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somone sent me the following —
This is the a very hard line to trace.
Descendants of James Coleman
Generation No. 1
1. JAMES1 COLEMAN was born abt 1833 in NC. He married ELIZA FRANCES TRICKEY
24 Dec 1863 in Halifax Co., VA Witness J.D. Wilkerson, Bondsman was Daniel
Epps. She was born abt 1840 in VA..
Notes for JAMES COLEMAN:
1880 Federal Census
Census Place: Shallotte, Brunswick, North Carolina
Source: FHL Film 1254953 National Archives Film T9-0953 Page 598C
Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace
James COLEMAN Self M M W 47 NC
Occ: Laborer Fa: NC Mo: NC
Frances COLEMAN Wife F M W 40 NC
Occ: Keeping House Fa: NC Mo: NC
William J. COLEMAN Son M W 14 NC
Occ: At Home Fa: NC Mo: NC
Jane P. COLEMAN Dau F S W 11 NC
Occ: At Home Fa: NC Mo: NC
Frances COLEMAN Dau F S W 8 NC
Occ: At Home Fa: NC Mo: NC
Thomas COLEMAN Son M S W 4 NC
Occ: At Home Fa: NC Mo: NC
Julius E. COLEMAN Son M S W 1 NC
Occ: At Home
More About JAMES COLEMAN and ELIZA TRICKEY:
Marriage: 24 Dec 1863, Halifax Co., VA Witness J.D. Wilkerson, Bondsman was
Daniel Epps
Child of JAMES COLEMAN and ELIZA TRICKEY is:
2. i. SARA “BIG-A-MOM” FRANCES2 COLEMAN, b. abt 1872, North Carolina; d.
Bryn Mawr, Delaware Co., PA.
Generation No. 2
2. SARA “BIG-A-MOM” FRANCES2 COLEMAN (JAMES1) was born abt 1872 in North
Carolina, and died in Bryn Mawr, Delaware Co., PA. She married *JASPER “DOC”
EPPS abt 1892 in Halifax Co., VA?, son of *SIDNEY EPPS and *MARTHA EPPS. He
was born Bet. 1864 – 1866, and died Aft. 1905.
More About SARA “BIG-A-MOM” FRANCES COLEMAN:
Burial: Lower Merion Baptist Church cemetery in Bryn Mawr, PA
More About *JASPER “DOC” EPPS:
Nickname: abt 1880, Doc or Jasper got his nickname as he was known for going
into the fields and tending to people who were hurt. Info from Cheryl
Heatley, PO Box 74, Covington, PA. 16971
More About *JASPER EPPS and SARA COLEMAN:
Marriage: abt 1892, Halifax Co., VA?
Children of SARA COLEMAN and *JASPER EPPS are:
i. JOHNNIE3 EPPS, b. abt 1893; d. Probably died young.
3. ii. MELVIN “SITTING BULL” EPPS, b. abt 1895.
4. iii. *MARY LIZA/ELIZA EPPS, b. 13 Oct 1897, Halifax Co., Virginia.
5. iv. WILLIAM C. “HUCKLEBUCK” EPPS, b. 12 May 1900; d. 1969.
Generation No. 3
3. MELVIN “SITTING BULL”3 EPPS (SARA “BIG-A-MOM” FRANCES2 COLEMAN, JAMES1)
was born abt 1895.
Children of MELVIN “SITTING BULL” EPPS are:
i. LAMAR4 EPPS.
ii. TALMADGE EPPS.
iii. VESTER EPPS.
iv. RICHARD EPPS.
v. NORA EPPS.
4. *MARY LIZA/ELIZA3 EPPS (SARA “BIG-A-MOM” FRANCES2 COLEMAN, JAMES1) was
born 13 Oct 1897 in Halifax Co., Virginia. She married *HERMAN STEWART Apr
1911 in Halifax Co., Virginia. He was born 26 Sep 1893 in Halifax Co.,
Virginia, and died Jan 1972 in Brym Mawr, Delaware Co., PA.
The same person also sent me this — part 1
Some of this may over lap with what I have alread sent to you.
Descendants of *Thomas Stewart
Generation No. 1
1. *THOMAS1 STEWART was born 1669 in Ireland, and died 1742. He married MARGARET GRAHAM. She was born 1673.
