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The Collins’s of Russell Co., Va are those who came out of NC to Tenn and moved into S.W. Va., and those who came from Giles Co., Va with the White, Harmon, Williams, Bradley group. Of course, we know that the NC Collins originally came from an area of Va close to Giles Co.
1850 Russell Co., Va Census, District 54,
p.283A, at 879 :
John A. COLLINS, 29, m, – , Giles Co., Va.
Sarah, 22, f, – , Washington Co., Va.
Mary C., 5/12, f, – , Russell Co., Va.
Barsheba HUNT, 12, f, – , Russell Co.
Mary HORTENSTINE, 63, f, – , Washington Co., Va.
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p.291B, at 1003:
Moses GOFF, 49, m, B, laborer, $0, Buckingham Co., Va.
Delila, 43, f, Mu, Rockingham Co., Va.
Henry, 10, m, B, Tazewell Co., Va.
John, 3, m, B, Tazewell Co., Va.
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p.292A, at 1007:
Benson CROSS, 49, m, – , Rockingham Co., Va.
Lydia, 46, f, – , NC
+ 9 kids. 1 b.Tenn, 1 b. Washington Co., Va, 7 b.Russell Co., Va.
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p.292B, at 1011:
David WHITE, 23, m, – , Giles Co., Va.
Delila, 24, f, – , Russell Co., Va.
+ 2 kids b.Russell Co.
at 1012:
Burgis COLLINS, 54, m, – , Giles Co., Va.
Mary, 40, f, – , Buckingham Co., Va.
Malvina, 27, f, – , Giles Co., Va.
at 1013:
Ephraim BRADLEY, 39, m, – , Giles Co., Va.
Hannah, 45, f, – , Giles Co.
Lewis, 21, m, – , Giles Co.
Nancy A., f, – , Smythe Co., Va.
John A., 16, m, – , Smythe Co.
William H., 15, m, – , Smythe Co.
Mary Jane, 13, f, – , Russell Co., Va.
Clary E., 11, f, – , Russell Co.
at 1014:
Levi WHITE, 35, m, – , Giles Co., Va.
Rachel, 37, f, – , Giles Co.
Lavinia J., 10, f, – , Giles Co.
Henly C., 4, m, – , Giles Co.
Nancy A. L. C., 2, f, – , Russell Co., Va.
at 1015:
Thomas WHITE, 64, m, – , Giles Co., Va.
Agnes, 45, f, – , Giles Co.
+ 5 kids, all b. Giles Co.
at 1016:
William HOLLOWAY, 39, m, – , NC
Elisabeth, 38, f, – , Grayson Co., Va.
Polly Jane, f, – , NC.
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p.323A, at 1427:
Alexander COLLINS, 34, m, – , laborer, $0, Tenn.
Elisabeth, 28, f, – , Tenn.
Melinda, 10, f, -, Tenn.
John, 7, m, – , Tenn.
Eliza, 5, f, – , Tenn.
Amanda, 2, f, – , Tenn.
at 1428:
Nathan PERRY, 42, m, – , farmer, $0, NC
Mary, 29, f, – , Tenn.
Mathew, 18, m, – , Tenn.
Levi, 15, m, – , Tenn.
William, 12, m, – , Tenn.
Nancy, 10, f, – , Tenn.
Polly, 9, f, – , Tenn.
Caroline, 4, f, -, Tenn.
Sally, 1, f, – , Russell Co., Va.
at 1429:
Griffin COLLINS, 77, m, – , none, $0, NC (born abt.1773)
Massie, 77, f, – , NC
Nancy ROBINSON, 52, f, – , NC
Betsey COLLINS, 33, f, – , NC
at 1430:
Rial COLLINS, 28, m, – , laborer, $0, Tenn.
Emelie, 25, f, – , Tenn.
Patsey, 1, f, -, Russell Co., Va.
(Rial Collins Sr lived in 1850 Lee Co., Va and was born in Hawkins/Hancock Co., Tenn.)
at 1443:
Joseph CAUDILL, 32, m, – , Laborer, $0, Wythe Co Va.
