravel.

    During my research into this story I have been contacted by a few Shawnee descendants who said that Mary ? was actually Bluesky, and that Mary was the English/Anglo name she took on.

    However there are a few armchair genealogists who disagree, including an author and many of his followers.

    Then I am still thrown by Parker Adkins grandmother Mitha ? (no last name). Researchers have placed her as being from England since Richard Parker, Mitha’s husband, came from there and settled in the Chickahominy swamplands of Virginia.

    Still the Shawnee descendants swear I am on the right track with Mary being Bluesky. Yet certain Adkins cousins who are from Charity’s line claim only she was Shawnee.

    I am also struck by how Parker could have married Bluesky so easily. Mary ? aside, could he have been Native American himself, or at least part way?

    In the graveyards in the Chickahominy tribal area are buried Chiefs named William, Little Barry, and Pocahontas Adkins.

    In Hanover County Virginia’s Vestry Book St. Paul’s Parish, Jan. 1706: William Adkinson is granted by Queen Cocacoeske of the Paumonkey tribe (King William County) to come to her tribe for medical treatment. This also states some reservation on the part of Wm. that he would suffer mis-treatment from the whites upon his return.

    The question here is why he would go in the first place since I am sure many whites would have rather died than asked for help from a Native tribe.

    The Adkins may have been of Chickahominy, Saponi, Lumbee, Blackfoot, etc. Then again they may not have at all. However there are many things that are slowly coming out of the woodwork that suggest they would have had some influence to Native tribes in the area if they were not connected to them in some way.

    More later…………..

    #15012

    Dreaminghawk
    Moderator

    Steve

    Welcome to the forum. We should always pay attention to these family stories. There is usually a grain of truth in them.

    You are definitely on to something here. Please check this page in the saponitown genealogy forum.

    http://www.saponitown.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1460&highlight=john+atkinson

    This is a cemetery in Person co, NC where an Atkinson descendent is buried beside a Pocahantas descendent. The connection in your family lore is proved 😉

    Ken

    #15016

    Steve-o
    Participant

    Very interesting and odd (perhaps in a good way).

    What I have, which is questionable, ancestors of my William Adkins(on) are Jonathan Adkins(on) & Elizabeth Bromwell, Jonathan’s parents: Thomas Adkins(on) Jr. & Agnes ?. Thomas Adkins(on) Jr.’s parents: Thomas Adkins(on) Sr. & Hester Fresure, Thomas Adkins(on) Sr.’s parents: Henry Adkins(on) & ? Edwards.

    However these are merely guesstimations for the forebears of William Adkins(on)/Atkinson. These are based soley on the most obvious parents of each due to age and location. Still this is not an list cast in stone.

    However, again I can see a name-pattern building here. LOL

    Thanks for the info, this could prove to be quite useful, regardless if it has anything to do with William or not.

    #15018

    Steve-o
    Participant

    Skaggs: This one is pretty much fact. Peter Skaggs married Martha Cohun, who was Cherokee. There is a town outside of Blaine Kentucky (Martha) named for her.

    The Skaggs were LongHunters, Henry Skaggs came across the Cumberland Gap with Daniel Boone. When he retired from the LongHunter way of life, he was said to be so uncivilized that he couldn’t even make bacon. Not in my direct line, but from the same family.

    The Skaggs lived in and near The Big Sandy region of Kentucky, and still do to this day. However they are found all over the United States. From what I gather a few left to go West, and never returned.

    The Fergusons in my line are said to possibly have Native ties as well. One married Wm. Hale (below)

    Hale: This is one of question, but a possibility.

    I can trace my lines back to my Gr. Gr. Gr. Grandparents, Vincent Hale and Jane Morgan, from the Wolf Creek/Franklin County Va. area.

    From there, there is nothing to be found. It appears as though they just sprung up from nowhere.

    What is interesting is that today I had some lumber and a stove to take to my mother’s house. While there she told me she was told that her Gr. Great Grandparents (she said it could have been one or the other, or both) were Indian. This could very well have been Vincent and Jane Morgan Hale. However she is uncertain as to what line of the family this pertained to.

    I have cousins in Texas who sent me a painting and some black and white photos of my, Vincent and Jane’s son, John Chapman Hale’s brother William Hale, and they bear a striking resemblance to Native American people, including his wife who was a Ferguson). My grandmother, Martha Hale, also looked very Native American.

    These cousins in Texas were told by their grandmother that she was from Native American descent. However nothing is known as to what tribe or anything further from there.

    Everyone who would know anything about any of the family lore is now deceased. My grandma had a Bible that had alot of information, possibly the information I need, yet this has turned up missing. Although someone in the family may still have it. We are unsure, but my mother states that this Bible had scads of family information in it.

    For the record, I am not a Wannabe, nor am I trying to get anything financially from the government or any Native American organization. None would do me any good anyway, I am not NA enough.

    The only thing NA about me and my family is dark complexion, and some facial features, however I am more Anglo than NA.

    All I am trying to do is piece together information that may prove my ancestral background. Knowing where I came from is ‘Good Enough’.

    I have questions, but am awaiting some replies from cousins in Indiana about a few things before I post them. The replies I get will help me determine what questions best to ask when I consider their responses. They do the ‘Leg-Work’ more than I do. I am a stay-at-home father of two, so my traveling is restricted to a degree.

    I am considered the ‘Detective’ by my cousins because of the things I find. Usually it leads to something…..

    All I can say is that my ‘Family Lore’ states we have Native American blood in the family. My job is to weed out what is false and bring out what is fact.

    Again just knowing is good enough for me. I am proud of my ancestors and since beginning research after the birth of my son in 2000, I know more now than most of my older family members know. Plus my mom gets a kick out of saying “I Told You…That’s what they said when I was a kid!!!!” when I find something out about the family and get the facts straight.

    This concludes my NA Family Lore, all the rest is British Isle based, Kings, Earls, Mad Irishmen…LOL). As I said before, it is all pretty much across the board.

    #15022

    techteach
    Moderator

    Steve-O,

    There are people who used to post to this board with Ferguson in their line who have the Blackfoot ID in their family. I gather that they understand them to be native also.

    Techteach

    #15031

    Linda
    Keymaster

    A few thoughts on your lore: if the ancestor who married Bluesky was Indian himself, the relatively casual approach to marriage would have been normal. In traditional cultures, there was a tight infrastructure to deal with marital breakups, kids belonged to momma’s clan, her brother had a more enduring custody claim than her husband, and divorce was not a big deal. Much like it is today, except for the lacking infrastructure to deal with the child support issues.

    AS for the making bacon story, maybe they meant he didn’t know how to cure his own bacon, as opposed to knowing how to fry it. The trip for medical treatment at the Pamunkey reservation is also interesting, and may indicate he had cultural/biological native ties

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