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Lynella,
There is no Crawford County, Kentucky, which might help explain why you couldn’t make any progress on some of these lines.
HOWEVER…. there is a Crawford Co., Indiana, 2 counties up-river, and east of Pike County, Ind.
There, in Patoka Twp., I found Charlie SUTTON (b.abt. 1875 Ind on the 1880 census) as the son of Henry (b.abt. 1842 Ohio, father b.Va., mother b.Ohio) and Rachael C. SUTTON (b.abt.1846 Ind).
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Rachael C. EVANS (b.abt.1845 Ind on the 1860 census) as the daughter of Ezra EVANS (b.abt. 1821 Ind) and Elizabeth _?_, b.abt. 1823 Ind)
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Ida L. FERGUSON (b.abt.1875 Ind on the 1880 census) as the daughter of Thomas J. (b.abt.1850 Ind) and Elmira (b.abt. 1852 Ind., father b.NC, mother b.Ind) FERGUSON.
Do you have any of these people’s siblings’ names to provide a check on the info??
I’ll post the data in the next couple days.
Bill
This is way too cool! Thank You!
O.K. Charlie Sutton is the son of Henry Sutton.
I’m not sure about any other siblings yet.
Ida L. Ferguson’s daughter would be Nora Sutton. Again, I’m not sure on other siblings. I’ll have to call Donna again. Is There a Cherokee number 16111 for Ida Ferguson? Donna was not certain if it was Ida Ferguson (Iva?) or if the number belonged to
Louisa Gentry. Louisa was my Grandpa Kinder’s mother.
So I will get with Donna again about all the sibblings and let you know. Thank you for clearing up the Crawford County Kentucky thing. Do they have a town of Crawford? Well, I’ll check that out. I gotta’ get some maps and books, don’t I! SHOPPING-YEAH!
Thank You again and I’ll get back to ya’.
Glad to hear you’re not certain about the Cherokee number applying to Fergusons or Gentrys.
A line of Gentrys in this area have a family story of being “Cherokee” (via KY), but are closely related to the WILBURN (Ctrl & S.W.Va), GIBSON (Va & NC), SHELTON (Lunenburg/Mecklenbery Co., Va), JONES (Halifax Co., Va line), BLAIR (S.W. Va, Tenn, NC), and a couple more I can’t recall at the moment – the “take-away” premise here is that the Wilburn, Gibson & Jones and probably the Blairs and Sheltons, were not likely Cherokee due to their origins outside Cherokee core-territory (although that’s not an absolute contradiction). These Wilburns, Gibson & Jones were probably Saponi or other E. Sioux, and in some cases, were “documented” Saponi.
Having a “number” doesn’t tell the whole story. It would be more interesting to find out if your Ferguson’s (or Gentry’s) Cherokee application was accepted as “Cherokee”, or denied as “Indian, not Cherokee”. Your direct lines don’t appear to have relocated to Oklahoma or Kansas, so I’d guess the application was not accepted, but I certainly don’t know how the application was resolved. If it was for the GENTRYs, that could be a different story since there were Gentrys on the Cher. rolls, albeit from E. Tenn.
Hi! O.K. this is what Donna sent me;
Charles Sutton is the son of Henry Sutton who married Rachel C. Evans. That’s All on that, so I gotta find out more on Henry Sutton, born in May of 1842. Then I need ot find out more on Rachel Evans’ parents.
Nora Ethel Sutton, daughter of Charlie Sutton, married Alsie (not Elsie like I had) Kinder. Alsie is son of Siegal Frank Kinder (Guinder) and Louisa Elvira Gentry born 6/13/1866, died 1/26/1896. It says Louisa Elvira Gentry was the daughter of John Gentry born 9/14/1832, died 9/10/1897 and Sara Reed. There’s not much on her except a note of Donna’s that says, “Mary Hodges and below that ASA Amos Hodges.” I want to know more about those Hodges!
John Gentry is the son of Matthew Gentry and Nancy Staton. Nancy was born 8/14/1799, died 5/20/1876.
Matthew Gentry was the son of another Matthew Gentry who was the son of Samuel Gentry.
The Iva Leota Ferguson that Donna has here was born 11/9/1870 and died 12/30/1944. She was the 9th of 11 kids and their names in birth order are; Mary Anne, John T., Lucetta, Josie, Rilda, Jane, Samuel Washington, Elizabeth, Iva Leota, Tillman and Calli J.
Donna’s stuff says Iva’s mom & dad were, Joseph Frguson born 18 Sept. 1839 and Mary Ricketts born 17 June 1841 and died 31 March 1918. Joseph was son of Peter Ferguson born 6/22/1803 & died 4/20/1908, who was the son of John Ferguson born 8/11/1778, died 7/21/1826. There is nothing further on Mary Rickets.
That’s what I got. Thank you so much for the Gentry info. Let me know if you find out anything thing els on any of these. Boy, Donna has all kinds of numbers for these that were what she says is Cherokee. A couple of them have two different sets of numbers, so that is really confusing us both.
Well, Thank you and we’ll see what we get, huh? So, who are you related to? Lynella.
Yes, I can confirm your “Donna” information from census records.
With all due resepect, that being a given, what information is it exactly, are you looking for?
😀 See, I told you you are awsome!:p
O.K., so Donna has her info straight? Good!!! Now I need to verify which People had what ID#. Because Donna has 2 numbers for Aaron Hodges, one for his daughter Polly, One for a Mary Hodges who’s number is really close/like coinsides with one of Aaron’s #’s. Then there is the mistery # that she has given me and told me that it is either Ivy’s or Louisa Gentry’s. So I need to find out where and how I go about finding records that would give me the right #’s for the right people. And why Aaron Hodges has 2 numbers. And I’m still hoping against all hope that I might find some NA in those Sutton fellers! Here are those numbers in case you come across any:
Aaron Hodges DOB 1804?, Cherokee #25032
His daughter, Polly Hodges, Cherokee #25031
The same Aaron Hodges? DOB 1804? #194
a Mary A. Hodges/who is she? Polly’s mom?#195
Then she has given me an amos Hodges and Sara Hodges, but I don’t know if they’re any relation or not.
I’m also trying to find out id there is any NA in Rachel C Evans or not.
By the way, Bill, How is that hand? I hope it is doing much better. I do think about ya’ and wonder! I hope all is well and healthy! Love & Light, Lynella.
Lynella,
You mentioned the HODGEs before without specifying how they were related to anyone in your lines (unless I’ve overlooked that).
How do they connect?
Bill
That’s what I’m trying to find out! Donna gave me this info and I’m trying to see where it fits in, cause I haven’t “seen” it! I think she’s saying they are related to the Suttons from before they showed up in Indiana, like from Scioto county in Ohio. But I haven’t found any suttons back that far yet. Or, she’s thinking along the Ferguson line. So, that’s why I’m so determined to put this together or prove her wrong so I can get on with this!!!
I really appreciate you looking into this stuff. Even just your questions for me helps me think of other places to dig. Thank You so very, very much.:D Lynella.
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