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March 15, 2007 at 6:33 am #2871
Oh, PappyDick, now you have my attention! I’ve been holding back posting my family names because I just don’t have the time to devote to being thorough organizing the dates and places I have and to work back and forth with information at this time. (I’m dealing with some health issues) But now you mention old unavailable VA records…. could be just where my answers are.
I hope I’ve caught you before you leave. If not maybe you’ll make another trip someday.
I grew up in NW IN being told I was American and part Indian. After years of asking what kind of Indian, when I was about 17 I finally got an answer. My Father and his sister insisted it was Blackfoot and said their brother and uncle said it was Cherokee but it was Blackfoot. My story has a different twist than usual on this Board in that this family’s heritage is German. My family has always believed we were part Indian and most of them had black hair and dark eyes and skin. I will post some pictures sometime.
Can you please see if you run across any of my Grandmothers? Women named Margaret/ Eva Margaretha Hammon m. Heinrich or Henry Dorflinger, Doerflinger, Dorffllinger, Derflinger, Durflinger, even Tarflinger and Terflinger (from Germany Black Forest, Rhine River area the family possibly originally from Alsace, arrived I think about 1759 to Bucks Co. PA), lived in Loudon Co. VA.
I think Margaretha was born in Bucks Co. PA where she and Heinrich married in the Tohikon Church in 1761, this is from memory. In a book on the Tohhikon Church it says the minister who married my GGGGGrandparents traveled to Indian lands to preach. It wasn’t all that far from the Blackfoot Town. One would think the Hammons in these church records were German but many Indians were Christianized early on and there was also a Hammon who was a Fur Trader.
Or Susan or Susannah Goldsberry (Gouldsberry) m. Henrich’s son, Thomas Durflinger in VA. I have located mulatto Goldsberrys…. one Goldsberry ancestor on an old message board saying she came from a Black family. I’m not aware of having Black heritage. Susan is referenced in a book called From The Rhine To The Shenandoah as Thomas’s wife but a prominent Goldsberry researcher doesn’t know of her any where else though Goldsberrys did move to OH also. I believe I read Goldsberry Brothers operated Harper’s Ferry for a while. I think a Goldsberry in Maryland had slaves. Could this have been an Indian Slave?
Or Christiana Furron, Furon, or Furrow (unsure of actual last name) m. Thomas’s son, Henry Derflinger in VA. Henry and Christiana’s son Joseph Aaron is my GGrandfather. On Joseph’s Marriage Certificate it lists his mother’s maiden name as either Furron or Furrow, (I can’t read it.)
Christiana and Henry seem to have split up earlier in OH where they lived and the children were found living with other families on a census. Later Christiana was living with a Daniel Furon In IL in 1860 and her son, my 20-year-old GGrandfather, Joseph (Jos. A) was with her while his father was still back in OH seemingly m. to a Delilah Bushong. Interestingly his occupation is listed as Basket Maker. I wonder if Daniel Furon was a brother of Christiana’s or a 2nd husband. He was younger than her. A Christiana Furrow was born in VA but later than my Grandmother who was b. abt 1817. A Furrow family was neighbors of my Grandparents in OH and one of Christiana’s and Henry’s children lived with them when everyone was split up. Since Joseph’s marriage was in 1900 I wonder if Furron/Furrow was maybe the same name as Furon on the IL Census and maybe Daniel was her 2nd husband and Joseph just didn’t know her maiden name. So I don’t really know her maiden name and am interested in any Christianas b. abt. 1817 in VA and m. to Henry Dur/Der/Dorflinger.
I still think I should fill in dates and county names before posting to Geneology so as to not inconvenience others.
Thank you,
Dianne
March 15, 2007 at 6:33 am #25342Alternate Spellings of Hammon in the book:
A history of the Tohickon Union Church, Bedminster Township, Bucks County, Pennsylvania : with copy of church records, Reformed congregation, 1745-1869, Lutheran congregation, 1749-1840
Meadville, Pa.: Press of the Tribune Pub. Co., 1925, 509 pgs.
are Haman, Hamman, Hahman. While I don’t know a source for this, one family researcher states Eva Margaretha Haman’s parents are George and Magdalena Hammon and that Eva Margaretha was born 1735 in Bucks Co.
Heinrich/Henry thought to have arrived in 1749 not 1759 on the ship Patience w/ his older brother Frederich.
I have not veiwed the text but have statement that in From The Rhine To The Shenandoah, Vol.1 by Daniel W. Bly, that Henry Darflinger owned 240 acres in Loudon Co. VA and also owned several slaves.:(
The IL Census I referred to is the 1870 not the 1860 in Richland in Marshall Co. The name Daniel Furon could be Fuson. On this Census Christiana is said to be born in IN, not VA as stated In the 1850 Union Co. OH Census. The birthdates for her are consistant.
March 15, 2007 at 6:33 am #25382Dianne,
I moved this to its own thread.
