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Hello Brenda
do you have any Information on the HOLLOWAY people,my great grandmother is SARAH HOLLOWAY she is listed in the 1900 federal census IN cass county Missiouri she was born in 1855 in INDIANA her mom and dad were both born in indiana according to the census.
She married SIMON RAINES ,Simon was born in dark county ohio in 1848.
Simon`s Dad is ELIJAH RAINES he was 28 years old in 1850 he listed as being born in ohio, Simon`s mothers name is REBECCA she was 21 in 1850 also born in ohio.
these two had three sons
SIMON RAINES
SARAH HOLLOWAY RAINES
John f
George a
Arthur
Arthur is my Grandfather on my moms side of the family he was born in 1890.
if anyone can help it would be appreciated
George
George,
In 1880, your Simon and Sarah Raines were in Ind.
1880 Wells Co., Ind Census, ED 147 Nottingham Twp, p.142B, 16 June, at 241, 241 :
Rains, Simon, 30, m, w, day laborer, Oh, Oh, Oh.
” , Sarah E., 25, f, w, Ind, Ind, Ind.
There were no Holloways found in 1880 Nottingham Twp, but in 1870 Wells Co., Ind Census, Nottingham Twp, p. 135B, 19 July, at 175, 162:
Holoway, Ann, 33, f, $2000, $400, Ind
” , Sarah E., 15, f, Ind. ****
” , Lydia R., 11, f, Ind.
” , John W., 8, m, Ind.
” , George E., 2, m, Ind.
The real estate and personal property values listed for Ann indicate to me that she is widowed.
Because I didn’t find anything in this Twp on previous census that related to the Holloways, I looked around and found a group of Holloways bunched together in 1860 Union Twp of Wells Co. The oldest was Pleasant Holloway, b.abt 1795 Va. He has a son named “Abijah” which shouts out that they are/were Quakers.
In 1850, Pleasant and other Holloways were in Stoney Creek Twp of Randolph Co., Ind, directly opposite Darke Co., Oh. That’s where I found Ann, Sarah & Lydia in 1860 Randolph Co., Ind Census, Stoney Creek Twp, p.640, 16 July, P.O.: Farmland, at 728, 752:
George Holoway, 28, m, farmer, $1000, $200, Ind.
Ann, 24, f, Ind.
Sarah E., 5, f, Ind.****
E. L., 3, m, Ind.
Lydia R., 1, f, Ind.
Next door is George’s brother John, 24, and their mother Elizabeth, 52, is living with John.
1850 Randolph Co., Ind Census, Stoney Creek Twp, p.10, 12 Sept, at 143, 143:
William Holloway, 42, m, farmer, $600, Va.
Betsey ” , 42, f, Ohio. (Elizabeth of 1860.)
George W. ” , 18, m, Ind. **** (Sarah E.’s father)
Hannah ” , 16, f, Ind.
John ” , 14, m, Ind.
Sarah ” , 82, f, Va (Nee: Stanley, per below.)
I found a well sourced family tree that connects William Holloway, b. 16 Feb 1808, Lynchburg, Campbell Co., Va. of Randolph Co., Ind where they moved to in 1827 from Highland Co., Ohio where they had been since 1820, where they had moved to in 1817 from Campbell Co., Va. The records take them back to 1735 NJ. Quaker records are pretty good and this guy has tracked this family as they moved from one Quaker Monthly Meeting to another.
This tree was entered by Jack Wilford, last updated 2002, email: 1072752.3043@compuserve.com
If you’re unable to raise him, let me know and I’ll forward the info to you.
Keep in mind that Quakers from Penn & NJ were “re-introduced” into Virginia by Lord Berkeley in 1732 and given land out in the backwoods to “improve”. As they had done in Penn., the Quakers started schools for Indians, “baptized them from a heathen race”, gave them “christian” names and married them themselves or married them to their children. This practice was widespread and was still being practiced in 1840 Indiana per Quaker records.
What documentation or family lore do you have that says Elijah is Simon A.’s father?
Bill
Hello Bill
Thanks Bill for all of this amazing research you did.
As far as Elijah Raines being Simon A Raines Father .
in the 1850 Fed Census DARK county OHIO,wabash township.
Elijah Raines, is listed as head of household ,he is 28 years old. Farmer.
Rebecca Raines, is listed as 21 years old female.
Malinda E Raines, is listed as a 4 year old female.
Simon A Raines, is listed 2 year old male.
Thanks again Bill
George
Simon, b. June 1848, 2 yr old son of Elijah, marr’d Margarette Josephine McCarty in Jay Co., Ind in 1872 per the Darke County Ohio Historical Society and Indiana State Library Marriage Record database. I don’t think this is your Simon because a check of the 1900 (source of the June 1848 birthdate) and 1920 Indiana census for Jay Co shows him still there with the same wife. This may sound like I’m quibbling, but your Simon was born May 1849 per the 1900 Cass Co census. We know Sarah Holloway’s family had been Quakers and I think George Holloway’s family was still and that’s why his marriage to Ann is not on State Records and that could be the reason that Simon and Sarah’s marriage is not recorded in State Records. Quakers didn’t do that. I’ll see if I can find them in the Quaker “Encyclopedia”. Been meaning to do that and didn’t get to it yet.
