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Hello. I am new to this forum. I am trying to find information on my Jones family, especially looking for Harvey and Martha’s parents. I hope my Jones family links up with someone here, as some of the surnames that they married into are listed on your forum. Oral histories from relatives in Ohio say they were told Cherokee, the ones in Indiana were told Miami, while others in both places deny any Native American lineage. I don’t know which , if any, to believe.
Herbert Leander “Harvey” JONES and Martha ROSSER are my 3rd Great-Grandparents. Even though they were obviously “together” before, they were married November 23, 1841 in Greene County, Ohio. Their marriage record says “Their (or Her – its hard to read) ages proven by the oath of Winfield STUDEVANT/STURDIVANT”. Based on their children’s birthdates they moved from Virginia to Ohio sometime between 1839 – 1841.
Harvey was born 1812 in Petersburg, Virginia and died 1899 in Miami County, Ohio. Martha was born 1815 in Virginia and died 1901 in Miami County, Ohio. They are both buried in Newson Chapel Cemetery in Champaign County, Ohio.
My grandma had a “criptic” 🙂 note written in her journal that said: “Alexandria Jones. 4 brothers – Union Army. Virginia plantation. Greene County, Ohio”. I assume they worked on the plantation and didn’t own it. The 4 brothers that served during the Civil War are John, William, Benjamin, and James. I have received 2 of the 4 pension packets and they were both listed as dark complexion, dark hair, one was 5′ 7″ with blue eyes, and one was 5′ 9″ with dark eyes. I also have a couple of pictures of Alexander, my Great-Great-Grandfather.
Harvey and Martha had 11 children. The ones that I know for sure are:
David; b. ABT 1833 in Virginia; married Anna Margaret CORDELL, daughter of Carter CORDELL and Martha UNKNOWN
John; b. 1837 in (Petersburg or Roanoke County – both places were listed in his military papers) Virginia; married Susan Caroline DAY, daughter of Dudley DAY and Mary Ann JEFFERYS
William Braderick; b. 1838 in Parkersburg, (West) Virginia; married Mary Jane GUY, daughter of Thomas GUY and Adaline BURNETT, granddaughter of Vines GUY and Elizabeth JEFFRIES
Benjamin F.; b. 1844 in Greene County, Ohio; married Julia ALDRIDGE
Alexander(ia); b. 1846 in Greene County, Ohio; married Phoebe Jane HOLDERMAN and Martha Jane DEARTH
James E.; b. 1848 in Greene County, Ohio; married Viola ROBINSON
Harvey Leander; b. 1855 in Greene County, Ohio; married Mary “Martha” FORD and Alice UNKNOWN
Virginia “Jennie”; b. 1857 in Ohio; did not marry
Emma; b. 1862 in Ohio; married Elza BEATY, son of Elias BEATY and Elizabeth ROBBIN
I have the following census records for Harvey and Martha…
1850 Federal Census:
District No. 44, Xenia Twp., Greene County, Ohio; July 23, 1850; page 39; visit 545/577
Harvy Jones, 29, male, mulatto, [occupation was blank – I assume farmer], Virginia, cannot read/write
Martha Jones, 28, female, mulatto, Virginia, cannot read/write
Daniel Jones, 16, female(?), mulatto, Virginia, attended school
John Jones, 12, male, mulatto, Virginia, attended school
William Jones, 10, male, mulatto, Virginia
B C(?) Jones, 7, male, mulatto, Ohio, attended school
Alex Jones, 4, male, mulatto, Ohio, attended school
James Jones, 3, male, mulatto, Ohio
1860 Federal Census:
Greene County, Ohio ? – I can’t find them
1870 Federal Census:
Jamestown, Silver Creek Twp., Greene County, Ohio; June 4, 1870; page 196 (17); visit 142/144
Jones Harvey, 46, male, white, Farmer, $400, Virginia, could not read/write, male citizen of U.S. over age 21
—- Martha, 50, female, white, Keeping House, Oh(marked out) Virginia, could not read/write
—- James, 22, male, white, Farm Laborer, Ohio, could not read/write, male citizen of U.S. over age 21
—- Emma, 10, female, white, at School, Ohio, attended school within the year, could not read/write
—- Jennie, 13, female, white, at School, Ohio, attended school within the year