I was able to expand a little on your info.
Madison Co., Ohio is next door to Union Co:
1840 Madison Co., Ohio Census; Fairfield Twp;
Henry DURFLINGER,
household contains:
3 males under 5.
1 male 40 to 49 (but this is probably your Henry)
1 female 20 to 29.
(In 1830 Madison Co, are the households of:
Daniel Durflinger, 50 to 59.
THOMAS Durflinger, 50 to 59.
HENRY Durflinger, 20 to 29; 2 females under 5, 1 female 20 to 29.
So Henry may have been previously married.)
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1850 Union Co., Ohio Census; Washington Twp; 10 Aug; p.88
household 1198:
Henry DERFLINGER, 43, m, – , Laborer, $300, Va.
CHRISTIANA…….., 33, f, – , Va.
John………………, 15, m, – , Ohio.
William B…………., 13, m, – , Oh.
Emmet……………., 11, m, – , Oh.
Thomas……………, 8, m, – , Oh.
Elizabeth J……….., 7, f, – , Oh.
LEVI M……………., 6, m, – , Oh.
DANIEL R…………., 3, m, – , Oh.
JOSEPH A…………, 11 months, m, – , Oh.
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Logan Co. is the next county west of Union Co., Oh.
1860 Logan Co., Ohio Census; Bokes Creek Twp; P.O. East Liberty; 30 June; p.158; Household 1178:
William FURROW, 40, m, – , farmer, $1000, $100; Iowa.
Sarah………….., 39, f, – , Ohio.
Levi DURFLINGER, 15, m, – , Oh.
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LaSalle Co. is the next county north of Marshall Co.
1860 LaSalle Co., Ill Census; Town of Dayton; 14 June; p.14
Household 100:
David FURROW, 60, m, – , farmer, $6270, $800, Va.
DANIEL………., 30, m, – , Ohio (Christiana’s 2nd husband)
John…………., 25, m, – , Oh.
Joseph………., 18, m, – , Oh.
Mary…………., 20, f, – , Oh.
Ann………….., 13, f, – , Oh.
Zacharias……., 9, m, – , Oh.
(David Furrow Sr’s son David Jr, 29, b. Ohio, was working at Jas. Croft, 60, m, – , England; in 1860 Marshall Co., Ill)
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1870 Marshall Co., Ill Census; Richland Twp; 25 July; p.19;
Household 136:
DURFLINGER, Levi; 25, m, W, Farm Laborer, $0, $200, Ohio
……………., Anna; 23, f, W, Ohio.
……………., William H.; 4, m, W, Ill.
……………., Arvil S.; 1, m, W, Ill.
Household 140:
FURON, Daniel, 40, m, W, Laborer, $0, $300, Ohio. (Furon/Furow)
………, CHRISTIANA, 51, f, W, Ind.
DURFLINGER, Jos. A.; 20, m, W, Ohio.
COOK, Mary, 23, f, W, Penn.
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Woodford Co. is the next county south of Marshall Co., Ill.
1880 Woodford Co., Ill Census; ED225 Village of Washburn; 3 June; p.6B; Household 65:
FURROW, Daniel, W, m, 42, – , married; Ohio, Oh, Oh.
……….., Christina, W, f, 59, Wife, married; Ohio, Oh, Oh.
DURFLINGER, Daniel; W, m, 30, Step-son; Ind, Oh, Oh. (Christiana’s son)
on p.5A of the same census is Daniel’s brother David (Jr).
FURROW, David; W, m, 48, Laborer; Ohio, Penn, Pa.
……….., Mary; W, f, 46, Wife; Tenn, Tenn, Tenn.
……….., George; W, m, 13, son; Ill, Ohio, Tenn.
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Which still leaves us with identifying Christiana’s maiden name.
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This was generated in the course of the search so I’ll list a summary of them:
David Furrow (Sr), b. 15 Jun 1798 Montgomery Co., Va, d. 14 Mar 1880 Hancock Co., Ill; m’d 28 Feb 1821 Miami Co., Oh., Nancy Cavender, b. 9 Oct 1799 Sussex Co., Del, d. unkn. (her info not verified)
The Furrows appear to have come from Switzerland before 1780’s to Southampton Co., Va (via Nansemond Co?? – 1783 Tax List as “Farrow”?); moved thru Amelia Co. to Botetourt/Montgomery Co.
Line contains but not entirely verified – use only as a roadmap to check out:
FURROW + FARLEY, (border of Isle of Wight/Southampton Co., Va)
GRAHAM + FARLEY (Botetourt Co., Va – but were from Southampton Co),
COCKE + FLEMING (New Kent Co., Va),
FARLEY + STEWART, (Amelia & Montgomery Co’s, Va)
The “Goldsbury” ‘s with Frederick “Darflinger” are in 1820 Ross Co., Ohio,
No Goldsberry or Darflinger (any spellings) were found on Virginia Tax Lists of the 1780’s so they may have ‘just passed thru’ before or later.