There’s another Simon Raines on the 1850 Highland Co (ring any bells??)., Union Twp, Ohio census. This Simon’s age is listed as “1/12” (?) yrs old in 1850 but that may be incorrect.
This Simon is at 2307, 2311:
Allan Raines, 30, m, farmer, $500, Ohio.
Hannah ” , 28, f, Ohio.
Mary A. ” , 9, f, Oh.
Prisilla ” , 6, f, Oh.
Joab ” , 3, m, Oh.
Simon ” , 1/12 (?), Oh.
Milton ” , 14, m, Oh.
I found this Simon in 1870 working for a Thomas Jarvis (?), 36, b.Ohio, but can’t account for Simon in any other year, leading me to the possibility that he’s the Simon with Sarah in 1880 Wells Co., Ind. I don’t really “know” at this point, I’m still looking.
Bill
Hey Bill
I don`t know for a fact that Elijah is Simons Father based on the 1900 Fed Census Cass county ,Dayton Township,Missiouri
it lists Simon Raines His wife and three sons,which based on what my mom told me is accurate,so I went to the ohio census {1850} which would be the first Census Simon would show up in,and he was the only Simon raines at that age to be in the census that I found?
Based on your research sounds like ALLAN Raines is Simons dad.
Also the Raines/Hollways did live in the wells county Indiana area .my mom remembers having to go and visit with the Holloways when she was a kid.Theres not much oral history on my moms side of the family,according to my mom her dad Arthur Rains WOULD NOT talk about his heritage.
thanks
George
George,
I’m still digging. Found your line of Holloways in the “Encyclopedia of Quaker Genealogy” and the movement dates check with what the Wilford guy lists as his tree sources. You might want to contact him to provide a check on what I dig up.
Bill
Hello Bill
I sent him an e-mail,still waiting to hear from him,its only been a couple of days.
George
Records of South River (Va) MM (Campbell Co., Va.) :
Holloway: (dates are stated in Yr, Mo, Day order)
(They used a lot of arcane abbreviations, so I’ll complete some words and phrases in parenthesis.)
“1790, 7, 19. William, late of Bedford Co., Va., M(arried) at South River MM, Sarah Stanley, (of) Bedford Co., Va.
(a later entry lists :
“Ch(ildren):
John, b.1791, 5, 1.
Isaac, b.1792, 5, 19.
Betsey, b.1793, 9, 17.
Pleasant, b.1795, 4, 23.
Samuel, b.1797, 9, 12.
George, b.1800, 8, 3.”
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Fairfield MM (Highland Co., Ohio) Records:
“1809, 8, 26. Thomas, recf (received from) Hopewell MM (Ohio), dtd (dated) 1809, 3, 6.” (the earlier date is probably the date of the certificate from Hopewell MM allowing him to leave, which he turned in to his new MM group.)
“1809, 2, 25. Elizabeth [Halloway] recf Hopewell MM dtd 1808, 8, 1.”
“1810, 4, 28. George [Halloway] recf Hopewell MM dtd 1809, 4, 3.” (Another George, not William and Sarah “Sally”‘s son. Could be William sr.’s brother or uncle.)
“1811, 9, 28. George dis mcd. (George dismissed because he “married contrary to discipline” – when he married, he didn’t follow the accepted formalities observed by Quakers, so they kicked him out. There’s no wife’s name, so she was not a Quaker.)
“1812, 11, 28. William & w(ife) Sally & ch(ildren) John, Isaac, Betsy Pleasant, Samuel, George, Sally & William, recf (received from) South River MM, Va., dtd 1812, 8, 8.”
“1813, 12, 25. Thomas dis disunity. (Thomas dismissed after a disagreement.)
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Lee’s Creek MM (Ohio) Records:
“1817, 9, 20. William & w. Sarah & ch. Issac, Elizabeth, Pleasant, Samuel, George, Sarah & Wm. recf Clear Crk MM, Oh., dtd 1817, 8, 9.”
“1818, 1, 17. Elizabeth [Hollaway] rmt Joab Thornborough.”
(rmt = some form of marriage process. Thornborough bcame Thornburg on later census records.)
“1819, 10, 18. Isaac [Holoway] Con Mcd. (Isaac is considering marrying contrary to discipline.)
“1820, 3, 18. John [Holloway] & s(on) Joab recf Newberry MM dtd 1820, 2, 24.”
“1821, 12, 15. Pleasant [Holaway] dis m.o.u.” (he was dismissed for marrying out of unity – he married a non-quaker because her name is not mentioned as having been “disciplined”.)
(and we thought the Marines/Army were tough !! )
“1822, 5, 18. Issac [Holoway] dis disunity.” (dismissed after a disagreement.)
“1823, 11, 15. Samuel dis mcd.” (also married contrary to discipline.)
“1823, 11, 15. George dis mcd.”
“1824, 2, 21. John & ch. get Fairfield MM.” (“get” = permitted to go.)
“1826, 10, 21. Wm. & fam. get Springfield MM, Ind.”
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I’ll see if I can find more of the children in Lee’s Crk MM records and try locating the Springfield MM, Ind., records.
Bill
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