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December 11, 2003 at 10:06 pm #791
Just thought I would post this URL. Has several surnames that we have seen on this forum (not counting mine): http://www.npls.org/lcgs/lostpioneer.htm The web site has some information too if you see something that looks familiar. I saw some of these folks in the cemetery that my Blackfoot ancestor is buried in.
Cindy
December 11, 2003 at 10:06 pm #8383Hello Cindy well just as lark I clicked on the site, I did not expect to find anyone of my family there, but who knew that 2 of them would be or atleast 2 with either the same name or someonelse with the same handle. This might fill in those missing years!?
December 11, 2003 at 10:06 pm #8384There is a Samuel Patterson on that list also. I have been looking for a Samuel Patterson who is the father of my Abigail Patterson who married John Perry. Abigail & John are buried in Washington County, Ohio.
Brenda
December 11, 2003 at 10:06 pm #8385Here’s another URL where some of these people appear:
http://www.a-c-o-m.com/genealogy1.htm
Somehow, Brenda, I ended up following a genealogy up to John Alden. Haven’t you said that you descend from him? Not sure how I did it, whether it was off Licking County or the above URL or some other web site on the Cooley Webring, but I did follow one of those Licking County names to him.
Cindy
December 11, 2003 at 10:06 pm #8386Yes Cindy,
My children are Mayflower descendants from the lines of Samson, Standish, Alden, and Mullins. The Samson was changed to Sampson late 1700’s but the family really never left this area. Henry Samson was the 14 yr old cabin boy on the Mayflower and the kids descend from his cousin Abraham Samson.
1. ABRAHAM1 SAMSON was born August 14, 1615 in Compton, Bedfordshire, England, and died 1690 in Duxbury, Ma. He married HESTER NASH 1645 in Plymouth, Ma.
2. ISAAC SR.2 SAMSON (ABRAHAM1) was born 1660 in Duxbury, Ma, and died 1726 in Plympton, Ma. He married LYDIA STANDISH, daughter of ALEXANDER STANDISH and SARAH ALDEN.
Of course John Alden was married to Priscilla Mullens and Myles Standish was married to sisters Rose & Barbara but surname to the sisters has never been found.
December 11, 2003 at 10:06 pm #8399TechTeach, were there any Smith’s in that cemetery who are also in Licking County? Did you also have family in western Indiana?
December 11, 2003 at 10:06 pm #8402Tom:
There are probably some of your Hardins at this URL http://www.rootsweb.com/~iajackso/Cem/EastIron.html . You know, I am sure we will connect sooner or later (not that I did not find a Jackson County Hardin in my mom’s genealogy, but there are probably earlier ones) . I know that I have several of those “lost” Licking County names in my line, Sinkey (he was my gggrandfather), Buell, Gilmore, Potter, Willison, Green, Edwards. If you explore other cemetaries on that Jackson County Historical site, look for the cemeteries in these areas: Brandon, Farmer’s Creek, Emeline, Monmouth, and Maquoketa. That is the location where I recognize many of the names that are listed as being buried in these cemeteries.
Cindy
December 11, 2003 at 10:06 pm #8403Linda:
I am not sure if there are Smiths or not. I would not doubt it a bit. Wish I could make a trip back there again, although they just got a big snowstorm that missed us, so it probably is hard to see anything. There are lots of Smiths in my line who marry in Licking County and end up in Jackson County, Iowa. My own uncle was named Smith and, while I grew up thinking of him as the man who married my mother’s sister, several months ago, I had deduced that he was likely also some kind of distant cousin. I checked the other cemeteries that I steered Tom to in my previous post, but I did not see Smiths there either, but if you looked at those “lost” pioneer names in Licking County, I know many of them ended up in Iowa. I double-checked my pictures for Asa Cooley and he is buried in that cemetery, as is his wife. I would go so far as saying that virtually the entire cemetery except for new headstones, are names that I am familiar with.
I don’t know if I have family in western Indiana. The direct line that I know is mixed came from PA and Berkeley County, WV to Licking County, OH and then to Iowa. However, the Rhodes line moved all over. I believe that they are somehow connected but it is difficult to prove this. They went from Fort Wayne, IN to Portage, OH to Newcomerstown and then to Peoria, IL. My gggrandmother was a Rhoads and there are Rhodes in that cemetery. My ggrandmother taught school there while her family lived in IL. There must be some kind of family connection to bring a single woman out to live in another state away from her family in IL. Anyway, the whole kit and kaboodle ended up in that little area, including Smiths. Do you have any Greens? I found the Smiths in the Green genealogy that one of my distant cousins sent me.
Cindy
December 11, 2003 at 10:06 pm #8413No, I don’t have Greens. My husband has Greens. Those are the people in Greentown, within the bounds of the old Fort Christanna.
My Elizabeth Smith was married 1816 in Ross, Ohio, to John Ulm. There’s a John Smith in Ross at that time, I believe, we think may have been her father. That’s as far back as we can go with the Smiths.
John Ulm was born in Berkeley County, (presently) WV. His mother was Naomi, no last name, his father, Mathias Ulm. The Ulms were usually very well documented, (good Lutherans, there are church records of them all the way back to the 1500’s in Germany. In terms of paper volume they dominate the family tree book) But there’s very little mention of Mathias and Naomi.
Their son and daughter-in-law, Elizabeth and John Ulm, lived in Sullivan, IN, had children there, but moved across the border to Wabash, IL by 1832, when my Ellen Ulm was born. She married Thomas Harris, who died 1861, before she moved on to Vernon County, WI Their son, Francis Marion Harris, was my great grandfather.
