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September 18, 2005 at 9:48 pm #1743
Hi All! I just sent a test kit in to GreenTree. Can anyone tell me exactly what this test kit will show? I was under the impression when I contacted GreenTree that this test kit will show if I have Native American Ancestry. Is this correct? I’ve written to some of you in email, thanks to all and anyone that will respond to my questions. Best Regards, Jake
September 18, 2005 at 9:48 pm #16523Which test did you order? They have a few that might show evidence of Indian blood.
September 18, 2005 at 9:48 pm #16525It’s the swab kit, I guess I should specify which side the ancestry is on, is that correct? It will come from my mother’s side, or does it matter with the test? Thanks, Jake
September 18, 2005 at 9:48 pm #16528Jake, I just sent my test kit in to genetree last Wednesday. I took the AncestrybyDNA test. It is supposed to show the % of Native American, Europian, African or Asian a person has. According to the information that I read it dosen’t matter which side your Native blood comes from because they are not testing the x or y in your DNA but rather they are testing a 3rd component. I can’t remember right off hand what it is. It well take about 6 weeks to get the results.
September 18, 2005 at 9:48 pm #16532Thanks Wvaram, fellow WVa boy here. Best Regards, Jake
September 18, 2005 at 9:48 pm #16537Your welcome Jake. I am really looking forward to finding out what the tests results say. That way I can show my family that what I have found written on paper is true. Because DNA well tell the truth about our ancestors.
September 18, 2005 at 9:48 pm #16542I’ve had some relatives send their children to college on the Native American college fund, on words alone. I don’t think it’s correct, I want to put this to bed once and for all, so the DNA test will be conclusive? Is that correct? Thanks & Best Regards, Jake
September 18, 2005 at 9:48 pm #16544I thought you had to be enrolled in a federally recognized tribe to qualify for the Native American College fundl.
September 18, 2005 at 9:48 pm #16549Yes, I believe so. If the courts accept DNA tests to prove who a parent is then what our DNA says about our heritage should be just as reliable. That is just the way I fell about it.
September 18, 2005 at 9:48 pm #16552I don’t think anyone was registered with any tribe. This upsets me, as in my opinion, it’s just another kick in the pants, unless this claim can be verified, I”m not sure it should ever have been accepted. I’m not on poor terms with my relatives, but right is right. Maybe I will be on poor terms after this DNA comes back, depending upon the results I guess. Jake
September 18, 2005 at 9:48 pm #16723Are there any DNA tests I should avoid?
I’ve been thinking about pursuing the test for a while now. I am not trying to qualify for scholarships or anything like that but I would like official proof. I know that I am a Black Indian but I would like to take the test and share the results with my relatives.
Thanks
Erica
September 18, 2005 at 9:48 pm #16728I am not sure if I want to trust this testing center.
Erica
BBB Reliability Report
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Serving Utah
5673 South Redwood Road #22
Salt Lake City, UT 84123
GeneTree DNA Testing Center
2495 South West Temple
Salt Lake City, UT 84115
Telephone: (888) 404-4363
Fax: (801) 461-9755
The BBB reports on members and non-members.
Original Business Start Date: July 2001 Incorporated: November 2000, UT
Principal: Mr James Sorenson , Owner File Open Date: May 2003
Service Contact: Chris Harmston , Q A Manager
TOB Classification: Medical Testing Companies
BBB Membership: This company is a member.
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Relative Genetics
Sorenson Genomics LLC
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The Bureau processed a total of 6 complaints about this company in the last 36 months, our standard reporting period. Of the total of 6 complaints closed in 36 months, 4 were closed in the last year.
These complaints concerned:
1 Advertising Issues,
2 Delivery,
1 Product Quality, and
2 Customer Service.
They were closed as:
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September 18, 2005 at 9:48 pm #16740Hey, thanks, Erica,
This is just an observation and personal opinion of mine on the subject.
I’m somewhat familiar with Relative Genetics (the LDS based and funded lab which ancestry.com uses) and I can understand how “Advertising Issues” were the bulk of the BBB complaints but I think they are on the “up and up” at the Lab but only ‘relative’ to the complicated “input” issues from LDS that they are attempting to address, in as much as the “product quality” is part-and-parcel of the “Advertising Issue” complaints which ancestry.com also shares.
My take is that this ‘preformance deficientcy’ rests primarily upon what people presume/expect DNA tests can deliver, vis-e-vie what they have “learned” in “news accounts” [delivered by persons who quite obviously think WE are the dumbies but keep in mind that they have only Broadcast Communications degrees (how to look the part and act the part and how to perfect their ‘delivery’ – but they have no science, history or any other education and seldom, and more likely than not, never, investigate the stories they are reporting)], compared in the customers’ minds against what was “delivered”, i.e., that which is scientifically feasible vs. what was implied in their ‘promised’ product – That “Ad Agency” should be put out of business permanently. If anyone agreed with that, they would help by not placing orders with ancestry.com for gen tests but the other “Labs” are even worse in all respects. So, we do this in hopes of finding an additional clue but ‘double-thinking’ those ‘received’ results is mandatory and anyone should get a second opinion from at least a second or third Lab. You may be surprised by the variance of results compared to results received from one’s first Lab results.
This DNA ‘ethnic testing’ for genealogical purposes is in its infancy and it is truely a ‘buyer beware’ product. You can not take their results to the “bank”.
Bill
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