Coin/Bolin

Thanks for responding, I though about the specifics, but I didn’t want to be leading. The folks that I am looking at are both GGG-grand fathers. I don’t remember where I saw it, but I found a posting on the net somewhere that said that “Coin/Coins” was a Saponi name. It would figure, because I can’t find squat anywhere on this name before 1830ish, that it could be. The man I’m researching is James J Coin. He was born in either Hawkins (Washington) county, or the Sequatchie Valley of TN around 1808. He migrated from there around the removal to KY (it is supposed) then to Arkansas where one of his daughters was born. He then moved on to MO where he was one of the founding fathers on NIXA Mo. It is written that he was half blood. I have some letters, and a entry in the “History of Springfield and North Springfield 1878” where his daughter stated that he came to the area “when there were but three houses in Springfield.” She goes on to say that he was “of Cherokee descent.” And the author states that “Mr. C has relatives in indian territory.” I was raised Cherokee by the way.

He married a woman named Fammie Caroline Bolin/Bowling/Boulding etc. Born in Giles Co Tn, I think around 1835 but I would have to check to be sure. Her father was William Bolin he was born between 1795 and 1805 the only information on the place of birth is VA/NC/SC. No one knows for sure. I have a picture of my GG grandfather Markes Coin with a his Daughter Lucinda (my g-grandmother). He was fair looks like a mixed blood with facial hair. Lucinda, the daughter, appears almost black with straight black hair. More black then just NDN. I have a tree that shows that the Bolins were from Virginia indian blood lines.

I am just guessing but it would seem possible, based on migration paterns, the dark skin, family lore, etc. that they may have been Virginia NDN’s. But, william also had other children one who he named Grandville. Some of the family find that curious because there is no other Grandvilles in the family and I’m (still guessing of course) thinking that maybe it is because they lived in Grandville NC at one time or another.

They never stayed anywhere long, and actually I can’t find William on any census when he was supposed to be in MO. Again guessing, but that may be because of his skin color.

There is a whole lot of guessing here and I know that is dangerous, but with lack of records all I have to go on is the stuff that has been passed down from generation to generation. In our family, I’m told that only one child of each generation was chosen to carry that information, which seems to have some grounding in the Cherokee tradition. I just wasn’t all that interested when I was picked. (too busy flying off around the world and all for our nasty Uncle)

I guess I’m lucky that I know as much as I do, but, I want the whole story and I want it to be correct. I am puzzled by the two families getting together at all, as it seems that the Cherokee were not the best neighbors of Virginia indians.

There is also another secondary source of historical writing which puzzles me. In the history of either Stone or Christian County MO, Grandville and Wife are mentioned. Seems Grandvilles wife was a healer, grew her own herbs, hunted them in the woods and helped neighbors get better with them. Would this be consistant in the Saponi tribe?

I don’t really know who Markes mother was. He states that her name was Mary Quinby, but James had several wives and the only one I can nail down a Nancy. I don’t know that any of the information that I have on William’s parents is correct so I’ll wait until I know for sure before I put out anything that isn’t correct. The tree I have has Nansemonds and Pamunkey’s on it. I also have information on a marriage of a possible brother of James named Samuel, who was married in Rockbridge VA (this through another distant relative who has been researching this for 20 years).

So thats pretty much the story, anyone who want more info can contact me at jrhjlh@msn.com. All help will be greatly appriciated. Seems as we get older, we really want to find out where we come from. Thank you (wado)

Bill,

I wrote back last night but it didn’t post to this page, hard to tell where it might be. With reference to William Bolin, at least that much of the name is documented in family records. I would say that I feel 99.9% confident that this is his name at death w/o any middle names included.

Back to the Coin thing. I dug out that thing I found on the internet about that name being a surname of Saponi origin. I think I found it at http://members.tripod.com/~Coker_Forum/c01759.htm

Yep, that works. Anyway, this is why I took the shot in the dark with this fourm. Let me know what you think.

Bill,

Thanks for entertaining my confusion and for being so helpful with all your posts. I thought that was a misspelling also, but it wa repeated several times, runs in alphabetical order in some places and the sight mentions Goins as well. Have you read or do you have any knowledge on this series of books or where they can be obtained?