1880 Federal Census:
Silver Creek Twp., Greene County, Ohio; ED# 87; June 19th and 21st, 1880; page 361 (42B, 42 of 44); visit 444/461
Jones Harvey Sr., white, male, 60, married, Farmer, Ohio, Ohio, Ohio
—- Martha, white, female, 56, wife, married, Keeping House, Ohio, Ohio, Ohio
—- James, white, male, 30, son, single, Works on Farm, Ohio, Ohio, Ohio
—- Jennie, white, female, 28, daughter, single, Ohio, Ohio, Ohio
—- Emma, white, female, 20, daughter, single, Ohio, Ohio, Ohio
(next door)
Jamestown, Silver Creek Twp., Greene County, Ohio; June 4, 1870; page 196 (17); visit 141/143
Jones, Benjamin, 25, male, white, Farm Laborer, $100, Ohio, could not read/write, male citizen of U.S. over age 21
—- Julia, 23, female, white, Keeping House, Ohio
—- Sarah, 18, female, white, Keeping House, Ohio
1881 Silver Creek Township Directory (Greene County, Ohio):
Jones, Harry, (col’d), Jamestown, far. 3 1/2 mi. s-e
Jones, Benj., (col’d), Jamestown, far. 3 1/2 mi. s-e
Jones, Harvard, (col’d), Jamestown, far. 3 1/2 mi. s-e
Jones, Jas., (col’d), Jamestown, far. 3 1/2 mi. s-e
27-Apr-1884: “The Jamestown (Greene County OH) Cyclone” destroys 186 homes, 4 churches, the town hall, the high school, 5 dead, 100+ injured, 600 homeless, 20 race horses killed.
12-May-1886: The Shawnee Creek near Xenia OH floods. At least 28 people perish. (Xenia Daily Gazette, 3/2/1984)
1900 Federal Census:
Lost Creek Twp., Miami County, Ohio; ED# 77; June 15 and 16, 1900; page 5B; visit 115/116
Jones, Martha, head, white, female, Mar. 1817, 83, widowed, 11 children – 9 living, Virginia, Virginia, Virginia, Farmer, unemployed 0 months, cannot read/write, rents farm
—- James E., son, white, male, Mar. 1848, 52, widowed, Ohio, Virginia, Virginia, Farm laborer, unemployed 3 months, can read/write
—- Jennie, daughter, white, female, Apr. 1834, 66, single, Ohio, Virginia, Virginia, servant (marked out or crossing “t”), can read/write
—- Emma, daughter, white, female, Dec. 1867, 32, single, Ohio, Virginia, Virginia, servant (marked out or crossing “t”), can read/write
—- Helen M., granddaughter, white, female, June 1891, 9, single, Ohio, Ohio, Ohio
Any information would be greatly appreciated.
I also want to congratulate you on a VERY nice website. The “Historical Articles” and Links have been really informative. I am still reading through them. 🙂 There is a lot of information to digest.
Stacey
Welcome to the forum. That certainly is an interesting family tree, there. I love the way they keep morphing into various races. And there is quite a run on names familiar around here. Very interesting.
Welcome to the forum, Stacey,
Indeed, Linda, …. some of the specific names are familiar.
Thomas GUY, b.abt.1824 NC and his wife Adaline (BURNETT), b.abt.1834 NC, (as well as dau Mary who marr’d one of Stacey’s JONES’s) are found on Haithcock’s list (part 2) of Greene Co., Ohio, related to the JEFFRIES, CORNs and HATHCOCKs. CORDEL is familiar, too.
F.Y.I., Stacey, there is a “J. Jones”, F.P.C., on the 1840 Greene Co., Oh census for Xenia Twp., pg. 267 (image 57 of ancestry.com’s census online), but he doesn’t appear to be old enough for Harvey’s father. In your search for Harvey & Martha’s parents, I wouldn’t rule out their origins as just across the border in NC, or moving back and forth between NC & Va.
I didn’t find Harvey in 1860 either.
Bill
I have never said much about my JONES but I also have it in my line:
WILLIAM3 WILLIAMS (HUGH2, JEREMIAH1) was born 1794 in Greenbrier Co. Va.., and died 1869 in Nicholas Co. WV. He married (1) REBECCA HEATERS. He married (2) ELIZABETH JONES 1818 in Kanawha Co. WV, daughter of THOMAS JONES and LAVINAH THOMAS. She was born 1796 in Greenbrier Co. WV, and died 1882 in Nicholas Co. WV.
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v. JOHN JONES WILLIAMS, b. 1826, Nicholas Co. WVa.; d. Bef. 1880, Nicholas Co. WVa..
I have never gotten any further back.
Brenda
Thank you for your replies.