Martha, 22, f, – , Russell Co.,Va.
at 1453:
Jeremiah BOWLIN, 40, m, – , laborer, Russell Co., Va.
Provinence, 37, f, – , NC.
+ 6 kids b. Russell Co., Va.
at 1454:
Jeremiah BOWLIN, 67, m, – , laborer, SC.
Sarah, 64, f, – , SC.
at 1455:
Jessee BOWLIN, 22, m, – , Russell Co., Va.
Louisa, 19, Ky.
at 1456:
Edmund BOWLIN, 22, m, – , Russell Co., Va.
Susannah, 18, f, – , Ky.
+ 2 kids b. Russell Co.
at 1457:
Amos BOWLIN, 36, m, – , Basked Maker, $0, Russell Co., Va.
Polly, 28, f, – , Russell Co.
+ 4 kids b. Russell Co.
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p.248A, at 404:
Griffin COLLINS, 54, m, -, farmer, $0, NC
Matilda, 40, f, – , NC.
Polly, 20, f, – , Tenn.
Andrew, 18, m, – , Tenn.
Mourning, 17, f, – , Tenn.
Lewis, 16, m, – , Tenn.
Griffin, 15, m, – , Tenn.
Matilda, 13, f, -, Lee Co., Va.
Berry, 11, m, – , Lee Co.
David, 9, m, -, Lee Co.
Aaron, 8, m, – , Lee Co.
Caleb, 6, m, – , Russell Co., Va.
Joshua, 6, m, – , Russell Co.
Enoch, 4, m, – , Russell Co.
Ruth, 11/12, f, – , Russell Co.
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p.258A, at 535 :
Edward COLLINS, 34, m, – , laborer, $0, Russell Co., Va.
Elizabeth, 34, f, – , Russell Co.
George W., 10, m, – , Russell Co.
John, 9, m, – , Russell Co.
Edward, 6, m, – , Russell Co.
Mary J., 4, f, – , Russell Co.
William, 2, m, – , Russell Co.
Nancy, 1/12, f, – , Russell Co.
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p.267A, at 655:
Nelly WORMSLEY, 24, f, -, Russell Co.
Matilda H., 5, f, -, Russell Co.
Judith, 4, f, – , Russell Co.
Oscar L. COLLINS, 12, m, – , Russell Co.
Sarah COLLINS, 59, f, – , NC.
(there are Mulatto Wormsley’s living with GIBSONs (White) in Russell Co.)
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Some of the Collins’s listed here are my line…..notable Griffin Collins, Sr. and then Rial Collins, who we have always called Riley???? However I am confused here as I thought that Riley Collins ( born around 1822 ) who married Emaline McGinnis was the son of Griffin Sr, and not a son of Riley, Sr. Riley and Emaline had a son Berry born around 1855 and he is my G Grandfather.
Also Emaline, after Riley’s death, married the Levi Perry listed as son of Nathan Perry and Mary. This was much later and both were widows…..but as you can see he was 10 years younger than her. Also Berry married Levi ‘s daughter, but divorced her so that Levi was both his father-in-law and then his step father!
Both Levi and Berry were Baptist preachers for many years.
I don’t have all my Collins records in front of me right now……but I am really confused about this Riley thing. And I hope I have quoted all of this right.
Also there has resently been an oral family suggestion that Riley was really a Dalton by birth but was raised by Collins’s and than we have had the oral history that Berry was born out of wedlock and TOOK his Grandmother’s name Collins??? To throw another kink in the whole mess there is a Matilda Boatwright ( boatright) with a picture that is supposed to be a Cherokee Indian Maiden and was somehow kin……sometimes she is a mother and others times she is an aunt, according to older living relatives????
And then it has been said that Berry ” looked like a a big Indian chief “, I do have pictures of him and he does look the part somewhat. But this is where our history of Cherokee blood comes from. What a mess.
Bushtick
Sorry, I should have been clearer. I did not mean to imply that Rial was the son of Rial Sr., only that there was an older Rial around. Don’t know if the younger Rial was Riley or not.
Collins living in areas of Russell Co. Va.1787-1819
1787-1796 No Collins found.
