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November 15, 2005 at 5:46 am #1882
Hello,
I haven’t been here in a while. I just wanted to know if Anyone out there have done any DNA testing? I understand some people feel they don’t need it. Others just want to confirm certain aspects of thier geneaological research such as myself. I have Corresponded with many people of my shared Haplogroup A. One young lady of Quatelmalan Indian decent and I shared 5 out of six of our mutations. We keep intouch on a regular basis.
The other Haplogroups common to Native American peoples B, C, D, and X have and sometimes been shared with people of European, Asian and Pacific Island decent. In the Data base I came across this. However I found Haplogroup A mostly confined to people of Native American, Central and South American decent. I Could be wrong in my asessment, I guess until more results are obtained.
I have Just started a group for Haplogroup A. I also welcome members who are interested in being tested and learning about thier Native ancestry. We come from all walks of life! I have some interesting files downloaded onto the site as well. If any members have thier certifiate of testing it can be downloaded onto the site with a brief Family bio and photo. In the future I hope to have membership cards and t-shirts. For any of you who are curious this is a not for profit group. In the future I hope to organize live meetings if possible and attend pow-wows and other Native american cultural festivities. Many people here do not belong to any bonafied tribe or are affiliated with any tribal nation directly. (we will spared ouserlves the govermental and bureacratic red tape folks) We have also welcomed any members of Any of the other Haplogroups with know native heritage or members of any tribal nation who wants to give cultural input.
Go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nativesistergroup/
If anyone has any questions please feel free to contact me.
Thanks.
Shoshone
November 15, 2005 at 5:46 am #17500Shoshone,
Your link doesn’t work.
Bill
November 15, 2005 at 5:46 am #17506Hello Bill,
I don’t know what happened. I will put the link in this message and then try to change it in the original message. If it dosen’t work then any one wishing to view it can copy and paste. It should work then. Any questions e-mail me.
Thanks!
Shoshone
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nativesistergroup/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nativesistergroup/
November 15, 2005 at 5:46 am #17532Thanks. An interesting site.
November 15, 2005 at 5:46 am #17542That’s a great idea. I am happy for your success. What is the known difference between A, B, C and D? Do they represent different tribal groups (Siouan, Algonquin, Iriquoian, et cetera) or are they all mixed together?
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I did a “Hawkins” y chromosome DNA test — I knew it wouldn’t lead to American Indian ancestry, but I hoped it would link me to people I am related to. Well my Hawkins connected on 12 of 13 markers with many Hawkins, meaning mine probably deviated from theirs in Europe 5 or 6 hundred years ago. Maybe someday someone else will take the test and we’ll connect on 13 of 13 markers. Then I’ll have probably found an ancestor that split off from my family in America.
I’m intrigued with the genetree test — not Y or mtDNA but a third that will show Native American DNA if it is present, with possible 10% error. It might show nothing therefore under about 1/8th blood, but I think I am 1/8th of 3/16ths, so it should show something.
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November 15, 2005 at 5:46 am #17559Dear Bill,
Thanks for the encouragement on my project. The different Haplogroups (A, B, C, D, X) Occur at different frequencies amongst most Native American populations. Some may be found more frequently in a certain geographical area and to a less extent in a another. one exception is the Na-Dene tribe.
I have included two excellent links here that you will really enjoy reading:
http://cita.chattanooga.org/mtdna.html
http://www.humpath.com/article.php3?id_article=1627
Do you know what Y haplogroup you belong to? Did you do a Mtdna (maternal) test?
I think I will post these two links as a separate thread. I am sure some will enjoy reading them.
Take care Bill.
Shoshone
November 15, 2005 at 5:46 am #17562I’ve thought about taking the test but I was not sure which one would be the best. Mother’s Line versus Father’s Line? Which place I could trust…..Seems to me that there are alot of scams out there and I just don’t want to deal with that. Any suggestions?
Erica
November 15, 2005 at 5:46 am #17564Dear Erica,
Thanks for your reply. Great photos and website. I just checked it out. Very informative on Black/Indian culture. Well lets see…..I myself first did the Ancestry by DNA test (genetree). I did not put down my ethnicty to see what happened. The scored it correctly I being mostly African Decent, then European and next Asian/native American. Based on my family research and heritage they scored very good! Then the Mtdna (DNA test) by The Genographic project, Tracing all of my females going back. Females pass on thier markers to thier daughters each generations. The females pass it on to thier sons as well then it is stays with the sons and is not passed on to thier children. Once again based on Family Oral history I showed positive results For Native American through my inherited Haplogroup A.
Most Testing groups are reputable. It’s the sites they mainly claim to tell you about your American Indian heritage that can be a scam. Do you know what side you may have your Native lineage from? Is it your mother or father Side? It’s simple. I would recomend if it’s your mother testing from the National Geographic Genographic project. The kit and processing is only $99 The test can be much more costly else where is. You also get a Video/CD that tells you about Dr. Spence wells and documents him traveling all over the world to different cultures collecting samples. As I said in a post previous everything is done anonymously and you are simply given a code. If you want after you get your results 6-8weeks then you can download and compare your info on FTdna. It’s Awsome! It can help Black/indians like ourselves as you know with many early records have been difficult for us to trace exactly what tribe we are actually from due to Slavery, intermarriages, misclassifications ect. I am still struggling with some aspects of this.
http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/groups/g_16589251/Member+Photos/Shoshone.jpg?bcKtOfDBNItCWZ1w
https://www9.nationalgeographic.com/genographic/index.html
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nativesistergroup/
Check the site out and let me know. It’s a great project.
Shoshone
November 15, 2005 at 5:46 am #17565Thank you so much for your input. I have Native American Ancestors on both my mother’s and father’s side.
Mother (Her mother not full blooded)
Father (His mother not full blooded and father not full blooded)
Erica
PS: I say that my great grand parents were full blooded Native American. I think that would be the mothers. (Example….my grandfather’s mother and my grandmother’s mother—my daddy side………..my grandmother’s mother—-my mamma’s side)
Hope that was not too confusing.
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