Is Haithcock’s book available online, to purchase, or for inter-library loan?
For what reasons would my Harvey and Martha among others “re-marry” once they got to Greene County, Ohio?
In regards to the Winfield Studevant that I mentioned earlier, the only place I have found him was in the 1830 census (see below). A website that I found on the Sturdivant family lists his father as Robert Sturdivant and his mother as Mary “Molly” Jones (she was born 1771 in Sussex County, Virginia). Also, the Greensville County Virginia Personal Property Tax List from 1824 to 1839 states: “South of Meherrin Windfield Sturdivant”. I am curious to see if he is related somehow to my Jones or Rosser line (since he proved the age/ages of my 3GGrandparents), or if he was just a neighbor, etc. The other reason I bring this up is because in trying to prove if he is related or not, I have sent for a couple of Studevant pension packets that I believe may be Winfield’s children. One of those (William Studevant’s pension) mentioned Hugh Corn as being the guardian of his children because he was married to Emily Studevant, William’s daughter and possibly Winfield’s granddaughter. A. Corn and Mason Jeffryes were witnesses for Hugh Corn and all of their signatures are on the military papers.
1830 Federal Census:
Greensville County, Virginia; page 45
Winfield Sturdivant
1 male 20 to 30 (white)
2 male under 10 (free colored persons)
3 male 10 to 24 (free colored persons)
3 female 10 to 24 (free colored persons)
1 female 36 to 55 (free colored persons)
1840 Federal Census:
Xenia Twp., Greene County, Ohio; page 256 (35 of 58)
W. Studerman
1 male under 5 (white)
1 male 5 & under 10 (white)
1 male 20 & under 30 (white)
1 female under 5 (white)
2 females 15 & under 20 (white)
1 female 20 & under 30 (white)
I have got some more diggin’ to do.
Stacey
Where do you live, Stacey? The Lawrenceville and the Boydton, VA libraries have Richard’s books. Richard’s actively selling another edition of his books, but he’s a travelling man in the process. I don’t know where you could get ahold of him.
Are you aware that the Corn name is one of only half a dozen surnames that are documented to Saponi? The Jeffryes name isn’t that strongly documented, but comes up very commonly in this connection.
I live in Kokomo, Indiana. (I updated my profile.)
Do you, by any chance, know if Greene County, Ohio would have a copy of his books since they were in that area, too? (I am planning on another trip over there sometime this summer to do some more research.)
I have never been to Virginia before. I just recently (about two weeks ago) discovered what area in Virginia my Joneses were from. I may have to try and make a trip there since I now know which general area to go to.
No, I didn’t know that the Corn name was documented as Saponi, but I remembered seeing it on this website and also at http://www.hogbuster.com along with quite a few other surnames that my Joneses came into contact with, especially in the Greene County Area. That is why I posted it. If anybody wants a copy of it, just let me know, and I can scan it.
Stacey
Stacey,
“Excellent” combination of names…. Mason Jeffries,
and I’ve a little tidbit on him.
(the spelling switches back and forth between Jeffries & Jeffryes)
Following information from the obit of James Jeffries, Xenia, Greene Co., Ohio.
Mason Jeffries was the nephew of James Jeffries, d. in Xenia, Ohio at age of 101. James Jeffries was b. Jan 30, 1821 in GREENSVILLE Co., VA., and his family moved to Greene Co., Oh when he was 11 (abt.1832), settling first about 6 miles from Xenia and later moving to Cedarville where he became a cabinet maker. He moved to Xenia in the 1890s. His wife’s name was Elizabeth.
Some additional names:
“Uriah Jeffryes, a distant relative, married his (James) eldest sister.” (Mason Jeffries was the son of Uriah.)
Other nephews: Albert & Curtis Jeffryes.
Did your JONES’s move on to Hamilton Co., Ind?
Do you have any WILBURN/WILBOURN or WINBURN/WINBOURN in your lines?
Re Harvey and Martha “re-marrying”……
Unless you have a county/state certificate, this may have been a “Minister’s return” or it could be from where they remarried in a new congregration/faith once in Ohio. Then again, they may have eloped and only got around to formalizing it with the authorities later.
And, lot’s of marriages must have taken place that were only agreements between the couple and their parents and then they got officially married when they next (or never) ran into a traveling minister.
Bill
Bill,
I don’t think any of my Joneses went to Hamilton County, but then again, I don’t know my Harvey’s parents or siblings either.