Children of *THOMAS STEWART and MARGARET GRAHAM are:
2. i. *ALEXANDER2 STEWART, b. 26 Apr 1695, Ballymena, Antrim, Ireland.
ii. MARY STEWART, b. 11 Mar 1696/97, Ireland.
iii. MARGARET STEWART, b. 1699, Ireland.
iv. JOHN STEWART, b. 1700, Ireland.
Generation No. 2
2. *ALEXANDER2 STEWART (*THOMAS1) was born 26 Apr 1695 in Ballymena, Antrim, Ireland. He married *JENNETT ROGERS. She was born 1680 in Antrim, Ireland.
Child of *ALEXANDER STEWART and *JENNETT ROGERS is:
3. i. *JAMES3 STEWART, b. 1718, Ireland; d. 1783, Caswell Co., North Carolina.
Generation No. 3
3. *JAMES3 STEWART (*ALEXANDER2, *THOMAS1) was born 1718 in Ireland, and died 1783 in Caswell Co., North Carolina. He married (1) *CATHERINE //. She was born 1724 in Ireland, and died 1776 in North Carolina. He married (2) AGNESS //. He married (3) CHEROKEE INDIAN LADY.
More About *JAMES STEWART:
Burial: Caswell Co., North Carolina
Children of *JAMES STEWART and *CATHERINE // are:
4. i. *THOMAS4 STEWART, b. abt 1743, Ireland or Mechlenburg Co., VA.; d. 15 Feb 1818, Person Co., North Carolina.
ii. ELIZABETH STEWART, b. abt 1740, Ireland; m. GOODLOW WARREN; b. 1732, North Carolina.
iii. RACHEL STEWART, b. abt 1745, Ireland; m. RICHARD HOLLOWAY; b. abt 1743.
iv. JAMES STEWART, b. abt 1747, Ireland; d. 20 May 1816, Mecklenburg Co., VA.; m. PRISCILLA STEWART; b. abt 1749, Mecklenburg Co., VA..
Generation No. 4
4. *THOMAS4 STEWART (*JAMES3, *ALEXANDER2, *THOMAS1) was born abt 1743 in Ireland or Mechlenburg Co., VA., and died 15 Feb 1818 in Person Co., North Carolina. He married (1) SARAH CATTILER. He married (2) *SARAH DRUMMOND 1791 in Halifax Co., VA? by James Yancy. She was born 1765 in Person Co., North
Carolina.
More About *THOMAS STEWART:
Military service: Bet. 1776 – 1782, Enlisted in Captian Dawson’s Co. in Lunenburg Co., VA. under General Gibson and was at Valley Forge & Guilford Courthouse. Into from Cheryl Heatley PO Box 74, Covinton, PA. 16917
More About *THOMAS STEWART and *SARAH DRUMMOND:
Marriage: 1791, Halifax Co., VA? by James Yancy
Children of *THOMAS STEWART and *SARAH DRUMMOND are:
i. NATHANIEL5 STEWART, b. abt 1792, Person Co., North Carolina.
ii. MABEL STEWART, b. abt 1795, Person Co., North Carolina; m. BYRD SHEPHERD.
iii. JOSEPH STEWART, b. abt 1797, Person Co., North Carolina.
iv. JOHN STEWART, b. abt 1800, Person Co., North Carolina; m. ASSANATH WARREN.
v. DAVID STEWART, b. abt 1802, Person Co., North Carolina; m. MARY EPPS.
5. vi. *NANCY STEWART, b. abt 1804, Person Co., North Carolina; d. Bef. 1870, Not listed with husband in 1870 & 1880 census.
vii. THOMAS STEWART, b. abt 1806, Person Co., North Carolina; m. POLLY COOPER.
Generation No. 5
5. *NANCY5 STEWART (*THOMAS4, *JAMES3, *ALEXANDER2, *THOMAS1) was born abt 1804 in Person Co., North Carolina, and died Bef. 1870 in Not listed with husband in 1870 & 1880 census. She married *WILLIAM “COLONEL” EPPS 08 Jan 1824 in Halifax Co., VA, son of *WILLIAM EPPS and *CATHERINE //. He was born abt 1800 in Virginia.