The Harrises were from Chambersburg, PA , Tuscarora Path Valley and left about 1830. There were in Ohio for awhile, but we don’t know where. They show up in Wabash, IL around 1852.
December 11, 2003 at 10:06 pm #8415Linda:
There are two Harris’ on the Green family tree that I was sent by a cousin who descends from the Greens through the Butts (My direct line comes from a Regnald Green from Berkeley County, WVA.). One, Drusilla Harris, marries an Archibald Butt in Berkeley County in 1790. She and another couple of cousins I have emailed feel that they were mixed. In is interesting to note that Archibald and Drusilla had a daughter named Dorcas, nicknamed Darky. They all went to Licking County with the Berkely County bunch.
Also a Nathan Harris who was born in Jackson County, IA who is listed as marrying into the line in 1896.
Cindy
December 11, 2003 at 10:06 pm #8416And no Ulms on any tree.
Cindy
December 11, 2003 at 10:06 pm #8473Cindy,
I ran across considerable Berkeley Co, Va data in Genealogical Library.
Do you have Regnal Green’s parents as William Green and Dinah _?_ . Found in a Will abstract listing Wm & Dinah’s children. Also have Regnal Green marrying Sarah Butt on Jan 15, 1788 Berkeley Co plus 22 other Green marriages and a list of Butt – didn’t count them, but most married Greens 🙂 . Then…… Regnal sues the heirs of Charles Green (remember him?), over several tracts of land in Licking Co in 1829 which gets all the heirs’ names listed. You mentioned having some info on Berkeley Co, let me know how much of this you want.
I can’t find your Rhodes info – were you looking for a Joseph Rhodes ?
Bill
December 11, 2003 at 10:06 pm #8477Bill:
I just looked at “The Green Tree.” I need to review the stuff I went through before all the information you found for me! I do have William and his wife, Dinah and guess where they moved to Berkeley County from – Lancaster County, PA, surprise, surprise! The author makes the arguement that he thinks Dinah was a Darke, as in related to the Darke that was the general for whom Darke County, OH was named.
I do have a note about William’s will that lists the children. I also have Regnald’s children and most of the spouses. He is believed to have married Sarah Duncan, daughter of Matthew Duncan of PA and Kentucky, in addition to Sarah Butt and one other one, I think. Sarah Duncan would have been the mother of Elizabeth, my ggggrandmother.
I am looking for the suit you mention but have not found it yet. Robert Green lists these types of things if he found it. He goes through the generations of the children of William for several generations and includes information like wills, indentures, and exerpts from oral and written history. However, if you want to list the names in the Licking County suit, I can’t find this. The land that Charles bought was a Wyandot town called Raccoontown that was still occupied when they purchased the land.
Cindy
December 11, 2003 at 10:06 pm #8478Genealogy.com’s “Ohio Vital Records” database: “Gateway to The West”, Vol. 1, Licking Co Partition Records, 1816-1830, p.731 :
“6-5-1829 – Regnal Green vs. heirs of Charles Green, dec’d. Filed 1-12-1829. Land, two tracts – 160 acres SW corner Lot 33, Section 1, Twp 3, Range 15, U.S. Military Tract deeded by George Green to Charles Green on 2-15-1810 and recorded in Deed Book B, page 300, also Section 4, Twp 3, Range 15, U.S. Military Tract.
Children: Rebecca late Green, wife of Jessee Hile, Regnal Green, George Green, Ammon Green, Clarinda Green, William Green, Sarah Green and Ellen Green; the last named being a minor.”
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Re: Joseph Rhodes – you also have a Smith, don’t you?
Genealogy.com’s – “Ohio Vital Records” database: “Gateway to The West”, Vol. 1, Highland Co., Ohio – Deed Records:
“ROADS, Heirs of George to John SMITH – 9-20-1823 – George Roads and Rachel his wife of Preble Co., Ohio;
Abraham Roads; Jacob Roads; Joseph Roads;
Andrew Lear and Caty his wife, late Roads;
James Doherty and Susannah his wife, late Roads;
Wm. Titsworth and Elizabeth his wife, late Roads;
Jacob Slow and Mary his wife, late Roads;
Peter Houseman and Peggy his wife, late Roads;
all of Highland County, children and heirs of George Roads, deceased. Part of Survey # 2335, Vol. P., p.471.”
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December 11, 2003 at 10:06 pm #8488Bill:
Thanks a lot. I am not sure of the Rhoads/Rhodes information, whether or not they are connected, but I will hang onto the information. My information on the Rhoads comes from my great-aunt’s memoir, so I only have the direct line. The first Joseph Rhoads was born near Spencerville, IN on Jan 13, 1816. He married Rebecca Brown, born on Aug. 22, 1815 in Sayersville, OH (but I think this birthplace must not be right. I found Sayersville in Kentucky, not OH.) on Dec. i5, 1835. Joseph died (no date) in Newcomerstown, OH. They had Jacob, Isaac, Mary Jane, Eleanor Elizabeth (my gggrandmother), George Washington, Joseph M., John, Andrew Jackson, and Henry Frank. I have dates on these children. Joseph M. marries Filura Smith on April 7, 1871. Many of these families end up in Peoria, IL. I am sure that they are connected to the rest of the bunch, not only because you found Rhodes near the PA and Licking County groups, but also because there are old Rhodes headstones near everyone else in the cemetery I visited. My ggrandmother was a school teacher in this area, too, and I would think it would be strange for a single lady to leave Peoria and settle in Jackson County, IA without some kind of connection there. That is the only information I have, besides the Rhodes you have found and a genealogy at Familysearch.
Cindy
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