April 5, 2004 at 7:47 pm #26592
Greywolf, Tom’s got the right idea about the tea. When I had a large garden I used one of the Large Trash cans with a locking lid. Packed an old man’s sock full of compost,humus, and manure and dropped it in the bottom. Every week I watered the plants with this after using a discarded rake or hoe handle to stir it. The round end of the handle did not tear the sock or bag. Then I filled it back up with water until the next week. Stirred and fed them again, had a wonderful and healthy garden. EDApril 5, 2004 at 7:47 pm #26594
Becky, we always planted Kentucky Wander Pole beans in some of the corn and sometimes staked and strung them in their own row. Hard to beat for flavor. The snapbeans the Bowling family had would have come with the family out of Person county and I have no idea beyond that point but the family had saved the seed for generations. The snapbeans were not large but hung on the vines as thick as your fingers together. They had to be strung but the flavor was fantastic. We used to plant Indian corn and pulled it before color came to the kernals, sort of a roasting ear stage. We boiled it as corn on the cob and it was really good. Remember Indian corn has a small cob and large kernals and it will cook up a little dark. Same with Calico or Colored butter beans. We picked them before any color showed in a smaller stage and still not hard to shell. Even without the color they cook up dark but oh the flavor to both beans and juice. EDApril 5, 2004 at 7:47 pm #26595
I never thought of using eggshells in the garden, I’ll have to give that a try.
I almost went to the store to buy fertilizer, then I remembered I still had a few shad left in the freezer from last years run. Since this year’s run up the Columbia river is just starting up, I buried the old fish in the garden with the notion of them turning into fertilizer before the neighbor’s dog digs them up. Anyone ever used shad, or any fish, as fertilizer before?
And I also hate grass, I forgot to water part of the lawn last year and killed it, so I’m turning it into a native desert plant garden.April 5, 2004 at 7:47 pm #26598
Ok, so I guess we can start spreading the rabbit balls around….LOL.
My mom was fussing about the flea bugs on her beans last night and I told her what Tom said…and offered to save her some coffee grounds. Would coffee sprayed directly on the plants be just as good??
Thanks, Ed, for the heads up on the corn. I mainly wanted to grow it for drying and for the rabbit, plus maybe some stringing. I once saw a necklace made out of nothing but corn kernels and thought it rather unique.
Tanya, I use the eggshells (plus the water they were boiled in) around my irises or anything that needs extra calcium. Oh, and remember that NA folks planted a fish in the hole where they planted the three sisters…that’s how they taught the Europeans to grow better crops. I actually thought about that when we were planting our hills around the circle. But, not having the access to the fish….hoped that the coffee and rabbit shtuff will do the trick. So far it seems to be working with the coffee…everything is up and growing and our tomatoes are fairing better than Mom’s. 😀April 5, 2004 at 7:47 pm #26607
Have any of you southern gardener types grown whippoorwill peas? Sort of field peas, I guess. They are mighty tasty. I never saw them from a commercial source, but was on occasion the guest of some folks in Smithville TN who grew them as an heirloom garden item. Just Googled them, out of curiosity, and there are a few sources.April 5, 2004 at 7:47 pm #26608
if you want 2 know more about corn…look up the state of nebraska…it is the corn state!!April 5, 2004 at 7:47 pm #26609
Well I am not sure about coffee being sprayed directly on to the plants but I’d give a go, sounds like it might work.
Some of these old varieties of beans etc may be still around I’d ask back where some of those people came from, you never know you just might preserve something that has never “bean” seen.
I like the method of using the corn pulling it before the color sets in, that sounds so much like a related Green Corn ceremony “facility”, if I can use that word here.
There are some really good sources of hierloom seed on the web and well worth checking out.
I live in the southern part of Canada and on the Northertn Plains, I have tried with great success to grow crops that were developed here, and what a great surprize to grow “trail of tears” corn AKA “white eagle” corn that went up to near 12 feet, although green when I pulled it, the long cobs were over 15 inches and tasted like baby corn from Chinese food.
Is anyone growing gourds for rattles , bird houses etc?April 5, 2004 at 7:47 pm #26621
I thought everyone might enjoy these cute kids gardening though American Indian Youth Running Strong gardening programs. There are many gardening pics and some with corn. (This photo is from the Cheyenne River Youth Garden):April 5, 2004 at 7:47 pm #26623
Oh Tom, you are making me hungry for some of your corn! LOLApril 5, 2004 at 7:47 pm #26648
Tom, we are growing gourds. We are going to run them up the fence and let them hang over it…and hopefully, we will have plenty for birdhouses and rattles, since it was mixed seed. Ken has some dried ones that he grew many years ago. A couple are birdhouse, some are rattle, and we have one that will make a great dipper.
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