1797 Mar 11 Isaac Colns 1002 Lower District
1798 Apr 25 Isaac Colns 1003 Lower District
1799-1800 No Collins found.
1801 Marady Collins 1000 Upper District
1802 Valentine Colns 1001 Lower District
1803 no Collins found.
1804 May 15 Meredith Collins 1001 Upper District
1805 James Collins 1001 Lower District
1806 James Collins 1000 Lower District
1806 Meredith Collins 1001 Upper District
1807 Meredith Collins 2002 Upper District
1807 James Collins 1001 Lower District
1808 Taxes were not collected.
1809 ” “
1810 James Collins 1001 Lower District (South District)
1811 James Collins 1002 Lower District
1812 Mar 19 Henry Collens 1001 Lower District
1812 Apr 1 James Collings 1001 Lower District
1813 line 25 James Collins 1001 Lower District
1813 line 57 Henry Collens 1001 Lower district
1814 James Collens 1001 Lower District
1815 Apr 10 Griffeth Collens 30032 Lower District
1815 Apr 10 Doury Collins 10031 Lower District
1815 Apr 27 James Collins 10025 Lower District
1816 Feb 15 Bradley Collins 1001 Lower District
1816 May 13 James Collins 1001 Lower District
1817 May 6 James Collens 1003 Lower District
1817 May 6 Bradley Collens 1001 Lower District
1818 Apr 22 Thomas Collins 1000 Upper District
1818 Mar 3 Bradley Collins 1001 Lower District
1818 Apr 16 James Colins 1002 Lower District
1818 Apr 16 George Collins jr 1000 Lower District
1818 Apr 16 George Collins Sr 1001 Lower District
1819 Apr 3 Bradley Collins 1001 Lower District
1819 Apr 10 James Collins 1002 Lower District
1819 May 3 Isaac Collens 1002 Lower District
Would like to find this district on a map.
Meredith/Merady arrived in Russell Co. 1799 from Wilkes Co. NC and lived there through 1809 arriving in Floyd Co. Ky in time for 1810 tax list. Bradley was his eldest son born NC 1786-7. It is possible George was Meredith’s brother as he followes him to Russell Co. and then to Floyd co.Ky. always living near.
BTW: I also believe Meredith and Griffin were brothers as Griffin Collins SR. signed marriage bond (1821) for my gggrandfather, John W. Collins s/o Meredith.
Source Frankie Blackburn frankie@kconline.com
Generation No. 1
1. GRIFFIN COLLINS1 SR was born 1773 in North Carolina. He married MOSSIE (MARTHA).
(I have found in my research that “Mossie” is a nickname for Martha. Her name was Martha on one of the census records, and simply “Massey” or “Mossie” on others. Some believe her name was Martha MASSEY..I am not yet convinced).
Children of GRIFFIN SR and MOSSIE (MARTHA) are:
2.i.WILLIAM2 COLLINS, b. 1795, North Carolina.
3.ii.GRIFFIN COLLINS JR, b. 1796, North Carolina.
iii.NANCY COLLINS, b. 1798; m. MR ROBINSON.
4.iv.ALLEN COLLINS, b. 1803, Tennessee.
5.v.ALEXANDER COLLINS, b. 1816, Tennessee.
vi.BETSY COLLINS, b. 1817. *always with parents on census, may not have married
6.vii.RILEY COLLINS, b. 1818 m Emaline McGinnis
2. WILLIAM2 COLLINS (GRIFFIN COLLINS1 SR) was born 1795 in North Carolina. He married SARAH.
Children of WILLIAM COLLINS and SARAH are:
i.MARY3 COLLINS, b. 1826.
ii.SARAH COLLINS, b. 1828; m. ISAAC MASSENGILL.
iii.NANCY E COLLINS, b. 1830.
iv.WILLIAM A COLLINS, b. 1833.
v.HIRAM COLLINS, b. 1835.
vi.THOMAS COLLINS, b. 1838.
vii.CATHERINE COLLINS, b. 1840.
viii.CYNTHIA COLLINS, b. 1842.
ix.JAMES COLLINS, b. 1846.
