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Brenda,
Located several Williams in early WVa from Rev. War Pension applications. None look specifically like Hugh’s father due to dates, but may be related or at least help you separate several lines in early WVa. I’ll abstract some info here:
Robert WILLIAMS, enlisted as Private, 3rd Virginia Regiment in Hampshire Co., Va (WVa), spring of 1779. Rec’d pension in 1818, Hampshire Co.
Jeremiah WILLIAMS, b. Feb 14, 1761 Cumberland Co., Pa, d. Feb 6, 1845 in Tyler Co., Va., now Marshall Co., WVa., buried Williams Cem. near New Martinsville.
Was “Son of Lewis WILLIAMS and probably Eleanor SHELBY”.
Enlisted June 1778. Served Mar 1780 or 1781 as Indian Spy under Lt. James MARSHALL.
Later years – served under David SHEPHERD, Lt. of Ohio County, as a spy between Ft. Henry, Wheeling and Fort Hamar, Marietta, Ohio.
Was one of the 1st settlers of now Wetzel Co., WVa in 1791, purchasing the farm of Adam ROWE, who was driven out by Indians.
On June 7, 1798, married Mary EWART.
Listed as head of household when he rec’d pension: “The Soldiery of West Virginia, West Virginians Who Were Soldiers & Pensioners in the Rev. War”, p.109, “Names of Pensioners of the Rev. War, Tyler Co.”, he was age 79 (b.abt.1761) as of June 1, 1840. Description of Service: Penn. Militia. (place he served was claimed by Virginia at that time.)
Placed on Pension Rolls: May 6, 1833.
Pension started: Mar 4, 1831, age 73. (contradictory date?)
Annual Allowance: $48.33.
Sums Rec’d: $149.99.
Paid pension in 1844 Tyler Co. Supporting data filed in this case by Rev. J. RIPLEY, William WELLS, Ann ANKROM (nee: EWART), sister of Mary EWART WILLIAMS, Francis COLLINS, Sampson THISTLE.
Ch: Lewis, Frances, Mary, Jeremiah Jr., Elizabeth, Francis, Eleanor, Harrison, Shelby, Ann, Evan, Mary & Rachel.
Daniel WILLIAMS, b. 1753 Wales; settled on Western Frontier; marr’d Mary Ann BOLTON (ALDRIDGE), b. London; They had one child, Chloe, d.1841, no children.
Isaac WILLIAMS, B.1737 Chester Co., Pa, d. Sept 25, 1820 Wood Co., WVa. Marr’d Rebecca TOMLINSON, dau of Joseph TOMLINSON. List of children available. Settled 1787 Williamstown, Wood Co., on land preempted in 1770 by Joseph TOMLINSON & his children Joseph, Samuel & Rebecca who married WILLIAMS. [If I recall correctly, these Tomlinson’s connect to Cindy’s people (see Techteach).]
Gabriel WILLIAMS, marr’d Margaret (Williams), June 22, 1784. Rec’d pension 1819, age 63 in Monongalia Co., d. Nov 20, 1827.
List of children available.
Henry WILLIAMS, b. Feb 14, 1762, Essex Co., NJ.
Served Rev. War, Private, 2nd NJ Regiment, commanded by Col. SPENCER & Col. SUMMINS.
Marr’d Dec 26, 1786, Sarah FAIRCHILD, b.1768; d. 1839.
Invalid’s Pension rec’d 1831 & 1833 in Monongalia Co., Va (WVa).
Two later Wills from Harrison Co:
Cornelius WILLIAMS, Will 6-22-1833 names wife and children.
William WILLIAMS, Will 11-1843, names wife & children.
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Earlier references :
Took Oath of Allegiance to Pa, “Jan 27, 1779, Jeremiah WILLIAMS, on oath proves that he did take the test before me, in 1777.”, per “Persons Who Took the Oath of Allegiance to Pa., Second Book 1778-1787, p. 56.