Notes for *WILLIAM “COLONEL” EPPS:
1850 Federal Census
Halifax Co., Virginia, Southern District. Census taken 27 Sept 1850, page 95
561-561 Epps, William- age 49, male, mulatto, Occupation-Planter, value of real estate-$2,000, born-VA,
does not read or write
Epps, Nancy- age 55, female, mulatto, born- VA., cannot read or write
Epps, Sidney- age 24, male, mulatto, laborer, born- VA., cannot read or write.
Epps, Nathaniel- age 19, male, mulatto, laborer, born VA., cannot read or write.
Epps, Permilia- age 20, female, mulatto, born VA., cannot read or write
Epps. Harriet- age 18, female, mulatto, born VA.
Epps, Moses- age 13, male, mulatto, born VA.
562-562 Epps, James- age 30, male, mulatto, Planter, born- VA., cannot read or write
Epps, Harriet- age 26, female, mulatto, born- VA, cannot read or write
Epps, Agnes- age 5, female, mulatto, born- VA,
Epps, Emily- age 1, female, mulatto, born- VA.
James is probably the oldest child of William and Nancy Epps.
1880 Federal Census
Census Place: Black Walnut, Halifax, Virginia
Source: FHL Film 1255369 National Archives Film T9-1369 Page 212C
Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace
William EPPS Self M W MU 80 VA
Occ: Farmer Fa: VA Mo: VA
Pemelia EPPS Dau F S MU 40 VA
Occ: Keeps House Fa: VA Mo: VA
Richard EPPS GSon M S MU 13 VA
Occ: At School Fa: VA Mo: VA
Rebecca EPPS GDau F S MU 10 VA
Occ: At School
Richard and Rebecca are the children of Nathaniel and Mary Epps. They are shown in the 1870 census with their parents and their brothers and sisters. Maybe their parents died?
More About *WILLIAM “COLONEL” EPPS:
Donated land: abt 1840, The Colonel had a lot of land that he donated to the Mayo Chapel. An Epps cemetery is associated with this Chapel.
More About *WILLIAM EPPS and *NANCY STEWART:
Bondsman: Jan 1824, John Stewart
Marriage: 08 Jan 1824, Halifax Co., VA
Witnesses at Marriages: 08 Jan 1824, William McKissack
Children of *NANCY STEWART and *WILLIAM EPPS are:
i. SARAH6 EPPS, b. abt 1830, Virginia.
ii. NATHANIEL EPPS, b. abt 1833, Virginia; m. MARY //; b. abt 1848, North Carolina.
6. iii. *SIDNEY EPPS, b. 1835, Halifax, VA.; d. abt 1890.
iv. WAT EPPS, b. abt 1837.
v. MOSES EPPS, b. abt 1838.
7. vi. PEMELIA EPPS, b. abt 1840, Virginia.
Generation No. 6
6. *SIDNEY6 EPPS (*NANCY5 STEWART, *THOMAS4, *JAMES3, *ALEXANDER2, *THOMAS1) was born 1835 in Halifax, VA., and died abt 1890. He married *MARTHA “PATSY” EPPS abt 1854 in Virginia. She was born 1825 in Virginia.
Notes for *SIDNEY EPPS:
1880 Federal census
Census Place: Black Walnut, Halifax, Virginia
Source: FHL Film 1255369 National Archives Film T9-1369 Page 212C
Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace
Sidney EPPS Self M M MU 49 VA
Occ: Farmer Fa: VA Mo: VA
Patsy EPPS Wife F M MU 54 VA
Occ: Keeps House Fa: VA Mo: VA
Mary J. EPPS Dau F S MU 22 VA
Occ: At Home Fa: VA Mo: VA
Vincent W. EPPS Son M S MU 19 VA
Occ: F. Laborer Fa: VA Mo: VA
Katie F. EPPS Dau F S MU 16 VA
Occ: At School Fa: VA Mo: VA
Jasper EPPS Son M S MU 14 VA
Occ: At School Fa: VA Mo: VA
Rowan G. EPPS Son M S MU 12 VA
Occ: At School Fa: VA Mo: VA
Henry J. EPPS GSon M S MU 2 VA
Henry probably is the son of Mary J. Epps age 22 above.
