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When asked why they attacked the Meherrin, the Saponi chief stated that a white man told him the Meherrin and Tuscarora were one and the same. Virginia colonial records.
Meherrin men were on the Tuscarora council, like Nick Major. Meherrin did go north with the few Tuscarora that did establish the Sixth Nation.
King mentioned in records
John King, Indian for Indian rights to hunt on lands abt. 1695
Robin King a Meherrin great man in 1726
Son kidnapped by Saponi, killed 12, taking revenge on Tuscarora
Wat King on Tuscarora lease
Thomas King with William Cope Indians jurors for John Cope trial, a Christian Blount’s town Indian.
I am a Meherrin King descendant traced back to Michael King from Norwich and his wife Elizabeth Carey or Hare. Chief Brown stated that Michael King and Elizabeth Ferguson were Meherrin, my 6th great grandparents. I have been researching the Meherrin and putting together a historical overview for the tribe as well as an expanded timeline, for the last three years. Just about everyone in the modern tribe is a King descendant.
My research summary of Susannah Bunch.
Gibson connections to my family. All mentioned in this blog are my family.
My thoughts as to the wife of Paul Bunch being a GibsonOctober 20, 2021 at 10:23 pm in reply to: Rogers/Rodgers Family (VA->TN->and beyond!) Nansemond? Nottoway ? GOINS and GIBSON #66568
Recent discovery is that my wife is a descendant of Mihil Goins. She is cousins with the lady that wrote the book 1619 20 and Odd through the Easley that are Goins kin.
John M. Easley born abt 1745 married Ann Gowan/Goin born about 1750
Ann Nancy Easley born about 1776 married Thomas Barton
Rebecca Barton married James S. Grogan
Caroline Grogan married John Clark
Rosa Clark married John William Massey
John Floyd Massey married Delpha Yarborough
Cheryl Massey is my mother-in-law
These Massey descend from Indian trader William Pettypool who named Indian wife in his will. They also descend from Makey Whitefeather Hawkins who is related to Suni Su Song both married longhunter Harrellsons. My wife and I share cousins that are members of the Pee Dee tribe in Latta, SC
The Meherrin canceled another pow wow and did not do a virtual one either.
My Bunch cousin in Indiana said the Riddle from the tory went to Indiana with his Bunch and there is a Riddle Cemetery there where he lives.
About stinkin time! I got tired of talking to myself.June 27, 2020 at 3:02 am in reply to: Rogers/Rodgers Family (VA->TN->and beyond!) Nansemond? Nottoway ? GOINS and GIBSON #66228
I know this is an old thread but, Capt. Rogers was a Great man of the Meherrin that stated his sister’s family lived with the Nottoway.
At a Council held at the Council Chamber in Edenton the 27th day of October Anno Dom 1726
Whereupon by the consent of both parties It is ordered in Council That the Surveyr Genl or his Deputy do lay out unto the said Indians a certain parcell of Land lying between Maherrin River and Blackwater River Running three miles up Blackwater River and then a Straight Line to such a part of Maherrin River as shall be Two miles from the mouth thoreof and if the same line shall leave out the settlement of Capt Roger a Maherrin Indian that then the Surveyr Genl do lay out a Tract of 150 acres the most convenient to his Dwelling Which Land when Surveyed the surveyr is to make return thereof into the Sectys Office that Grants may pass for the same to the said Indians It is further Ordered by this Board that the sd Indians shall Quietly hold the sd Lands”
“………and this morning I have had a Conference with all their great Men upon the Subject of your Letter. They all in General utterly deny that they have any quarrel with the Nottoway Indians or ever Suspected them of having any hand in the Attack that was lately made upon their Nation & Capt Roger who is their Chief man says that he has no doubt of the Nottoways Friendship having his Mothers Sister and several of her Children grown up now living with these people. They lay the whole blame upon the old Occoneechy King & the Saponie Indians who as they are your Tributaries they ask Justice from you on the offenders. They had Twelve persons Killed and a Boy belonging to one of their Great Men named Robin King taken Prisoner who they [desire] may be restored to them and the like number of Sapponies as they have lost delivered to them to be put to Death,
I guess that means we are cousins. I’ve never heard of Drybread. My father’s sidw has Bunch, Cotton, and a couple othhers you list fof your grandpa. Kitchen, Cotton, Bunch, etc. Csn be found with the Tuscarora groups.
My mother’s kit is M523845 and shows NA. Been trying to figure her Na out and now she has a match with my wife’s kit, M318110, my wife is Cherokee and Cheraw
MarcSnelling;39199 wrote: I notice your mother and wife also match my cousin on the Drybread line (A303017). Where she has the 5.7cM match to you on chromosome 2 she has a 6.2cM match to your mother. She does not descend from the same Cotton-Kitchen line though (to the best of my knowledge – I don’t know the parts of her tree we don’t share). Our common ancestors are Seneca Drybread 1869-1906 and Lizzie Nay 1873-1938 (2nd cousin once removed to me.) Your wife has a different 6.9cM match to her on chromosome 15.
My mother and uncle have the same 5.2cM match to your wife on chromosome 11. Those are the only matches I see from her to my family group at normal settings.
Your mother also has a 5.7 match to M871780 – Seeker – here on SaponiTown. We strongly suspect we are cousins to her through the Harrell line I mentioned above, and have posted about in other threads.
My mother also shows a 7.4cM X chromosome match to your mother. Since X is not passed on any line with two consecutive male ancestors – this match cannot be through the Drybread line itself. It seems to point to my Drybread grandfather’s mother – Maud Marshall 1897-1919 – she is the direct descendant of the Cotton, Kitchen, Harrell lines I mentioned.
This is pretty cool. My wife is Cherokee and Cheraw and at first suspected mom to be Cherokee, but leaning harder toward the Saponi. But with a Marshal in play, it could go either way after seeing the extent of the Marshall family tree.
My Cotton on dad’s side were with the Benton, Epaphroditus and children. Our “founding father” that reorganized the Southern Band Tuscarora was a Cotton and i believe my cousin. I Have some Harrell connections too. All this in Chowan, Gates, Bertie area. There was a large group of mix Saponi and Tuscarora that migrated to Ohio and Indiana. Many of their descendants formed the Lost Creek Settlement. Is this some of your group?
The Lost Creek genealogy can be found at http://www.lost-creek.org/genealogy/surnames.php and has many cousin connections to Saponi and Tuscarora in NC.
I am related to many connections on the English side to the Pocahontus descendants but unaware of a connection by blood to her, but have suspicions. I had a group tell me I shared a segment wth them on ch 2 that was identified as Chickahominy though.
Is Drybread a Saponi name?