3. GRIFFIN COLLINS2 JR (GRIFFIN COLLINS1 SR) was born 1796 in North Carolina. He married MATILDA MACKEY/MCKEE. *this surname for Matilda NOT verified.
Children of GRIFFIN JR and MATILDA MACKEY/MCKEE are:
7.i.MARY(POLLY)3 COLLINS, b. 1830, Tennessee.
8.ii.ANDREW COLLINS, b. 1832, Grainger Co Tennessee.
iii.MORNING COLLINS, b. 1833.
9.iv.LEWIS COLLINS, b. 1834, Tennessee.
10.v.GRIFFIN COLLINS, b. 1835, Grainger Co Tennessee.
vi.MATILDA COLLINS, b. 1837, Lee Co Va.
11.vii.BERRY COLLINS, b. 1839, Lee Co Va.
viii.AARON COLLINS, b. 1840.
ix.DAVID COLLINS, b. 1841, Lee Co Va.
x.CALEB COLLINS, b. 1844, Russell Co Va; m. RUTH. (twin to Josuah)
xi.JOSUAH COLLINS, b. 1844.
xii.ENOCH COLLINS, b. 1846, Russell Co. Va; m. CINDIE CAUDILL.
xiii.RUTH COLLINS, b. 1850, Russell Co. Va.
4. ALLEN2 COLLINS (GRIFFIN COLLINS1 SR) was born 1803 in Tennessee. He married BIDDY (OBEDIENCE) COLLINS October 24, 1827.
Children of ALLEN COLLINS and BIDDY COLLINS are:
i.MAHALA3 COLLINS, b. 1825.
ii.JAMES COLLINS, b. 1830.
iii.PAULINA COLLINS, b. 1832.
iv.DELILA COLLINS, b. 1833.
v.JERRY COLLINS, b. 1836.
vi.CELIA COLLINS, b. 1838.
vii.ELIZABETH COLLINS, b. 1841.
5. ALEXANDER2 COLLINS (GRIFFIN COLLINS1 SR) was born 1816 in Tennessee. He married ELIZABETH.
Children of ALEXANDER COLLINS and ELIZABETH are:
i.MALINDA3 COLLINS, b. 1840.
ii.JOHN COLLINS, b. 1843, Tenn.
iii.ELIZA COLLINS, b. 1845, Tenn.
iv.AMANDA COLLINS, b. 1848, Tenn.
6. RILEY2 COLLINS (GRIFFIN COLLINS1 SR) was born 1818. He married EMALINE MCGINNIS.
Children of RILEY COLLINS and EMALINE MCGINNIS are:
i.BERRY3 COLLINS, b. 1855.
ii.MARY ANN COLLINS, b. 1858.
iii.CALEB COLLINS, b. 1860.
iv.ELIZABETH COLLINS, b. 1870.
v.IRA G COLLINS, b. 1882.
vi.RYLY COLLINS, b. 1879.
Generation No. 3
7. MARY(POLLY)3 COLLINS (GRIFFIN COLLINS2 JR, GRIFFIN COLLINS1 SR) was born 1830 in Tennessee. She married SAMUEL P COX, son of WILLIAM A COX.
Note: a picture of Mary “Polly” Collins Cox appears in the book; Melungeons: A Resurrection of a Proud People by N. Brent Kennedy.
Children of MARY(POLLY) COLLINS and SAMUEL COX are:
i.ELIZABETH4 COX, b. 1853, Va.
ii.VITHEY COX, b. 1855.
iii.WILLIAM COX, b. 1857.
iv.MARY COX, b. 1861, Va.
v.BERRY COX, b. 1864, Va.
vi.MATILDA COX, b. 1864, Va.
vii.EMALINE COX, b. 1866.
Bushtick – Okay, I know now 🙂 Emaline’s husband is “Riley” on the 1860 Wise Census. So, their dau “Patsey” (a nickname for Martha), b.1849, died? She’s missing from the 1860 census.
On that 1860 Wise Census, Massie is living next door to Riley and Emaline and listed as Martha Collins, 90, (b.) SC. Nancy and Elizabeth are living with her.
