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My name is Stephanie Motley. My sister, Sonya Williams and I are researching the Indian lineage of our family line. We do not have much information.
Our family name is Williams but is to believed to have been Carrington prior to our GGrandfather moving to Clover, VA.
Mother – Flossie Williams 8/28/40 – many brother and sisters: Paul, William, Nathan, Barbara, Lenora, there are 5 or 6 more but no names yet.
Grandparents – Paul James Williams – White/Indian and Henreitta Brown Williams – Blackfoot/Black
GGrandparents – Paul Hannah Williams – White (possibly Irish)/Indian (tribe unknown) and Julia Anne Williams – Black
If anyone recognizes these names and/or has any information concerning them please respond. Your help would be greatly appreciated.
Yes there are and were Carringtons in Clover. My cousins dad was a Carrington. His dads brother was named William Carrington. Unfortunately he passed on about 2 years ago. Do you have any names to share or possibilities.
I am Clover Virginia Of Halifax County.
The Carringtons, Ferrells(Farrells) Fosters, Collins,Cousins, Wilborns, Lack, Pleasants, Browns, Palmers, Greens, Gundy, Coleman, Rice , Garrett, Grenin, Moss, Scott, Jones , Mortin or Morton are all surnames of that area. My grandmother is 84 years old and one of the oldest family members left in that area. All the rest have died. But, nana does know the Carrington line pretty well. If it is the same people.
I need a little more info. Or I will just ask about the Carrington line and get back to you.
I will speak with her on the weekend.
From what I have been told, Paul Hannah Williams changed his last name from Carrington to Williams when he moved to Clover.
I am trying to verify this through other family members.
You mentioned the Browns of Clover. Paul Hannah Wms son, Paul James Wms married Henrietta Brown, her parents Samuel and Belle Hargrove Brown.
I hope you are able to find something out over the weekend. It seems my family does not remember too much. Thank you for your help.
Hi, My grandmother does not know any Motleys. However, she did say, there are alot of “Browns” in the area. Too many names. One could go on and on. They go from Clover to a place we call Mount Laurel.
Beverly Brown, Earl Brown, Harold Brown, Frank Brown, Thelma Brown, Betty Brown, Katherine Brown. Josephine and Othella Brown, Victor Brown. Parents of Most listed were Mariah Green -maiden name. She married a Brown and also a Pleasant. Married twice.
There are also Carringtons-She knew an Abe/Abner Carrington who married a Rosa Coleman. Their children: Will, Charlie, Ernest and Johnny. There was also a Berkley Carrington.
I told her to write down what else she can remember. Sorry I could not be of more assistance. Perhaps calling for a Clover phone book. It is small. The zip is 45434. for Clover.
Anyway take care for now.
Sorry it has taken me so long to reply.
Bill Childs has posted a reply under “The Other Blackfoot” that matches information that I have and may of help when you visit you grandmother again. Below is additional information about the children of Paul H Williams and Julia Anne Harris.
Susan – b.1868
Belle – b.1870
Ailis – b.1873
Anne -b.1875
Paul James b. -1881
Allen – b.1884
Florence – b.1887
Walter – b.1891
I would like to know if your grandmother can remember anything about the Carringtons that had the slaves Paul H Williams and Julia Anne Harris, my ggrandfather and mother. The family states that Julia always maintained that she was a Carrington, not a Williams, that her father was the slave owner Carrington, no one remembers his first name. Looking at the info that Mr Childs has it could be true because she is listed as a mulatto.
As stated earlier, family members also believed that Paul was of mixed blood too. Is it possible the census could have been wrong? They insist that there is Blackfoot in the bloodlines. I am trying to see if i can dig up some old pictures.
As always your help is greatly appreciated.
Stephanie,
Census record identification of race is very subjective and therefore “uncertain” at best.
In 1870 Halifax Co., Roanoke Twp, p.659A, Paul H., 21, and Julia Williams, 22, with daughter Susan, 2, lived next door to Rebecca Williams, 19, and the next house was Archer Williams, 31, and wife Cornelia, 25.
Three houses after Archer lived Benjamin Carrington, 65 and wife Lucinda, 55. The census taker’s name was J.M. Carrington 🙂
Do you have that census info?
Bill
No, I do not have that census information, thanks.
I was told that the daughter Susan later moved to Halifax. She died leaving children behind, Paul and Julia then moved to Halifax to raise her children. I believe that is who Jessie , Mary and Andrew are.
I live in Hampton, VA. Does anyone know how far Halifax is from here? I was thinking about going there to look at the records or should I be going to Charolette, VA to look at history beyond Paul and Julia since that is where they came from? I am not sure where to go from here. I would be looking for census prior to 1891.
Should I be looking for their name as Carrington at this point since I was told that Paul’s last name was Carrington prior to moving to Clover? What records would indicate that?
And last but not least, do you think these lines lead to Native American bloodlines? I am beginning to think not. Although Julia as well as her children were listed as Mulatoo I am not sure whether that would indicated Native American blood lines especially since the later generations were given Negro as their race. Will this be harder to do since they were considered Negroes?
Stephanie,
I can give you census info for 1850, 1860, 1870 & 1880. The 1890 census was destroyed in a warehouse fire so doesn’t exist.
Some of the other kinds of records are online, some in the Univ of Virginia, etc. I wouldn’t recommend taking a trip until all online sources are exhausted. Digging around in courthouse records usually ISN’T a one day job.
Even in 1870, Paul & Julia were WILLIAMS, so it doesn’t look beneficial to look for them as Carringtons unless we don’t find them for a particular year as Williams. The story about him using Carrington may very well be true, but if he did, it isn’t reflected in census records, but they were only taken every ten years and a lot happens inbetween.
Julia was a HARRIS? There are Harris’s in that general area of southern Virginia who are Indian. I’ll see what I can find on her.
Between the 1880s and 1920s especially, anyone not obviously ‘white’ usually was listed as ‘black’ or ‘negro’ on census records, particularly in the south – census takers weren’t anthropologists – so this is such a very subjective thing that you can’t count on it being accurate.
Bill
Thank you Bill. Any help is greatly appreciated. I am new at this and don’t know where or how to look online. Till now it has been hit or miss.
I fly to Richmond. I take 360 west to Clover. I drive towards downtown Richmond. You will know when you cross over the Manchester bridge that you are going in the right direction.
Perhaps there are other ways this is the way I go. There is also another way if you are going to fly I will tell you. I never get lost.
In terms of Hampton I believe you have to get on 95 and get over to 64. It will take you down towards the Virginia Beach/Hampton/ Norfolk area.
Hello
I descend from the family of Capt Daniel Motley of Pittsylvania county VA. and the family of Williams Williams and Judith Saunders.
While researching these families I found that a Williams did marry a Carrington in NC, but will have to re-trace my steps a bit to find that information again. I think It was The Elanore Neeley and a Carrington.
Anyway I too wish to learn more about my
Native American Blood lines.
My Gr-Gr-Great Gramdmother was Mary Willaims married to Matthew Pryor Jr.
Old family stories say Capt Daniel Motley’s wife Sarey Pain was an Occaneechi-Saponi
but I haven’t been able to prove that.
Good luck with your search.
I’ll look again for that Carrington marriage.
Richard
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