More About *SIDNEY EPPS and *MARTHA EPPS:
Marriage: abt 1854, Virginia
Children of *SIDNEY EPPS and *MARTHA EPPS are:
i. MARY J.7 EPPS, b. abt 1855.
ii. VINCENT WIALKER EPPS, b. abt 1860.
iii. KATIE F. VIRGINIA EPPS, b. abt 1860.
8. iv. *JASPER “DOC” EPPS, b. Bet. 1864 – 1866; d. Aft. 1905.
v. RHOAN G. EPPS, b. abt 1868.
vi. HENRY EPPS, b. abt 1852.
vii. WILLIAM EPPS, b. abt 1858.
viii. JOHN EPPS, b. abt 1857.
7. PEMELIA6 EPPS (*NANCY5 STEWART, *THOMAS4, *JAMES3, *ALEXANDER2, *THOMAS1) was born abt 1840 in Virginia. She married UNKNOWN.
Notes for PEMELIA EPPS:
1880 Federal Census
Census Place: Black Walnut, Halifax, Virginia
Source: FHL Film 1255369 National Archives Film T9-1369 Page 212C
Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace
William EPPS Self M W MU 80 VA
Occ: Farmer Fa: VA Mo: VA
Pemelia EPPS Dau F S MU 40 VA
Occ: Keeps House Fa: VA Mo: VA
Richard EPPS GSon M S MU 13 VA
Occ: At School Fa: VA Mo: VA
Rebeca EPPS GDau F S MU 10 VA
Occ: At School
Children of PEMELIA EPPS and UNKNOWN are:
i. RICHARD7 EPPS, b. abt 1867, Virginia.
ii. REBECCA EPPS, b. abt 1870, Virginia.
Generation No. 7
8. *JASPER “DOC”7 EPPS (*SIDNEY6, *NANCY5 STEWART, *THOMAS4, *JAMES3, *ALEXANDER2, *THOMAS1) was born Bet. 1864 – 1866, and died Aft. 1905. He married (1) LILA EPPS. He married (2) SARA “BIG-A-MOM” FRANCES COLEMAN abt 1892 in Halifax Co., VA?, daughter of JAMES COLEMAN and ELIZA TRICKEY. She was born abt 1872 in North Carolina, and died in Bryn Mawr, Delaware Co., PA.
More About *JASPER “DOC” EPPS:
Nickname: abt 1880, Doc or Jasper got his nickname as he was known for going into the fields and tending to people who were hurt. Info from Cheryl Heatley, PO Box 74, Covington, PA. 16971
More About SARA “BIG-A-MOM” FRANCES COLEMAN:
Burial: Lower Merion Baptist Church cemetery in Bryn Mawr, PA
More About *JASPER EPPS and SARA COLEMAN:
Marriage: abt 1892, Halifax Co., VA?
Children of *JASPER EPPS and SARA COLEMAN are:
i. JOHNNIE8 EPPS, b. abt 1893; d. Probably died young.
9. ii. MELVIN “SITTING BULL” EPPS, b. abt 1895.
10. iii. *MARY LIZA/ELIZA EPPS, b. 13 Oct 1897, Halifax Co., Virginia.
11. iv. WILLIAM C. “HUCKLEBUCK” EPPS, b. 12 May 1900; d. 1969.
cont’d from the last post —
Generation No. 8
9. MELVIN “SITTING BULL”8 EPPS (*JASPER “DOC”7, *SIDNEY6, *NANCY5 STEWART, *THOMAS4, *JAMES3, *ALEXANDER2, *THOMAS1) was born abt 1895.
Children of MELVIN “SITTING BULL” EPPS are:
i. LAMAR9 EPPS.
ii. TALMADGE EPPS.
iii. VESTER EPPS.
iv. RICHARD EPPS.
v. NORA EPPS.
10. *MARY LIZA/ELIZA8 EPPS (*JASPER “DOC”7, *SIDNEY6, *NANCY5 STEWART, *THOMAS4, *JAMES3, *ALEXANDER2, *THOMAS1) was born 13 Oct 1897 in Halifax Co., Virginia. She married *HERMAN STEWART Apr 1911 in Halifax Co., Virginia. He was born 26 Sep 1893 in Halifax Co., Virginia, and died Jan 1972 in Brym Mawr, Delaware Co., PA.