Wow, I sure am glad Bill, because I was beginning to worry!!! No, seriously it is great that there is so much documented Collins info out there, because I would really be hitting brickwalls if it was left to just family oral history to sort things out.
But I am interested in the statement about another Rial or Riley that was older born in TN. Do you know anymore about this person and their lineage? I would love to figure out the whole Dalton- Collins mystery and maybe understand it more.
Another reseacher of Collins’s has stated that Emaline McGinnis was a FULL BLOODED indian from Rogersville, TN………but I have also heard talk that she was really a Collins by birth and was adopted by her step father, McGinnis, after her real father was killed during some war.
However it would explain why Berry looks like an indian. But then as you can see and Brenda has pointed out before, there is a 13 year time span between Allen ( bn. 1803 to Griffin and Martha) and Alexander ( born 1816 ) . So something happened during that time span?????
Another thing I thought was ODD….while visiting my 3 Uncle Collins’s in VA several years back I brought up about the two Berry Collins , one born 1839 and a cousin to my Berry born 1855. My Uncle Hassel stated that yes, there was a Big Berry and a Little Berry living within the same area ( just over the hollar) as he said it, but he was emphatic that they were not kin to each other. I guess while growing up his Grandfather Berry didn’t claim that family as kin. But then this same Uncle didn’t accept that we were kin to the Perry’s either and got kinda upset about the possibility. So I just keep quiet about that.
So many questions!
Bushtick
I’ve embarassed myself. Man !! The older Rial I mentioned was a LAWSON, whose mother (?) was Elvey Collins. Sorry about that. Memory is a very “shaky” thing 🙂
Since you’ve been around mountain talking people, I’m sure you’ll appreciate how “Ril” , as the first syllable of “Riley”, got spelled “RIAL”.
Bushtick,
Have you seen the census for Berry (s/o Griffin, b.abt.1796) in 1870 Grainger Co., Tenn?? Or is this a different Berry Collins?
Brenda? Anyone? (Have to be careful – there are 14 Berry Collins in 1870 🙂
His next door neighbor is Pleasant DALTON, 25, b.Tenn.
On the other side of Berry, plus a few houses, is Lurinda DALTON, 40, b.Tenn.
Was that Berry’s wife Mary a DALTON?
Hello Bill,
I’ll forgive you ……..I also have many, many senior moments !
Berry Collins born 1839, Lee Co., VA was the son of Griffin Collins, Jr. and Matilda Mackey/McKee and he married a Mary Ann ? their children are Herman bn. 1859, VA and Susannah, bn. 1866.
My G Grandfather Berry Collins bn. 1855 son of Riley and Emaline McGinnis married first Nancy Perry in 1876 daughter of Nathan and Mary Perry. I see here that I did make a mistake about Riley’s wife Emaline McGinnis marrying Levi Perry, son of Nathan and Mary. Not the marriage but the connection to my Berry later. Anyway instead of it being Levis’s daughter Nancy that Berry married first – it was Levi’s sister. Well, Berry and 1st. Nancy must have divorced or something. …because he is married or living with ( no marriage record found thus far) 2nd Nancy Emily later and she is suppose to be the mother of his children : Lou Minnie ( died young), Ava, Elbert, Jezreal,Archalaus, Roy, Thorton, Arvil, Grace and Lillie. There is also a Chehalis, WA written and I am not sure what this means. Elbert being my Grandfather. I know that in 1870 in TN. ( all of this and above is according to written family history) we show Riley Collins age 52 and Emmaline McGinnis age 48 and are listed with Berry age 15, bn. VA, Polly Ann,12, VA, Caleb,10,VA, Elizabeth,8,VA, Ira,4,KY, and Ryly,1,VA. Please note that Ira was born in KY.
Another researcher out there also has Berry married to an Amanda? So I am not for sure if there was 2 or 3 marriages involved with my Berry.
I do know that my Uncles remember Nancy Emily while growing up and I have pictures of her. She was reported to be able to predict the future and she read coffee grounds to tell fortunes.
