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Does anyone have information on these surnames. I am trying to verify Saponi connection that I have heard from other sources to John Austin, Hannah Honor Love, Mary Maybe or McBee, Zachariah Austin, William Austin, Joseph Champness Austin.
Can anyone help??
A)John Austin, I have 28 Johns, dates from 1690 through 1864
this one is thefather of Joseph Champness (below)
John *(?Champness?) Austin, B Bef 1690 Or 27 Mar 1701, Pembury or Westerham, Kent, England
*(?There are two camps on his full name. One that has only John Austin, Sr., such as the Austin researchers; Janet Austin Curtis (now deceased), Mary Hitchcock Ward, and Mac Lambert (who now has Janet’s research plus his on).
Second has John Champness Austin I, such as all of those who got there research from James C. Hankins .?)
B)Zack Austin, The only Zack I have is below, though I am sure there may be others.
Zachary Taylor Austin b 7 Sep 1848, Hardin Co. TN
C)Hannah Honor Love b abt 1702, Pittsylvania Co., VA
D)Joseph Austin, I have 7 Josephs, dates from 1730 through 1822, this one is the son of Hannah Love (above)
Joseph Champness Austin b 1730, Brunswick, VA
E)Mary Maybee (poss McBee), B 8 Jan 1726/1727. D. Va.
F)William Austin, I have 26 Williams,dates from 1682 through 1833
This one is son of John (?Champness?)Jr and Mary Maybee.
William Ausyin born 1761.
Jim Hankin’s has a lot of sources listed with his info. [contact Jim at SouthsideVirginia@CottageHill.com]
Good Luck!
Originally posted by LindaF
Does anyone have information on these surnames. I am trying to verify Saponi connection that I have heard from other sources to John Austin, Hannah Honor Love, Mary Maybe or McBee, Zachariah Austin, William Austin, Joseph Champness Austin.
Can anyone help??
Fire3821 wrote: A)John Austin, I have 28 Johns, dates from 1690 through 1864
this one is thefather of Joseph Champness (below)
John *(?Champness?) Austin, B Bef 1690 Or 27 Mar 1701, Pembury or Westerham, Kent, England
*(?There are two camps on his full name. One that has only John Austin, Sr., such as the Austin researchers; Janet Austin Curtis (now deceased), Mary Hitchcock Ward, and Mac Lambert (who now has Janet’s research plus his on).
Second has John Champness Austin I, such as all of those who got there research from James C. Hankins .?)
B)Zack Austin, The only Zack I have is below, though I am sure there may be others.
Zachary Taylor Austin b 7 Sep 1848, Hardin Co. TN
C)Hannah Honor Love b abt 1702, Pittsylvania Co., VA
D)Joseph Austin, I have 7 Josephs, dates from 1730 through 1822, this one is the son of Hannah Love (above)
Joseph Champness Austin b 1730, Brunswick, VA
E)Mary Maybee (poss McBee), B 8 Jan 1726/1727. D. Va.
F)William Austin, I have 26 Williams,dates from 1682 through 1833
This one is son of John (?Champness?)Jr and Mary Maybee.
William Ausyin born 1761.
Jim Hankin’s has a lot of sources listed with his info. [contact Jim at SouthsideVirginia@CottageHill.com]
Good Luck!
Shirley,
You may want to contact LindaF and see what she has on these Austin’s:)
Shirley
:rolleyes: Sammarroq
How Do You Apply For Acceptance To The Saponi Tribe Once You Trace Your Line To A Saponi Indian
Shirley
i’m going on the ideal that my acsertor was saponi indian the fact that she married john austin sr and i have also seen the referance that john austin jr, may also have been married to a sasquhannah indian
shirley
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shirley778446 wrote: i’m going on the ideal that my acsertor was saponi indian the fact that she married john austin sr and i have also seen the referance that john austin jr, may also have been married to a sasquhannah indian
shirley
hi, is there any members wha may already have in thier posseccion any documents , photo, family stories that they could share with me,. i try to document everythin when and if i can, i’ve always lovce the indian , would love somewho to go to one of the pow wow’s and walk away amazed even more than i am already.
shirley:p
I just found out I am a descendant of her’s too. My great grandmother is Ruth Lee (Dye) Hill.. So, now what do we do?
As far as the Federal Government is concerned, nobody is a Saponi Indian. It’s not a federally recognized tribe. If you all who can undeniably tie to Hannah Love and John Austin had all lived in the same small town for the last two hundreds years, gone to the same church, same school and banded together through the generations while you were ostracized as “non-whites” who nonetheless never fit into any black community, then you’d have a shot at federal recognition. There are communities who did that, but none of them have any solid pedigree back to one of the meer six people noted as Saponi Indians in official records. There’s a big tribe of Haliwa Saponi who are clearly Indian blooded by majority, by the logic of “Who’s buried in Grant’s tomb?” are likely Saponi but they don’t have that paper trail.
Just out of curiosity, where have your families been through the generations since Hannah Love?
My twig on the tree came from there and eventually landed in Kansas. My family came from tenn., then ark., then okla., then kansas. Her name if Ruth Lee Dye if you want to look it up..
My couple of Love folk were in western NC- Macon and surrounding areas; don’t know if it helps you.
Akhasa
I know a lady who did some fascinating research concerning her Tuscarora heritage. She found her people in Bertie County, NC, then followed them through a number of generations as they moved out to Oklahoma. What was astonishing was that she noticed that it wasn’t just her family moving thataway. It was an entire community moving together across the country over a number of decades. The same collection of surnames, I’m thinking it was about a dozen or so, were all there in Bertie county, and they all ended up I believe it was Oklahoma, in the same town, together, many years later. Now that’s a pretty persistent community.
The shame of it was that it ended up with a generation that went out of its way to deny what so much effort had been put into keeping together.
Anyway, take a look and see if you notice a similar pattern. We might actually find a bona fide Saponi community with an undeniable paper trail.
has anyone come up with anything new on John Austin sr. I haven’t been able to find any pictures or documents on John and his decendants
shirley
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