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Dreaminghawk;37120 wrote: Heya Joe. Welcome to Saponitown. My guess would be many different related drops.
The deeper I researched my families, the more mixed bloods I found. Vitually every line on my mother’s side and every line on my father’s side have been mixed bloods marrying mixed bloods for 400 years. It boggles the mind until you realize that colonial VA laws gave known mixed bloods no option but to marry mixed or black. This is a good thing, though, because it kept the ndn blood strong.
Again, welcome home.
It has been said that everybody is surely born somewhere or have realitives from some where but those with divine providence have ancestry from Virginia. Just a little ancestry humor here.
Thanks for the comment. The real given item was the location of most of my older generations were from the appalachian mountains and some Willis family from Amherst. The Appliacian mountain realtives had alot of free person of color notations in the census, so it all fit in. Also varified by the Arkansas and Missouri Cherokee tribe researchers. If you have any ancestors from Amherst Va. they could be Buffaloe Ridge as a few of mine were. Strange enough we also had French,Irish,and Spain relaitives that took Indian wives or husbands. The mothers side of the family was the deer Clan so that is the side they base everything on. I am a disabled man age 58 with COPD from the military and when I found this info I was able to verify American Indian ancestry and finally got my Medical (Medicaid) benefits where as I could not before. It was such a relief for me. As soon as I reapplied for benefits for Native American, I had benefits in 1 week.
Linda;37061 wrote: I thought that you had to be enrolled in order to get any benefits like that. Were you able to enroll?
As strange as it sounds, under the new Obama required insurance for all, they are honoring a verbal admisssion of heritage and given insurance. I keep records of absolute proof for a backup if ever required to validate such as records/DNA
Basically any person could get a state approved tribe to say about hertage if that was required,but the issue is the federal government does not have the time to research all records. I was asked, was I 100% sure of hertiage/ancestry. I can tell them that the Cherokees of Arkansas and Missouri/ Amonsoquath researchers varified the results. The whole point was verification, not Federal recognition, Medicaid is apporved by each state now, not a Federal issue unless asked to see your research. When Obama said we had to be insured, it became real easy.
Please be aware that those with zero income as I was or those awaiting disability decision by the courts will pay zero. If you have some income you would get discounted or zero premiuns depending on how large the income, but this would be fair, I think. It is designed to be Independent living insurance for minority groups or financially disadvantaged also. Almost works like Medicare but cheaper.
Linda;37066 wrote: So, if I had too much income to qualify for the zero payment policy, but I claimed minority status, I would be able to get the free coverage?
Everyone was suppose to file in the insurance market place website for insurance under the new healthcare rules. If you were to fill out regular medicaid paperwork and check American Indian status then it should be free under the new rules and without question we qualify. I dont Know for sure that a super high dollar income could possibly affect this, and this is not a fact and I really dont know if they would do this. I really just claim Cherokee and was never questioned again. Someone needs to try this and see if they get the same results that I did. What I am told is no charge for all indigenous peoples period. Anyone filing for insurance on the new market place as Indian should automatically get these benefits free. So I guess that would be true. Someone should do this as I did and see if we are on to something. The program is Health Care Independence Program and most states do this, a few dont. See website for this program.
Still going to do more research for you
we have some of these name in common. will send u my info to see if helpful, later today
Captain Anthony Savage came from England born 1605 Glouchester and married Sarah Constable. Sister was Ann Constable wife of Richard Hancock and his brothers,Tuscaroran ancestry. Capt. Savage Mother was Alice Savage b)1653 in Virginia and Father was Colonel Francis Thornton b) 1651 Fall Hill Stafford Va. Parents of Francis Thornton were Francis Jr 1681 Va-1736 d) Snow Creek Va. wife was MaryTaliferro from Powhatten Plantation Va, 1684, a Powhatten Indian ancestry. Mary Taliferro was kin to the Charles teliferro 1663 Essex Va and Sallie Burroughs and 2n wife Diaidia Tucker. Charles father was Capt John Taliferro II 1633 Caroline Co Va. and Mary Hardin. This family line was related to Hancock of Southern Tuscarora line who was defeated by Tom Blunt the Northern Tuscarora Chief who sought peace with Jamestown Colony. The colony had kidnapped Hancocks people and attempted to enslave them so this was answered by killing the colonist and the The Tuscaroran War. Hancock was married into the Powhattan family line of Great Powhatten Nemattano Don Luis De Velasco Japasaw which was a Spanish servant from Madrid that Chief Wahanganoche Powhatten brought to the Virginia as a personal servant and he interwed with Powhatten/Iroquois. As far as I know the most famous Cherokee was Amonosquath and she married Wahanganoche and had Pochonatas which John Rolfe married. There is several family lines from Chief hancock brothers but he died at war. The most early of this family line is FirstAmerican Powhatten. The Bradleys, Alexanders, Meese,and Ashton as well as Thornton, Bennett,Blunt, gibson and Jacobs will be tied into intermarriage with the Powhatten/Tuscaroras through Mary Arroyah and many other children of Wahanganoche. He had about 100 children with many wives. All of the above named families started as English, Irish, or French and intermarried until very little was left but American Indian.