As far as more Berry Collins listed on census records I am not aware of them?? Please enlighten me?
I am really interested in the Dalton neighbors …..because my cousins in VA seem to believe this is where the indian comes from. But my Uncles state that the Dalton connection are with the Dalton outlaw gang??? I don’t believe that family was Native American. WHAT FUN!!
Bushtick
Bushtick,
There were 14 Berry Collins on 1870 census records:
Age…..born in…………lived in:
11…….Ala………………Dallas Co., Al.
8………Ala………………Lowndes Co., Al.
6………Ga……………….Bartow Co., Ga (female: Berry Ann)
10…….Ga……………….Columbia Co., Ga.
14…….Ind………………Morgan Co., Ind. (at David, 70, b.NC)
38…….Ms……………….Madison Co., Ms.
52…….NC……………….Bollinger Co., Mo.
28…….Ky………………..Cass Co., Mo.
17…….NC……………….Franklin Co., NC
63…….NC……………….Franklin Co., NC
2………Oh……………….VanWert Co., Oh
16……. — ……………….Philadelphia Co., Pa
28……. — ……………….Graninger Co., Tenn**
5………Va………………..Wise Co., Va.
Thanks Bill,
I wonder WHERE my Berry was?? He wasn’t listed on the above census records. But he was supposed to be 15 years old and living in TN in 1870. His marriage record states he was born in Russell Co., VA. Could it be the 16 yr old living in PA? Do you have any other family members listed?
I just have a hand written family information sheet that my two older sister were given by an older Uncle living in VA , 10 or more years ago. It just says TN and 1870.
Again thanks.
Bushtick
Bustick,
The “5” yr old in Wise Co., Va., is actually 15 yrs old and is Riley & Emaline Collins’ son.
The Berry Collins, b.abt. 1842 Va, was living next door to a Pleasant Dalton in 1870 Grainger Co., Tenn so I’ll looking at 1850 Grainger Co., Tenn., Dist. 11. In 1850, here were a ton of Daltons, several with Collins living with them; and Edmond Collins, 50, Tn, has a GRIFFIN family living with him:
Nancy, 42, NC
William, 16, NC
Martha, 13, NC
Elizabeth, 4, Tn
George W., 1, Tn.
Many names are duplicated, of course 🙂 Alexander, Andrew, Harmon, Griffin and Joseph Collins and many more I haven’t writen down yet.
Do you have access to census records on line?
Again thanks Bill, for clearing that up. Boy, what a big difference in the listed age.
I subscribe to Ancestry.Com and I do look ups on the Wise Co. Web site and LDS………but I don’t have access to all census records.
I would love to view those records with the Collins’s and Dalton’s.
If the Berry Collins’s that had the Dalton neighbor is the same Berry that is the son of Griffin, Jr., then Griffin, Jr. and Riley were brother’s?? However that Berry was born in 1939!!!???
The oral family history states that either Riley ( most think Riley) or Berry was really a Dalton by birth but was raised by Collins’s.
You have been very helpful and I appreciate all the information. I have been researching this line for years and always come to a deadend with the Collins and Dalton thing.
Bushtick
PS Has anyone heard if Brenda had surgery or how she is doing?
On the 1910 Wise Co., Va census, go to Ennumeration District 138 and go to image 26.
At 223, 223, is Berry, Nancy and their kids, including Elbert, “Achelas”, Thornton, Arvil, Grace, Lilie and “nephew” John Taylor. Notice that Jesriel Collins and wife Louise (?) are living with Berry. (“Big” Berry is in ED 152, image 10.)
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On the 1900 Wise Co., Va census, go to Ennumeration District 130 and image 22. (Big Berry is in E.D. 131, image 22.)
(ED 130 was “west of the State Road between the court house and Pound Gap”. ED 131 was “east….” of the same.)
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On the 1880 Wise Co., Va census, Berry (& Amanda J.) and Riley and Emiline (next door), are in ED 101, image 28.
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On the 1870 Wise Co., Va census, Riley’s family is in Gladesville P.O., on image 9.
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I’ll let you know about the Daltons.
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