Notes for *HERMAN STEWART:
Social Security Death Index at Roots Web.com
Name- Birth, Death, Last Residence, Last Benefit, SSN Issued
HERMAN STUART- 26 Sep 1890, Jan 1972, 19010 (Bryn Mawr, Delaware, PA), (none specified), 173-10-5662, Pennsylvania
More About *HERMAN STEWART and *MARY EPPS:
Marriage: Apr 1911, Halifax Co., Virginia
Children of *MARY EPPS and *HERMAN STEWART are:
i. JOSEPH9 STEWART, b. abt 1912.
ii. MALCOLM WRIGHT STEWART, b. 24 May 1914, Halifax Co., Virginia; d. 21 Aug 1996, Bryn Mawr, Delaware Co., PA.; m. MARY KATHRYN MURPHY, 23 Dec 1933, Bryn Mawr, PA.; b. 11 Jun 1915, Penn Valley, PA..
Notes for MALCOLM WRIGHT STEWART:
Social Security Death Index on Roots Web.com
Name- Birth, Death, Last Residence, Last Benefit, SSN Issued
MALCOLM W STEWART- 24 May 1914, 21 Aug 1996 (V), 19010 (Bryn Mawr, Delaware, PA),, (none specified) 181-03-5058, Pennsylvania
V)=(Verified) Report verified with a family member or someone acting on behalf of a family member.
More About MALCOLM STEWART and MARY MURPHY:
Marriage: 23 Dec 1933, Bryn Mawr, PA.
iii. GOLDIE STEWART, b. abt 1916.
iv. BAILEY STEWART, b. abt 1918.
v. CLARA STEWART, b. abt 1921.
vi. HESTER STEWART, b. abt 1923.
vii. MARSHALL STEWART, b. abt 1925.
viii. DEWEES STEWART, b. abt 1927.
ix. FRANCES STEWART, b. abt 1930.
x. PATRICIA STEWART, b. abt 1933.
11. WILLIAM C. “HUCKLEBUCK”8 EPPS (*JASPER “DOC”7, *SIDNEY6, *NANCY5 STEWART, *THOMAS4, *JAMES3, *ALEXANDER2, *THOMAS1) was born 12 May 1900, and died 1969. He married OMA HESTER STEWART, daughter of JOHN STEWART and AGNES EPPS. She was born abt 1902.
Children of WILLIAM EPPS and OMA STEWART are:
i. JEANETTE AGNES9 EPPS, b. 21 Mar 1931; m. FRANCIS JOSEPH BLANK; b. 16 Jul 1931; d. 08 Dec 1990.
ii. WILLIAM EPPS.
iii. LENA EPPS.
iv. SHIRLEY ELSIE EPPS.
Just thought that I’d bring this to the top again since noone responded to it.
Can anyone confirm or deny that Epps and Coleman, and the other surnames listed, are or are not Saponi surnames?
The people in question told me they already posted this here once, but no one responded to it. They also have ties to Indian Territory like me, so I was hoping someone might help them.
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Vance,
Post Person County Indians
John Trulinger sent me this article on the Person County Indians and I am posting it here so others can read and also so it can go into the archives.
I really encourage folks if you have articles to post them. Sometimes we might not always agree with what is stated in the articles but it is a good thing to get everything out on the table and let folks make up their own minds.
THE INDIANS OF PERSON COUNTY NORTH CAROLINA
HISTORY OF A PROUD AND HANDSOME TRIBE OF INDIANS NEAR ROXBORO MAY BE CONNECTED WITH LOST COLONY MYSTERY; ABOUT 70 FAMILIES LIVE IN EXTENDED FARMING COMMUNITY
By Tom MacCaughelty Taken from:
Durham Morning Herald, March 21, 1948
Straddling the North Carolina border in the secluded hills east of U.S. Highway 501 is a community of American Indians whose history has remained as much a mystery as the fate of the Lost Colony.
Commonly termed a “mixed-blood” group, these proud people are probably the product of marriages long ago of whites and Indians, and, in fact, have a tradition among themselves which says they are remnants of the Lost Colony.
In color they vary between blondes and even red-heads with grey or blue-gray eyes to tawny and sometimes swarthy brunettes with hazel, brown, or black eyes. Some have the straight black hair associated with pure Indian, while others have differing shades of brown hair, either straight or wavy.