Yes, I do have a Millard Wilburn in my line. He was married to Ollie Marie Jones. She was born about 1909 in Ohio to James William Jones and Margie Gano. Ollie is the great-granddaughter of Harvey and Martha.
Thanks for looking for the 1860 census also. I assume that their household is one of the many that say “unoccupied”. I just haven’t taken the time to go neighbor-by-neighbor yet to prove it. It makes me feel better knowing that a fresh set of eyes has at least looked through the indices and I haven’t completely lost it. 🙂
I also wanted to thank you for explaining about the “re-marrying”. I have their marriage record for Greene County, Ohio, but I don’t have one for Virginia. I guess I was taking it for granted, since they had children before it was formalized. I was getting a little ahead of myself. What you said makes complete sense.
The Uriah and James Jeffries that you mentioned are listed on the same page in the 1850 census (Xenia, page 79) as a James Jones born abt 1818 in Virginia. I have this James Jones as a possible brother to Harvey. I need to do some more researching though. Also on that same page are Ben Bowes/Bower, John Studevant, Z. D. Jeffries, and Christopher Rose. All are listed as cabinet makers born in Virginia.
Stacey
I would be VERY interested in any documentation as Corn as a Saponi name, or indeed identified as Indian in any record. The Corn name as it appears among the Occaneechi is only introduced to the community by intermarriage with the Jeffries family, which is EXTREMELY well documented as an Indian surname, of Siouan origin. Records from Ohio, Indiana, Michigan, and North Carolina all attest to the Indian background of the Jeffries family.
I am aware of NO record identifying Corn as Indian, let alone Saponi.
Regarding Mason Jeffries:
In 1880, in one of several court cases proving the Indian ancestry of the Jeffries family, Mason, James, and Zadoc D. Jeffries all went to court in Greene Co. Ohio to have their children re-instated in the Cedarville School, from which they had been expelled because of allegations of African ancestry. They won their case. I have the paperwork here
Forest,
If no CORN is documented as Indian, would you please explain why the following information is displayed on the cover page of the Occaneechi Saponi tribal history site at
http://www.occaneechi-saponi.org/tribal_history.shtml
“Another improtant early family in Little Texas was that of Robert Brooks Corn, the son of Robert Corn, an Indian who was a veteran of both the French and Indian War and of the Revolutionary War. Robert Brooks Corn was married in 1795 in Greensville County to Jane Jeffries, moving about 1800 to Wake County, North Carolina with his father and their extended family. After his father’s death iin 1816, Robert Brooks Corn moved his family to Little Texas, where three of his wife’s siblings, John, Drury and Littleton Jeffries, along with numerous cousins, were already established.”
This seems to say that the father of Robert Brooks Corn, Robert Corn, was Indian. Is this an error?
Bill
The page should be re-written.
I repeat, there is NO documentation for Robert Corn being an Indian, even though he MAY very well have been. When the home page is revised in the near future, it will be reviewed and revised accordingly. I appreciate you making me aware of it.
While the Corns certainly associated with families of demonstrable Indian background, their own ethnic background is uncertain.
I happen to believe they were Indian, however, what I believe and what I can demonstrate, at least, for the purposes of Federal Acknowledgment, are sometimes very different things.
The fact remains that any descendants of Robert Brooks CORN & Jane Jeffries are of Indian descent and are CORNs. I suspect this is what Linda meant.
As for Federal Acknowledgment, which certainly is a different thing, I’m not going to get into divisive political issues here.
Bill
(1) In point of actual fact, most of the descendants of Robert Brooks Corn and his Jeffries wife remained in this area, are not Corns. The name has pretty much died out through marriage into other families. The ones who did not, changed their name to “Cohn”, which is how most of the older folks here pronounce it. There are a few Cohns still left in the community.
(2)Linda said” the Corn name is one of only half a dozen surnames that are documented as Saponi” This is a little different from your (correct)statement that the descendants of Robert and Jane are of Indian descent.
Linda IS correct that only about a half dozen surnames can be specifically identified as Saponi. Corn however, is not one of them, as far as current research indicates. I would love to find primary documentation for this, as it would help strengthen the tribe’s case for Federal Acknowledgment.
As far as Federal Acknowledgment goes, I mention it simply because the Occaneechi are applying for it, and the standard of proof is a high one. The Feds will not give a flip what I believe about Robert Corn or anyone else in the Tribal genealogy; what they want is a primary document identifying an individual as (1) Indian, and (2) Saponi, Occaneechi, Tutelo, ect.
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