Proto-Dakotan Swadesh words #167-169: Apeeti/fire, Nanchotsi/ash, ashes, Andaxuthinga/to burn

Searching for Saponitown Forums Tutelo Language Revival Proto-Dakotan Swadesh words #167-169: Apeeti/fire, Nanchotsi/ash, ashes, Andaxuthinga/to burn

This topic contains 0 replies, has 1 voice, and was last updated by  MarcSnelling 3 weeks, 4 days ago.

Viewing 1 post (of 1 total)
  • Author
    Posts
  • #49431

    MarcSnelling
    Keymaster

    Proto-Dakotan Swadesh list word #167.
    *Apeeti, fire

    Many similar forms; the first syllable *A- survives in Ofo and Catawba. For the next syllable most agree on /Pee-/ or /P’ee-/ (/Phee-/), and for the last Ofo and Biloxi /-tii/ look to be more conservative than the rest, hence *Apeetii, fire.

    1 WOCCON /Yaw/
    2 CATAWBA /Impe/
    3 YESAN /Phech/
    4 OFO /Apheetii/
    5 BILOXI /Peetii/
    6 QUAPAW /Peete/
    7 OMAHA /Peedee/
    8 KAW /Peejee/
    9 OSAGE /Peedsee/
    10 HOCHAK /Peech/
    11 CHIWERE /Pheeje/
    12 MANDAN /Wara’/
    13 DAKOTA /Pheeta/
    14 NAKODA /Peeda/
    15 HIDATSA /Miidaha/
    16 CROW /Biila/

    Rankin’s reconstruction is *Hpete or *Wahpete “fire” from all the same ones, #2-11, 13-14.

    William Meuse

    Proto-Dakotan Swadesh list word #168.
    *Nanchotsi, ash, ashes.

    First syllable survives as /Niin-/, /Nii-/ (2x), /Ma-/, /A-/, /Un-/, /Ha-/, /E-/, indicating *Nan-.
    Second syllable appears as /-xo-/ (4x), /-chu-/, /-xu-/, /xii/, and by metasthesis, /Chaho/, /Tchanxo/, indicating *-cho-, *Nancho-.
    Last syllable is seen in /-fii/, /-sii/, /-tee/, /-dee/, /-jee/, /-dsee/, /-niin/, /-je/, /-ta/, /-da/, all likely to be from *-tsii, hence *Nanchotsii.

    1 WOCCON ?
    2 CATAWBA /Yeche/
    3 YESAN /Alapok/ < ?
    4 OFO /Echufii/
    5 BILOXI /Hayusii/
    6 QUAPAW /Niinxotee/
    7 OMAHA /Maxudee/
    8 KAW /Niixojee/
    9 OSAGE /Nii xodsee/
    10 HOCHAK /Unxiiniin/
    11 CHIWERE /Axoje/
    12 MANDAN ?
    13 DAKOTA /Tchanxota/
    14 NAKODA /Chahoda/
    15 HIDATSA /Miidatsapii/ =dust
    16 CROW ?

    Rankin gives no complete PS reconstruction, but connects #2, 4, 5 with Proto-Biloxi-Ofo *Ayusi “ashes”, and separately, #13 from *Tchaxota with 6-9, 11 incorporating *Xote “grey” .

    William Meuse

    Proto-Dakotan Swadesh list word #169.
    *Andaxuthinga, to burn.

    For some reason the list puts this one verb separate from the others, and ideally it should be the intransitive verb (to burn like a fire burns) and not the transitive verb (to burn something) — which is usually a slightly different verb in most languages other than English.

    All of the below words seem to be from *Andaxuthinga except for Catawba /Wren/
    /Atef/, /Ade/ in the east are related to /Adaxa/ /Alaxii/ in the north and /Iinee/, /Iide/, /Iindee/ in between, all from the form *Andaxe.

    /Teshiihii/, /Daxuro’sh/, /Daqohii/, /Taxu hii/, /Daxliin/, /Daxthiin/, all seem to be from *Daxuthii. Crow /Kahuriik/ also seems influenced by this.

    The *-dax- part is found in both *Andaxe and *Daxuthii so if we need evidence of a combined form like *Andaxuthii we find it in Yesan /Inausinga/, the last part /-inga/ also may be reflected in Nakoda /Xuxnaya/ so my hypothetical reconstruction is *Andaxuthinga. I have revised this several times while working on it this morning, a year ago my reconstruction (when I was doing them all rapidly to complete the list) was *Adachuree.

    1 WOCCON ?
    2 CATAWBA /Wren/
    3 YESAN /Iinausinga/
    4 OFO /Atef/, /Teshiihii/
    5 BILOXI /Ade/
    6 QUAPAW ?
    7 OMAHA /Iinee/
    8 KAW /Daxliin/
    9 OSAGE /Daxtiin/
    10 HOCHAK /Taxu hii/
    11 CHIWERE /Daqohii/
    12 MANDAN /Daxuro’sh/
    13 DAKOTA /Iidee/
    14 NAKODA /Iindee/, /Xuxnaxya
    15 HIDATSA /Adaxa/
    16 CROW /Alaxii/, /Kahuriik/

    Rankin has several reconstructions for “to burn” including *Are from #5, 7, 13, 14a; *Ran “to burn, prairie fire” from #2, 3; *Xure from #10, 11, 12; and *Wira which also mentions #2.

    William Meuse

Viewing 1 post (of 1 total)

The forum ‘Tutelo Language Revival’ is closed to new topics and replies.