Bill
March 15, 2007 at 6:33 am #25385Dear Bill,
Thank you for this. I will study it and let you know how it seems to match with what I have. I actually came to Saponitown late last summer with a Google search for Cherokee-Indiana-Fields-Bird…. looking for some of my maternal names. The Derflinger with Blackfoot family verbal history is my paternal line. I think I’ve seen here that you are in Indiana and have Morgan as one of your names. My Maternal Grandmother was Hazel L. Morgan, daughter of Isaiah. So I’d thought we might end up on that someday. There was no family history of Indian there; I just kept coming across my maternal names as Indians when researching my paternal names. I’ve only lightly skimmed the Census and Google and think my Great Grandfather Morgan is of Quaker Heritage PA to SC, OH, to IN. There is a tree online a cousin of mine has posted I’ll send you a link to.
With this Derflinger Family, as is usual, they keep using the same given names over and over many times even in the same generation. There are many Henrys, Thomas’, Jacobs, etc.
I have in my possession an extensive paper copy of a Derflinger tree of many lines including ours from our 1st proven generation, Heinrich Dorflinger. It has many sources included. My 2nd cousin, Charles Derflinger who happens to live in Noblesville, Indiana just north of you, sent it to me along with photocopies of census pages and tombstones. He is a wonderful man if you are feeling neighborly I’m sure he’d love to hear from you. It is his late Father, my Great Uncle, who along with my late Uncle Don who have only heard of our Indian as Cherokee. Of course, one Grandmother could have been Cherokee and another Blackfoot or any of the other theories Cherokee Blackfoot people here work with. I need to contact Charles to tell him of all this and see if he can send me the digital copy of the tree. I’ll try calling him today.
Myself, our State of Nebraska provides us with free access to the Census Online and online family history books through Heritage Quest. That and anything I fine online is what I have to work with.
Heinrich/Henry died in 1804. His will is found online in OH Gen-Web and I have it from Charles. It states all of his lands in Loudoun and Farquier Cos. are to be sold and the profits evenly divided between his sons. So I was thinking that could have been what spurred my GGGGrandfather Thomas to move to Ohio. Thomas was b. 1771 so would have been 33 When his father died. I find none of them in any censuses under any spellings before moving to OH. I think I’d like to concentrate on Thomas’ wife, SUSAN GOLDSBERRY/GOULDSBERRY as the most likely source of possibly being Indian. The tree states their oldest son, Henry; my GGGrandfather was b. VA abt. 1807. The family is found in Ross Co. OH by 1818 selling land.
Much on them is already worked out. SUSAN and CHRISTIANA are the questions and most likely possibilities of being Indian. I will try to make a concise list of the dates and places to aid in an attemp to narrow the possibilies by families even as they moved west.
I’m never too sure about those R’s & N’s or W’s & R’s & N’s on the Furon/Furrow names.
Joseph did return to OH as a young man and had his first family with his wife, Ella Gross. They’re found in VanWert OH. When she died he married my GGrandmother, Julia Ann Bridenbauh/Bridenbaugh (her parents had come directly to IL from Germany) and started his 2nd family at age 50 in Newton Co. IN., which at some point was created out of Jasper Co. My father and his siblings grew up very close to Joseph’s children by his first wife.
Again, thank you and it is a pleasure to meet you. I always say I’m from Indiana, and I live in Nebraska, even though I’ve been here 35 years.
Dianne
March 15, 2007 at 6:33 am #25388#1 My Grandmother, Goldie May Derflinger, Dau. of Joseph Aaron Derflinger
#2 Brother of Joseph Aaron Derflinger
#3 My Father, Glenn, son of Goldie May Derflinger
#4 A cousin by marriage & my father, Glenn
#5 Uncle Don, Dad’s Brother
March 15, 2007 at 6:33 am #25390#6 Aunt Juanita, Dad’s sister
#7 Uncle Leonard, Dad’s Brother
March 15, 2007 at 6:33 am #26484Logan Co. is the next county west of Union Co., Oh.
1860 Logan Co., Ohio Census; Bokes Creek Twp; P.O. East Liberty; 30 June; p.158; Household 1178:
William FURROW, 40, m, – , farmer, $1000, $100; Iowa.
Sarah………….., 39, f, – , Ohio.
Levi DURFLINGER, 15, m, – , Oh.
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This Sarah is a possibility. Logan County had many Saponi families in it, per Richard Haithcock (his book is available for sale on the history section of this forum in a sticky thread). He reports Heathcocks, Newsome, James, Byrds Taburn, Peirce, Wade, Dimmery, Grain, Jackson, Madrey, Hayes, Heathcock, Bowser, Price, Archer, Ash, Pediford, Cross, Heathcock, Nusum, Dempsey, Waldon, Tan.
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