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September 12, 2004 at 11:45 pm #1125
Hello,
This is my first post. I am doing research on my family tree and I have become stuck. I cannot find any info prior to 1850.
I am looking for info on my great-great-great-grandfather/mother.
Their names are Henry and Mahaby Parker. I believe them to be of Occaneechie or Haliwa Saponi Blood. On different census Mahaby’s name was spelled Haly, Haley, Halsalar. The last of those names I have been trying to research with no luck.
This is the info that I have:
Mr. Henry Parker was born between 1806-1817 in North Carolina but I do not know where. He died between 1870-1895.
He is first counted in 1850 North Carolina Census and the 1850 Federal Census as a ditcher in Fishing Creek, Granville County, North Carolina. He is listed as a 40 year old mulatto male.
Mahaby Parker is first listed with her husband Henry on the 1850 Census of North Carolina as a 45 year old mulatto woman. They had 12 children at that time, their names are:
Eleanor Parker age 20
Eliza Parker age 21
Giles Parker age 15
Ann Parker age 13
Alfred Parker age 12
John Parker age 12
Susan Parker 12
Burwell Parker age 10
William Parker age 8
Bonson Parker age 6
Lucy Parker age 5
Stella Parker age 4
Mahaby’s year of birth is estimated as being 1804 by the US Federal Census. Henry and Mahaby were both listed as being able to read and write.
In my family we where told that we where part Cherokee but my research keeps pointing towards Saponi. I have heard that the Parkers are of Occaneechi/Saponi blood and that it is a Saponi surname but I don’t know how. If any one does please let me know.
We believe but are not 100 percent sure that Mahaby was an Evans before marrying Henry. I do know at our family reunion it is made up of Parker’s, Bass, and Pettiford families. Most of them live in Granville County, but they can be found in neighboring counties. They tended to marry each other alot.
Any info on the Parker’s of North Carolina specifically Henry and Mahaby would be greatly appreciated.
September 12, 2004 at 11:45 pm #10821Welcome to the forum, ADillard,
Henry Parker was still living in 1880 Fishing Creek district of Granville Co. and could be the son of Cader Parker and his 2nd wife Nancy Adcock (marr’d 1809), although this should be regarded as speculation at this point since I’m still digging up records. “Mahalby” is most likely a “Mahala” for which nicknames “Mahaley” & “Haley” predominate.
I have marriage record info on Henry & Haley’s children Giles, Alfred, Susan, William, Bunion (John Bunyan is listed as Bonson/Bonion & Bony on census & Giles signed his Bond), Lucy, Mary and Stella if you don’t have those.
I also have some very early Parker marriages from 1789 to 1813 in Granville Co relating them to WRIGHT, ADCOCK (3), BOLING/BOWLING, TIPPET, HARRIS, which tells me you’re probably correct in thinking they aren’t Cherokee.
Bill
September 12, 2004 at 11:45 pm #10823The Parkers among the Occaneechi-Saponi descend from Sam Parker, born ca. 1820, who came from “down east” according to his descendants, which they explained as being Granville County. When he registered to vote in 1902, he claimed descent from Jack Parker of Virginia.
I have heard that there were some Indian Parkers around Kitterel (sp) in Vance Co, but that the younger generations had merged into the Black race. I have not verified this myself.
September 12, 2004 at 11:45 pm #10829Ms. hazel,
Thank you for your reply.
I have a copy of the Southern Indian Studies published by the North Carolina Archaeological Society. Volume 40 – October 1991
They also mention a Sam Parker.
“However, it is known from oral tradition that an Indian named Sam Parker moved to The Texas Community from the Vance-Granville county area prior to te Civil War.”
“In 1752, a Thomas Parker was granted land on Tabbs Creek adjoining lands of William Eaton and William Chavis, another individual who seems to be of partial Indian ancestry. There are still Parkers of Indian descent living in that area near the town of Kittrell.”
Is this the same Sam Parker you are speaking of.
As for Kiterel, North Carolina, My cousin Theodore Parker who is the father of our family reunion President, Stanley Parker lived in Kiterel. He would be the great grandson of Henry Parker. What else do you know about the Parker’s in Kiterel?
September 12, 2004 at 11:45 pm #10830Hi,
Thank you for your post Mr. Childs. I have sent you an e-mail. Hope you got it. Keep in touch. Thanks.
September 12, 2004 at 11:45 pm #10832Hi
My cousing Andrea has invited me to this board to discuss our family.
I had a question for Bill, why do you think Cader is Henry’s father.
