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June 23, 2007 at 12:50 am #3098
Osiyo. Greetings. I am another person with lines that murk into the past. I have paternal legends of “Cherokee-Blackfoot” and maternal legend of Cherokee. I think I have the “Melungeon Bump”. I think I have the gum-ridge. I think I had “shovel-teeth” to some extent … I can only remember some of my teeth. I have a very high instep, a 2nd toe longer than my big toe … and a beating drum that won’t stop in my head and heart – a very old “ndn-within”, and ancestors calling – and I hope to bring them home.
I hope I can find some answers here – and I hope just as highly that I can help you find some answers as well. New to this particular part of the search. Trying to narrow things down so I know which DNA test(s) to start with – and cousin, I am looking for you.
My gensite is http://www.tribalpages.com . Enter “dogg” in the userID block.
Sincerely,
Dano
June 23, 2007 at 12:50 am #27107Hi Dan and welcome…hope you find many new friends here and maybe family too! There are many here gifted in Native knowledge as well as genealogical research.
Shirley:)
June 23, 2007 at 12:50 am #27109Sgi/Wado Sammarroq! Can you tell me what is the Sioux word for thank you?
I have already met friends – at least one cousin and probably two – and gained more knowledge in one brain-twisting evening than in the past three years.
I am very happy to be here – and hope you will keep me.
Dan
June 23, 2007 at 12:50 am #27125danricecote wrote: Sgi/Wado Sammarroq! Can you tell me what is the Sioux word for thank you?
I have already met friends – at least one cousin and probably two – and gained more knowledge in one brain-twisting evening than in the past three years.
I am very happy to be here – and hope you will keep me.
Dan
Dan,
I do not know many Lakota words, but thank you is Pidamaya or Pilamaya. I hope you enjoy Saponitown.:)
Shirley
June 23, 2007 at 12:50 am #27128sammarroq wrote: Dan,
I do not know many Lakota words, but thank you is Pidamaya or Pilamaya. I hope you enjoy Saponitown.:)
Shirley
Hau Shirley; I want to share with you what I have been told – feel free to correct.
Pilamaya = Go in Peace (or, ’til we meet again)
Pilamaye = Thanks
Pilamayaye = Thank You
waste wakan (Good Morning), 🙂
Dan
(If this relates to other Sioux Tribes, I don’t know)
June 23, 2007 at 12:50 am #27130Hi everyone,
I know very little Lakota and have not studied but just been around it. The thing is there are various dialects. Different clans say things in their own way. There is a male and female language. All the endings are different like spanish. I have been around more of the male language. The Holy Language is different from everyday language. There are subtle differances and probably only spoken in cerimonies. When we sing songs the endings of words for the women go one way and the male another. All this happends together at the same time.
An example is women do not sa Ho they say Hum for agreement when some one is talking.
The one thing i noticed above is Wakan means Sacred. So that would be sacred day. I am told everything is Wakan so it is used a lot with various meanings. Wakan Tanka, literal translation is Big/Great Sacred for the Father.
Thank you above is variations depending of tribe or clan i believe.
Pi-la-maya-yea-lo is what we use for -Thank you. I believe this is the masculine form. Some shorten it to Pi-la-maya-yea and is much less formal.
Again because i have not studied this in a formal way check me out. This is just my personal experiance.
Janette
June 23, 2007 at 12:50 am #27131Hey Dan and Janette,
Thanks for sharing…I would like to learn more of the language, but have a pretty full plate right now. I just used the generalized form (Lakota) of the word, not adding the yo/yea for the masc. and fem. ending. If you all have more language to share…I would love for you to post. I could maybe pick up a little at a time…others may enjoy it as well. Have a wonderful day!:)
Shirley
June 23, 2007 at 12:50 am #27133(Big Grin) – Thank you both for posting. Janette, thank you for the very informative explanation! Well, I think it’s about time for me to drop a couple of my other sites so I can stay here more and learn. This is, so far, very rewarding and even inside, I feel a smile.
My eyes are blood-shot from re-diving into my gene-pool. (Big Spash).
June 23, 2007 at 12:50 am #27163Hey Dan nice to see you here, I see that you have many of the names that appear here on SAponi Town so hang in there and enjoy yourself, Welcome once again.
June 23, 2007 at 12:50 am #27179Thank you Modulator Tom – am enjoying. This site has already worn me out! (That’s a good thing).
I wanted to mention – seeing if you know of it – and for the benefit of others, The Blackfoot Tribe holds a “culture camp” each year in October. It’s a bit pricey but might be up some folks’ alley (I’ve already done my tipi-dwelling & homesteading). If he’s still able, I’m sure Long Standing Brown Bear Chief (a name, not a title) is heading things up.
June 23, 2007 at 12:50 am #27186Dan ; I don’t know much Just a little of the lanugae and I would like to learn more . I am new to this site as well . I want to welcome you and let you know that I am glad you are here .
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paternal: Sechrest,Deese,Paul,Haithcock,Cassidy,Boone,Bone,Tolbert
maternal: Brown,Woods, Rogers
June 23, 2007 at 12:50 am #27187Rick Cassidy wrote: Dan ; I don’t know much Just a little of the lanugae and I would like to learn more . I am new to this site as well . I want to welcome you and let you know that I am glad you are here .
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paternal: Sechrest,Deese,Paul,Haithcock,Cassidy,Boone,Bone,Tolbert
maternal: Brown,Woods, Rogers
Rick – thanks, what a nice thought!
Now that I’ve got you on the phone, I’ve got to share this – first, I knew a DeWeese family growing up in Columbus OH.
Second, I’m new to my blood family – but have been told many stories … including about “our Indians”. Now, a few folks have a hard time understanding why I even give a darn about the family that “isn’t even living anymore” … and sometimes, so do I – but this dang inner-phone just keeps ringing and ringing so, I keep heading towards it.
Well, There were the Cherokee stories, there were the Blackfoot stories, there were the (please forgive) “squaw” stories. Last few days or so, I’ve been trying to get them clarified … keep getting this fragile resistance. Last night, was talking to my younger brother – he only had contact with the blood-family as a small child then, our mom moved my sibs away from them. He remembers our mother telling him, at different times, “Blackfoot and Shawnee”, “Cherokee and Pawnee” Cherokee and Blackfoot”. Last night was the first I’d heard of “Shawnee” – but he says Mom went “ditzy early” … I didn’t get to meet her and still can’t recall her from my broken infancy – but will take his word on that rather than ask the sisters because …. this “having family” thing is delicate ground – and I think whatever Mom had … they got it too … and they’re … funny about the info they share and don’t share.
Now, I’m probably a bit too old to learn a bunch of languages … especially well enough to converse – but now, on top of it all … perhaps I’d better consider picking up a touch of Shawnee as well. How the heck do I dress at Pow Wow??!!
And that’s how my day begins, Rick. Welcome to you as well – we’ll talk more around the fire. Peace. Dan
June 23, 2007 at 12:50 am #27188Dan : on looking at some of your line I have reconized a couple of names that I have seen in my searches of my blood line . So if I can and do find out any thing else I will be glad to post it. Have a Great day
June 23, 2007 at 12:50 am #27193O-si-yo O-gi-na-li!
Welcome. We have a few surnames in common. How did you wind up in Oregon?
BTW, my friend has a HEATHCO line, which we believe to be a variation of Haithcock. They wandered from NC to some flat states. ;~)
June 23, 2007 at 12:50 am #27194How the heck do I dress at Pow Wow??!!
May I recommend the “I’m part white, but I can’t prove it” t-shirt? hehe
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