In general appearance they are well- dressed and clean. They are a handsome people.
Their history is mysterious. As Indians, they never have been positively identified. Can they be, as their tradition holds, the longsought descendants of the friendly Indians who received the colonists of John White?
Strangely enough, among the approximately 350 people in the scattered farming community, only six family names are represented: Johnson, Martin, Coleman, Epps, Stewart (also spelled Stuart), and Shepherd. Stranger still, three of these names correspond closely with those among the list of Lost Colonists: Johnson, Colman, and Martyn. But theirs are common English names long familiar in North Carolina, and intermarriage with the proximity to whites would be expected to extend such names among them. (A seventh prominent name among this group is Tally.)
As far back as anyone knows, these people have displayed the manners and customs of white settlers, but in this they don’t differ from identified Indians.
Unfortunately, as far as settling the question goes, not a single Indian word had been passed down to the present group. If their former manner of speech could somehow be resurrected, there would be a good clue to their identity; for then experts could judge with some degree of accuracy whether they indeed originated among the coastal Algonquin language tribes. If so, there would be a good argument for the Lost Colony theory. If their language were Siouan or some other branch of the inland tongues, the score would be against the Lost Colony tradition.
Dr. Douglas LeTell Rights, author of “The American Indian in North Carolina,” (published by Duke University Press in 1947) says that there is a possibility that the people, officially designated as Person County Indians, are descendants of the Saponi, originally a Siouan tribe. He notes that Governor Dobbs reported in 1755 that 14 men and 14 women of the Saponi were in Granville county. Person County was once a part of Granville county. ( Dr. Rights also suggests that these Indians in Person County may be a branch of, or have mixed with, the Indians of Robeson County. The people themeselves deny being a branch of the Robeson County Indian, but say that there have been a few marriages between members of the two groups.)
The Person County Indians, if they are of the Saponi, couldn’t choose a more highly regarded tribe. (Col. William Byrd, in his History of The Dividing Line describes this tribe.)
Whether a remnant of the Lost Colony, or of the proud Saponi, or of some other group, these people have lived in the rolling hills and high plains northeast of Roxboro for countless generations. No one knows how long.
According to E. L. Wehrenberg, for 17 years principal of the community school, it was not until 1920 that they were officially recognized by act of the North Carolina legislature as Person County Indians. Before that, however, they had always insisted upon being treated either as Indians or whites. Back in the days of subscription schools, they hired their own white teachers; and under the present county school system have always had white or Indian teachers.
Wehrenberg estimates that there are about 70 families in the group. and that about two-thirds of the people live in Person County and the rest across the line in Virginia. This proportion has changed from time to time he says.
Vance,
I read your post before but didn’t know what to say..I don’t know if this is helpful but these names are definately part of a group of related families in the piedmont area..our Jones/Collins thread is mixing Coleman names and others out of Person Co too. I am sure someone here is much more knowledgeable than I am on Saponi names..I still feel like a newcomer compared to many. Sue J
The Coleman surname does indeed extend well beyond the confines of High Plains. There are 2 small Coleman family cemeteries in the southern end of the county that we are trying to find. Coleman is intimately connected with the people under discussion on the Jones/Collins thread, as well as Becky’s Whitefield group 10 miles north of this group.
I’ve traced and posted several related lines of EPPS and COLEMAN to the Forum. Use the ‘search’ button.
Bill
Off old Hwy 48 in Person Co, NC, a Coleman family cemetery.
According to the 1937 WPA survey (Becky and I have not visited this cemetery):
Jane Coleman / 5-17-1816 / 10-21-1873
John J Coleman / 5-24-1845 / 11-2-1917
Julia A Coleman / 4-27-1836 / 2-17-1915
Robert Coleman / 2-23-1809 / 9-2-1863
(also 5 Whitfield graves)
Thanks Sue — that was a great article.
Thanks Dreaming Hawk — you are doing a great thing looking up all those old cemeteries. People not yet born will have you to think for being able to find their ancestors.
Bill,
thank you too. You’ve put a lot of time into other people’s genealogy.
I hope my friend will come back here and respond. I think she said she was doing this for her husbands family. Maybe he’ll respond too.
thanks yall
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