Thanks
Khalilah
September 12, 2004 at 11:45 pm #10834Sadly, we have never been able to trace much beyond Sam Parker, aside from his statement about descending from Jack Parker of Virginia, who may have been his father, grand-father, or earlier ancestor. The theory was that you named an ancestor who was a voter in 1867, which enabled you to register to vote in 1902. Some of the older folks refer to it as the “grandfather clause” (Altho Sam Parker would have been old enough to have been a voter himself in 1867, he still named an ancestor, as did several other folks in the community)
Sam Parker is buried at Deep Creek P. B. Church in Alamance County. “Died April 9, 1908 Aged 82 Yrs.” Which would give him a birth year of roughly 1826. He married in April 1846 in old Orange County to Lucy Shavers, who family tradition states lived on Deep Creek in an Indian settlement made up of Jeffries, Chavis, and related families. Family tradition also associates them with the Hayes family, specifically Charlie Hayes, who moved to the area from somewhere east of Alamance county around the Civil War. Numerous Parker descendants still live in the community today.
I only know what I stated before about the Parkers in Vance County being Indian, or rather of having a tradition of Indian ancestry. I heard this from a researcher who, years ago, was doing work on the Haliwa-Saponi Tribe.
Thomas Parker MAY or may not be ancestral to the Parkers there today, but we have yet to prove or disprove it.
Sorry I can’t provide more specifics.
September 12, 2004 at 11:45 pm #10837Hi Hazel,
Thank You for your quick response, but I was really wondering why Bill said that he thinks Henry’s Father name was Cader Parker. The following websites seem to verify his claim that Sam Parker and Cader Parker are indeed father and son. Can you check the following links to see if it correlates with your research?
http://kinnexions.com/smlawson/parkerr.htm
**** If you go to the link above and click on John Parker and Ann Copeland, then I believe this is Sam and Cader’s ancestors.
http://www.tedmrd.com/PARKER/parker.htm
And Bill I would also like the information you have on the Marriages of Henry Parker Children. I know that Alfred Parker married Melvina Evans, and he move his entire family to Ohio.
Thank You so much for all the help you guys have given us. If it turns out Cader Parker is Henry’s father. We will be able to trace our roots all the way back to the 1600s.
September 12, 2004 at 11:45 pm #10842I have glanced over the info on the web site, and it is interesting. There may well be a connection, tho I’m not sure exactly what it is yet. We have been unable to locate Sam Parker and his family in the 1850 Census yet, which might tell us something.
And by the way, Forest is my first name, I’m actually a “he”. 8)
September 12, 2004 at 11:45 pm #10843Sorry about that Forest. I didn’t realize you were a man.
Thanks again for replying to my message. I know that there is a Cader and Samuel Parker listed on some of the 1800s Censuses, but it doesn’t tell there ethnicity, so I have a hard time fitting them into our Family Tree. I just got really excited, when Bill said that he believed that Cader Parker was Henry Parker’s Father. If this was the case, then I think the people on that website are my ancestors.
September 12, 2004 at 11:45 pm #10845The Cader Parker listed on that website was b. 1745, “never married” and d. 1780, nearly 30 years before the one I referred to was being married.
The Cader Parker I referred to, married Nancy Adcock in 1809, so these “Caders” are two different people but they are likely to be related.
My comment that Henry Parker may be the son of Cader reflects the coincidence of them being in the same area with Cader being there earlier when Henry was born. Like I said, no proof, but it’s something you should probably look into.
Bill
September 12, 2004 at 11:45 pm #10846Hello Mr. Childs,
Thanks for the info. I looked all last night and I found a couple of references to a Cader Parker and a Nancy Adcock but I couldn’t find any listing of Children for them. Also, you metioned that Nancy was his 2nd wife I think. Who was his first wife and did they have children?
ADillard
Mr. Hazel,
I’m sorry about the mix up. I guess I was so excited I wasn’t paying attention.
September 12, 2004 at 11:45 pm #10847Henry Parker was the Bondsman for the following 3 marriages in Granville Co., NC per “Marriages of Granville County NC 1753 to 1868”, compiled by Brent H. Holcomb, 1981:
Alfred Parker + Melvina EVANS, bond 20 Nov 1854;
Witness: A. Landis. Married 30 Nov 1854 by W.D. Allen, Justice of the Peace.
Giles Parker + Betsy PETTIFORD, bond & marr. 8 March, 1862;
Witness: A. Landis. Marr. by E. B. Lyon, J.P.
William Parker + Emma PETTIFORD, bond 28 Aug 1863. Marr. 29 Aug 1863 by E.B. Lyon, J.P.
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from the same source as above:
John Bunyan Parker + Mary Ann BRANDUM (Brandon?), bond 9 June 1863. Bondsman: Giles Parker. Witness: A. Landis. Marr. 16 June 1863 by E.B. Lyon, J.P.
(“John Bunyan” is probably “Bunion”, shown in the Henry Parker family of 1850 which also contained Giles Parker. Bunion is who you showed as “Bonson”.)
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Other marriages from the same source as above:
Jepthah Parker + Elisabeth TALLEY, 20 Dec 1783.
Bondsman: Peter Badjet. Witness: Dennis Reardon.
Samuel Parker + Lucy HARRIS, 14 Dec 1784.
Bondsman: Samuel Harris. Witness: Bennet Searcy.
Elijah Parker + Mary HARRIS, 3 Feb 1789.