Almost forgot to add that the Savage as well as Blunt families came to America and split with a brother going north into Ct. and NY and one went south to Va and Md area. In this way these family doubled their chances of finding survival in a new place.
I have these Bradleys for you Mehitable Bradley female1747 Beverly Ma married William Wingate b) 1745 in Amesbury Ma. from the Wingate/James Lloyd ancestry. Next was Joesph Bradley 1720 New Haven Ct and his brothers and next Stephen Bradley 1696 IN New Haven Ct. and Jemina Cornwall 1699 Ct. maybe this will get you help
DStrait;36911 wrote: Has anybody ever considered forming a new Saponi tribe? It seems so many of us are without a home. We know who we are, but are lacking community among ourselves. Some of us are kept out of tribes because they want to limit who is enrolling, even though many qualify for enrollment. Also has anybody tried this before? It would be nice to have a Saponi settlement, where we all can be together. Any way I just thought I would run this by every one and see what everybody thinks.
That is a reasonable thing as far as I see. The State only approved tribes are using a professional genalogist to reverify the submitted family tree for accuracy and this is working good I feel. If the data is in question then the applicant must submit more info and probally is nor so bad. The Federally recognized tribes make you have a Indian relative in the first three generations and if not you get rejected. A Lakota friend of my had to Take the Lakotas to court with a lawyer and she was 100% Lakota, and not white at all, Both parents Lakota. She was adopted and raised white when Lakota dad died. With court records of adoption she still had to go to court. Now what I really want to say here is that, If I were for example a member of the Federally recognized Catawba tribe, I would have a home and community but that is it. Unless a tribe has a business activity of casinos or hand made art or etc you still cannot recieve any financial benefit. The government gives us nothing but will help start a tribal business to support our people. I have a Tribal Medicare card myself and only claimed ethnic group on my app. The only thing that Federal tribes recieve different is Discount housing and shared casino profits, but I have to question whether or not this helps or ruins a nation. This is what I want to hear from somone about. Does gambling money become OK if it helps/supports American Indians and is it worth it. I feel we are no longer a proud people at this point. Rest assured that all the Federal benefits are no different than what the poor welfare receipents of the US already are recieving.
DStrait;36862 wrote: Hello! I just wanted to see if there are any other Eastern Siouan people who might also currently live in Northern California? I currently live in Mokelumne Hill, CA. It is located in Calaveras county and was a old Gold Rush town. I decend from the Evans and Collins line. My family carried the “Blackfoot” identity. It would great to find other Native people here from the same background. I think we all need to start coming together as a people, even though some of us are miles away from our ancestrial home lands.
Hello, I noticed the words Gold Rush and had to share what I found out. If you log into the Deer Clan Cherokee info site they have an article that shows cool stuff. The Gold Rush drew alot of mixed blood Indian/other race people to the West in search for getting rich. My people ran out of money and food in the Missouri/Arkansas regions and settled on what was then the Louisiana Purchase lands. These were peoples that had claimed to be white to escape the great roundup to oklahoma. The whole beauty of this was that they still settled on the area they were trying to avoid, with a few of them actually making it to California. These were called the Deer Clan.
I wanted to say hello and wanted this community to know that I will be able to help ancestry search since I am retired with plenty of time. I have dedicated about 10 years research to my own family and have traced back to 40AD.I enjoy ancestry and enjoy helping others for free.April 18, 2011 at 5:25 pm in reply to: Norton's diary, A John Walker, maybe one of the mysterious Lunenburg CO,VA cher-link #36343
My family Grand dad forward is Walker. I was tied up on this search until I found a group of Walkers in Wayne County Georgia that Died near 1880 of Consumption and many brothers died and all children distributed to other Walker families in Both Ga. and N.C. George Washington walker and Nancy McDonald (Cherokee) from Spring Place Ga. raised my GDad from 1880 until adult. He was Franklin and lived with His parents from 1868 to 1880. father was John and mother Sidney Jacobs. Also Keziah walker female name was Seminole interwed into Walker. This is what I have execpt for Lots of walkers in Colleton S.C. and all around Catawba reservation at Ayor S.C. Also Fairfield S.C. was many Walkers and Wolf Pit N.C.