“1782 Fairfax Co., Va Census, p.17:
Jere WILLIAMS, 10, 07.”
“1782 Surry Co., Va Census, p.43:
Jeremiah WILLIAMS, 03-00.”
“1782 – 1787 Virginia Tax Payers:
Jeremiah WILLIAMS, 1, 0. Montgomery Co., Va.”
“1782 – 1787 Virginia Tax Payers:
Neremiah (sic?) WILLIAMS, 1, 0. Washington Co., Va.”
“1788 Northwest Terr. Census, p.228: Jeremiah WILLIAMS.”
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Bill and Brenda:
I just checked my Carpenter genealogy. Isaac Williams is indeed listed as husband of Rebecca Tomlinson. Rebecca’s sister, Drusilla, married my 5th great-grandfather, John Carpenter. Rebecca and Drusilla were daughters of Joseph Tomlinson and Rebecca Swearingen.
Cindy
It appears there’s more to this story than meets our modern eyes. More research needs to be done on this connection.
Bill and Cindy,
Today I was sent a link to some Williams material found on ancestry.com. This is why I am fighting an uphill battle. There is soooo much misinformation out there and when I question it or ask for documentation or source they get upset. They are bound that there is NO indian blood in the Williams or Spencer lines but they don’t have anything to back up what they have posted. Most of them are basing their facts on a WILL in Greenbrier or Augusta County where James MORROW died and left a rifle to his grandson ,James Spencer. They have no marriage record, nothing to prove that that James , grson of James Morrow, was my gr gr gr grandfather.
The Spencer & Williams names interlink and down the ancestry page is information on the Williams but I have not verified any of this.
Perhaps if we work together this is one line we can sort out.
Brenda
Brenda,
This is one that has a “preponderance of evidence” in its favor and a lot of garbage info, and fear thereof, holding us off. Can you get that Library of Virginia private publication of “Early Spencers in Virginia” , which is cited as the source for this info? The truth or falacy lies in that publication.
With the documentation I’ve seen, there’s a lot of congruence in the Greenbrier people and the Prince Edward people with an Albermarly County connection in between that I msg’d you about earlier.
Smoke is fire. This is not “just a coincidence”.
Bill
check out Collins surnames surrounding the Williams family way back then…………
Name: Jeremiah WILLIAMS
Sex: M
Birth: ABT 1750 in Wales
Death: MAY 1824 in Giles County, Virginia
Burial: MAY 1824 Mountain Lake, Virginia
Reference Number: 13266
Note:
Jeremiah received a Land Grant in 1783 of 100 acres on the north side of
Doe Creek as assignee of Micheal Drake. Doe Creek is close to Pembroke
and is a creek that comes from the present Mountain Lake Resort. Later
he received an addition grant of 35 and 60 acres in the same area. The
Montgomery County 1788-1799 Personal Property Tax, lists Jeremiah with 6
horses and no slaves. In 1791, 46 acres on the west side of land he
lived on were recorded in Montgomery County Survey Book D.
Jeremiah’s will dated May 7, 1819 but was not proven until March 30,
1824, leaves 1/3 of his estate to his wife Mary during her natural life.
“To my son Adram (Abraham) Williams $1
To my son John Williams $1
To my son David Williams $1
To my son in law Randal Lucas $1
To my son in law John Rice $1
To my son Alexander Williams widow Lisha $1
To my son Andrew Williams a tract of land joining the land of Joseph
Williams, Jacob Albert, Christian Smith, Randall Lucas and David Collins.
To my son Joseph Williams a tract of land joining the land of Randal
Lucas, Collins corner and Albert’s corner.
To my sons Hugh and James Williams all the rest of my land.
To Margaret and Rebecca Williams my Daughters all my personal property,
household furniture and kitchen furniture except on horse to James
Williams my son.”
He appointed his friends Christian Snidow, Sr., George Williams, Jr.
executors and signed the will with his “X.”
William Porterfield and Eliza Williams his witnesses.