Bondsman: Jonathan Badgett. Witness: Henry Potter.
George Parker + Lucy WILKINSON, 10 Dec 1789.
Bondsman: Bowling Adcock. Witness: A. Henderson.
David Parker + Cloe ADCOCK, 4 Jan 1792.
Bondsman: Linem Adcock. Witness: W. Norwood.
George Parker + Piety HARRIS, 7 Aug 1792.
Bondsman: Thomas Harris. Witness: W. Norwood.
Cader Parker + Phebah WRIGHT, 25 Dec 1801.
Bondsman: Jordan Wright. Witness: P. Bullock.
Cader Parker + Nancey ADCOCK, 27 May 1809.
Bondsman: Wm. Adcock. Witness: W.M. Sneed.
Cader Parker + Jincy TIPPET, 14 June 1813,
Bondsman: Thomas D. Ridley. Witness: Thos. J. Hicks.
Richard H. Parker + Mollie L. BURWELL, bond 4 Oct 1865. Marr. 5 Oct 1865 by M. H. Vaughan, Rector of St. Stephen’s Church.
Bondsman: J. Beverly Hunter.
James A. Parker + Elvira S. WILSON, bond 8 Oct 1865. Marr. 11 Oct 1865 by J.F. Harris, J.P. Bondsman: Jas. R. Duty.
Packaline Parker + Rhoda ANDERSON, bond 8 May 1866. Marr. 9 May 1866 by W. P. White, J.P.
Davy Parker, of color, son of Davy & Lotty Parker, married 19 Jan 1868 Betsy MASENBURG, daughter of Washington & Peggy Masenburg. Marr. by W.D. Allen, J.P.
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This may also be a Parker, but was spelled Parkes:
John Parkes + Jane MAILLING, 26 Dec 1789.
Bondsman: Robert Pretty. Witness: Stephen Sneed.
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Bill
September 12, 2004 at 11:45 pm #10849Here are additional marriages for which Henry Parker was the Bondsman:
Giles BRANDON + Sally Ann EVANS, 27 Nov 1846.
Wit: Wm. H. Whitfield.
Roberson PETERSON + Lucy Ann PARKER, 11 Mar 1865 by E. B. Lyon, J.P. (license shows groom’s name as Isham Peterson so Roberson or Isham was probably his middle name.)
Minniard PETTIFORD + Beady PETTIFORD, bond 1 April 1865.
Marr 2 April 1865 by E. B. Lyon, J.P. Wit: A. Landis.
Larkin SMITH + Stella PARKER, bond 4 Mar 1865. Marr 5 March 1865 by E.B. Lyon, J.P.
Arthur VAUGHAN, colored, parents unknown, Marr’d Mary PARKER, daughter of Henry & Haly Parker. Bond 12 Oct 1868. Marr’d by Jeffires Burwell, M.G., __ Oct 1868.
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Bill
September 12, 2004 at 11:45 pm #10851F.Y.I.,
I’ve posted 2 messages before this one so scroll up to make sure you don’t miss the marriage postings ……..
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In a “perfect” world, Cader Parker would have to be the father of Henry Parker….. but we only have circumstancial evidence:
On the index for 1840 Granville Co., NC, there are only two PARKER households:
CADER PARKER,
household contains:
1 male 50 to 59 yrs old.
1 female 40 to 49 yrs old. (probably his 3rd wife.)
Racial designation unclear – living in the middle of people we know are not white or black but are “not otherwise designated” and are “MU” on the 1850 census.
NANCY PARKER,
Incorrectly indexed and haven’t found her on the actual census.
I’m tempted to speculate she may be Cader’s 2nd wife. I’m still going thru this census to locate her and find out who might have been living in the same household.
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1830 Granville Co., NC census:
David Parker,
household contains:
1 male 60 to 69.
1 female 40 to 49.
Ditto designations.
Cader Parker,
1 male 5 to 9.
1 male 40 to 49.
1 female 30 to 39.
Ditto designations.
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1820 Granville Co., NC census:
Kader Parker,
household contains:
1 male 26 to 44.
1 female 26 to 44.
Ditto designations.
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1810 census:
David Parker (26 to 44 y/o) is here again – has 4 females in the household but has no other males, but has 2 slaves, sex not designated.
Lucy Parker is here – no males in the household but has 11 slaves. I’m tempted to speculate that she might be Samuel Parker’s widow (?). He is on the 1800 census, aged 26 to 44, with a 16 to 25 y/o male also in his household as well as 2 younger females and 8 slaves.
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There are at least 3 “Cader”/”Kader” Parkers alive at the same time in the upper tier counties of NC in the 1800 to 1820 period.
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1790 Granville Co., NC census:
Amos Parker
Jephta Parker
Samuel Parker
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On the 1789 Gates Co Tax List is also a “Kader” Parker – prompting me to think that the earlier Cader Parker did not die in 1780 or that he and his brothers have spawned a slew of like-named clones 🙂
Bill
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