questions on souian indians

Hi All:

Just a line to introduce myself. I am Kimberly and I am descended from Alexander Goins and Mary Polly Skidmore. I also descend from the Chaffin and Adkins families. I have done some exchanging of information with Al (manumuskin). I am particularly interested in the Melungeon/Native American descendancy which is why I registered to this wonderfully interesting forum, referred to me by Al and others sharing my lineage.

So, hopefully I’ll be able to nail down, at some point who the parents of Alex Goins were.

Keep up the great work and regards from Pennsylvania!

Kimberly,

I do not have Goins in my line (that I know of anyway), but I do have Adkin’s from VA & KY. Also, my father’s step-father was a Bragg and I believe the Skidmore’s were associated with that family. I have a picture of my father and Skidmore and Bragg cousins is written on the back. Jack Goins site is probably your best bet for Goins family information. However, if you post names and dates of those you are looking for, Bil here is very good at digging up information.

Shirley

Hi Shirley:

My Adkins line starts at John Adkins born 1775 married to Nancy McCracken born 1780, Washington County, VA. She died in Lawrence Co., KY between 1780-85. There children are Judith, born 1805, Sarah born 1797, Rachel born, Feb. 9, 1804, John W. born 1808, Thomas Triber born Mar. 26, 1811, Permelia born 1814. I have a Jesse Adkins as Father to John Adkins, Sr. Mother unknown.

My direct line is through Judith Adkins who married James Chaffin, born 1797, VA, their children were Kenas, born Dec. 2, 1837 my ancestor, John William and George Washington Chaffin.

So, at least, you know where I fall into the family picture.

Warm regards,

Kimberly

Kimberly,

You will have to thank Rockhound for the Goins web link. I am not sure if our Adkins are connected, see if any names are familiar. Here is what I have that Bill found for me. By the way if you want some look ups on family post names and dates on the Genealogy forum, Bill does a wonderfully thorough job.

Shirley

1860 Buchanan Co., Va Census; 27 July; P.O: Grundy; p.36; Family 230: (birth state is blank, but later census show VA except for Squire born in Ky)

Squire ADKINS, 42, m, – ; farmer; $0, $45

Mary……………, 44, f, – ,

James…………., 21, m, –

Nancy…………., 18, f, –

CELIE…………., 16, f, – *******

Jane ANDERSON, 69, f, –

Elizabeth……….., 24, f, –

Squire Adkins son of James W. Adkins, b.abt. 1785 Giles Co., Va, d. abt. 1870 Pike Co., Ky, and Nancy Agness Bishop, b.abt. 1795 Giles Co., Va, d.abt. 1870 (?) Pike Co., Ky.

1900 Buchanan Co., Va Census; ED8 Grundy Mag Dist;

Sheet 17A, 26 June;

family 290:

ADKINS, Squire; Day Laborer; Jan 1817, 83, Wid’d; Va, Va, Va.

……….., Nancy; Sister; Oct 1849, 50, sgl, 2 childr.,1 living; Va, Va

……….., Miles G; Nephew; May 1886, 14, Va, Va, Va.

Sheet 17B, 27 June; family 294:

ADKINS, James; farmer, Mar 1843, 57, m’d 20, Va, Va, Va.

……….., Rebecca; wife, May 1851?, 49, m’d 20, 2/2, Va, Va, Va

+ 2 dau’s, Millie, 17; and Emaline, 13.

family 295:

THOMAS, Harison; farmer, Jan 1865, 35, sgl, Va, Va, Va.

family 296:

ADKINS, Mary; Head, Apr 1864, 34, Wid’d, 4/4, Va, Va, Va.

……….., Sophy, dau, May 1893, 7, Va, Va, Va.

……….., Wm L., son, Oct 1894, 5, Va, Va, Va.

……….., Armilda, dau, May 1897, 3, Va, Va, Va.

……….., Mary J., dau, Apr 1899, 1, Va, Va, Va.

I have all the same ancestry you mention. I am also (along with several others ) working on the Alexander Goins parents. You posted this a long time ago . . . have you made any progress? My line comes from the family of Mary Missouri Goins,who later married James Holly. I am related to the Chaffins through both the Shorts and the Goins families.

I am also a descendant of Judith Adkins and James Chaffin through their daughter Martha, who was my g-grandmother. Her youngest son was my grandfather. Do you think all these families tried to cover-up any Native American ancestry — my branch sure was quick to label others with this and deny it for themselves.

Okay, now your picking on alcoholics! I stopped drinking but am still an alcoholic, and you are right!

wait a minute so who did what again…….you might want to take another look there gray wolf..”racism by the republican party and the church. ” well we’re all born raciests which is just narsismism then all wrapped up in just plain ol hateful.. and no one had to teach you that! 3 years olds up to gang bangers .. pull it off just fine, and no one has to teach it to them ! ROTF

also somethings to consider to those of us that have ancestors that might appear to be raciest towards indians or seemed to denied their indian side..

it took me awhile to figure out what I had suspected when little from both my great grandma’s that they were ashamed of their indian-ness . but now I understand neither were at all upset with that part in anyway . they just were hidding somethings and hiding from other things and it took years to figure out just what they were so discussed about. .. when in fact they both were just hiding being cherokee not hidding being indians . and plainly disgusted or maybe even afraid about that only . that is what they were both discussed with and why their relations lived in choctaw territory and in AR and MO and IN and Ky and etc …… anyplace but cherokee territory.. it seems it was the whole ugly affair that went on from 1800 through the dawes rolls.

anyway the old ones who had any kind of collective memories of events in those years hated all of it and were very discussed with the whole affair.

so you need to try and figure out why they said things they said.. and if you were reading reaction to any situation wrong when you were young?

so everyone must analyze what their ancestors really said and why they said it that way.

hope that helps you all!

and gray wolf you can look a whole lot close to the source of all that racism and hatred ok ..really we all do ! “because love thy neighbor as thy self ” don’t come natural at all!