Hugh and Joseph sold 100 acres to James White, the same that was deeded
in part to the said Joseph Williams by Jeremiah Williams on the 5th day
of May 1836 in Giles County, Virginia
Bill, I emailed Kimball G. Everingham this afternoon and I am waiting for any comments he might have. As for the Rigsby Book. I haven’t seen it but have communicated with a man that has all three of his volumes. He says he has found many mistakes in the book and he doesn’t think it has ever been revised.
As for the book,I will try to get it up here on interlibrary loan. I just roughly went through the site I sent you and most of the work posted is my research but I wouldn’t place it on the internet because half of it is not proven. I only document my Spencer line back to James Spencer because I honestly don’t know who his father is. I only suspect it is a man who has Indian blood running through his vains per the Military record.
Brenda
It’s a at least a lead. I haven’t looked thru all my stuff for Thomas m’d Marrow but it sure sounds familiar from my earlier Spencer searches on my line. I’ll see what I can pin down tomorrow. I’m cooked for today.
Bill
From what I gather, the connection between the Tomlinsons and Carpenters is built on the same kind of indirect evidence. No one has found a record of the marriage of the two, John Carpenter and Drusilla Tomlinson, but they have found enough that has led many researchers to believe it. Most is based on a comment from somewhere that Tomlinson’s nephew, Robert Carpenter, was captured by Indians but escaped and the fact that the families named their children the same. That incident ended up in an Eckert book.
I have come to think that there is likely some native on that side of the family too now, but mostly because the Greens, who were definitely mixed, named so many of their children Van Swearingen.
If I run across anything, I will keep it posted. Not too many Spencers in the Carpenter genealogy, but several Spences.
Cindy
Brenda and Bill:
I do not know if this is of any help, but my Green genealogy lists Mary Butt as marrying one John Spencer on Aug. 12, 1826 in Berkeley County, VA. The Butts are one of the prominent names among my mixed Green line. I cannot tell, because there is no birthdate listed for Mary’s mother, Dinah, but her mother might have been Drusilla Harris. Interesting – I am now noticing things that meant little to me when I read this at first – a Green will that was Xed by Dinah Green, witnessed by one of those interesting incidences of the name Swearingen in my Green family, one Swearingen Ray, who signs an x and marries into the family, Richard Butt, and Thomas Swearingen. This is part of my smoke, especially now knowing that Thomas Swearingen was related to my Carpenters.
Anyway, don’t know if this is helpful.
Cindy
Here is a link to a cousins Williams information.
http://www.wmmartin.com/html/williams_family.html
Nicholas County 1820 Census:
William Williams’ household had 2 males under 10; 1 male 26-45; 1 female
16-26.
Hugh Williams’ household had 3 males under 10; 1 male over 45; 2 females
10-16; 1 female 16-26; 1 female 26-45.
Nicholas County 1830 Census:
Hugh Williams’ household had 1 male 10-15; 1 male 15-20; 1 male over 60;
1 female over 60.
William Williams’ household had 2 males under 5; 1 male 5-10; 1 male
10-15; 1 male 30-40; 1 female 30-40.
Nicholas County 1840 Census:
Andrew Williams household had 1 male 20-30; 1 female 15-20.
Hugh Williams household had 1 male over 60; 1 female over 60.
Alex Williams household had 1 male under 5; 1 male 20-30; 2 females
under 5; 1 female 20-30.
Robert Williams household had 1 male 20-30; 1 female 15-20.
Elizha Williams household had 2 males 15-20; 2 females 10-15; 1 female
40-50.
John Williams household had 1 male 20-30; 1 male 40-50; 1 male 50-60; 1
female 15-20; 2 females 20-30
There are 2 William Williams households on the 1840 Census:
(1) William Williams household had 2 males 30-40; 2 females under 5; 1
female 5-10; 1 female 15-20; 1 female 40-50.
