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You all might want to check out the September issue of National Geographic. It has an article on the American Indian. There is a map enclosed in this issue also, depicting tribes at the time of contact. My ancestors definitely lived in the area marked Tutelo-Saponi.
Techteach
Do you think you could scan this map? I don’t think NG would mind, considering we’re pluggin the article.
Not sure if I can. It is one of their poster-sized maps. However, I can scan in the east coast where we are concerned. That will fit on my flatbed. However, it may not get done immediately. My Mac is in the shop until who knows when. Feel like my right arm is gone. The old Dell I have to use has helped, but I have to fight everything to make it work on this laptop.
I searched their web site but they seem not to have it on their site.
The other side of this map is a current map that identifies Indianapolis, IN and Columbus, OH as cities with over 5000 American Indians each. It appears as if they got these figures from the last census counting people who identify themselves solely as American Indian.
No Indians in West Virginia though. There are markers for Sappony, Haliwa Sapponi, and Occaneechi Saponi as state-recognized tribes. (Interesting, they leave out the Shawnee in Ohio, who are supposed to be state-recognized.) No Indians in Kentucky either.
Techteach
It appears that NG contacted each state govenment and asked what groups were officially recognized within each state. Last time I checked, I don’t believe Ohio had any officially recognized tribes (tho’ that could have changed recently) Some states don’t have any mechanism for recognizing tribes, other than thru a legislative bill, and I imagine that most state legislatures would look VERY carefully at these bills, given the recent upsurge in Indian gaming controversies.
Nice to see the Occaneechi-Saponi finally on the map, as well as the others.
Forest:
This was a long posting until Netscape crashed.
There is a state tribe of Shawnee in Ohio, however this under dispute. They post the paperwork on their web site but federally recognized Shawnee dispute this.
I did not finish the last posting before I hit something that posted it.
I just wanted to say that any comment on my part as to the validity of their recognition is intended to be neutral. Perhaps in stating this, it sounds negative, however, this is not my intent. They are supposed to be Shawnee who remained behind in Ohio. I have a family member whose handed-down story is that our Ohio family is Shawnee, however, three of us have the Blackfoot-Cherokee story. I think we are both right.
This Shawnee group is helping with the Lewis and Clark recognition activities, because of connections with the Shawnee. They were hosted in Cape Girardeau by Louis Lorimer whose wife was half Shawnee. I used to live there and had an educational activity with my graduate students in the cemetery where she is buried. At the time, I did not know of the connection, either to Lewis and Clark or native Americans.
Techteach
Thanks,
Mind you, I was not taking a position either way myself, just giving my understanding of the situation. It certainly would not be unlikely for there to be remnant Shawnee in Ohio.
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