(2) William Williams household had 1 male under 5; 2 males 5-10; 2 males
10-15; 1 male 30-40; 2 females 15-20; 1 female 40-50.
my line:
4. JOHN JONES4 WILLIAMS (WILLIAM3, HUGH2, JEREMIAH1) was born 1826 in Nicholas Co. WVa., and died Bef. 1880 in Nicholas Co. WVa.. He married ELIZABETH JANE NUTTER June 13, 1847 in Nicholas Co. WV, daughter of HANNAH NUTTER. She was born 1830 in Va., and died in Nicholas Co WVa..Hannah Nutter was d/o David Nutter.
1. Christopher NUTTER was born between 1636 and 1640 in Lancaster, Lancashire County, England. He died in 1702 in Somerset County, Maryland. Most records indicate his name as only Christopher. His last will and testament starts off as “In the name of God, Amen, I one Christopher Nutter, of Somerset County, in the province of Maryland…”. According to Wirt Co. History: The earliest Nutter’s in America, to which we feel we can tie our line, start with William (Christopher) Nutter, born l636 to l640 (Note: In a deposition concerning Thomas Leatherberry dated November 1662, Christopher stated his age was about 22) in England and came to Northhampton Co., Va. l662. He moved to a farm near Princess Anne in Somerset County in the Manokin Section of Maryland in l665, where he owned land on Manokin River. He and many of his descendants are buried at the Old Manokin Church in Princess Anne, Maryland. Christopher married Mary Dorman in l666. According to 8/2/1662 court record Christopher carried Mary Dorman, a servant, away from a John Custis with the intent to marry her. He should have posted a bond first and was therefore remanded to the sheriff. Their 10th child was Matthew, born l685 and died l720. He was a landowner, surveyor, and an interpreter with the Indians of Maryland area. Before he died l703, he willed tracts of land to his daughter, Sarah Piper, and his five living sons: Christopher, Charles, Matthew, William, and John M. Nutter. (William and Mary had another son John who died in infancy). William Christopher Nutter must have owned many slaves since his will bequeathed them to his children.
In l766 Matthew, together with Christopher, John M., Thomas, and Thomas’ son Christopher, moved to Augusta County, Virginia, where they lived until l769, then removed to Fayette Co., Pa. In 1772, they removed to West Augusta, now Harrison County, WV.
Matthew and Elizabeth Nutter lived about the mouth of Simpson Creek area. Their children: David, married (1) Ruth Cottrill, married (2) Christina O’Dell; John, married Mary Mount; William married Mary Starr; Matthew N., married Affa Webb; Levi, married Magdalene Webb; Thomas, married Mary Cottrill; Magdalene, married Jacob Martin; and Barthsheba, married (1) Jacob Martin, (2) William Linsey.
Isaac, Levi, Thomas, John (brothers) were the first settlers of Cairo vicinity. In l8l8, they settled at different locations. Isaac finally went to Indiana, in l856. Levi was a pioneer on the well-known “Nutter Farm.” Thomas went to Athens, Ohio. John moved to Richardsonville (now Richardson, Calhoun Co., WV).
—————Submitted by Madeline Harris McCormick
He was married to Mary DORMAN on 14 Mar 1663/64 in Northampton County, Virginia. (1) Mary DORMAN was born about
Hi! I was reading along and spotted the Tomlinson you all had brought up. I thought I’d seen it somewhere. I don’t know if it pertains, and I don’t think it would be a direct link to Kerry and I but on Kerry’s Statton thread, we have;
iv. Capt. Frederick Staton b. 1772, edgcombe Co., NC; d.January 29, 1864, wadesboro, Anson Co., NC; m(1) Sally Tomlinson; m. (2) Sally Tomlinson; m.(3) Priscilla Coburn, Abt. 1797.
So I don’t know if it’s anything you needed, but i thought I’d stick it here just in case.;)
If anyone has time, jump over to that Staton thread and let me know if you have any historical info on the areas of the 3rd generation of Statons. We no nothing about history!:o Love & Light, Lynella. And good luck with your Williams’ and all.
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