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Dreaminghawk wrote: Found another READE……. looking through notes on siblings of my ancesters. EDWIN BARNETTE READE married SARAH MEADOWS. I’ll see what else I find in Person co Heritage books index.
Other marriages of sibling Meadows, Newtons, and Lunsfords give us surnames of …… DUNCAN (on my mother’s side), COZART, ROGERS, CRIDER, MANGUM, OAKLEY, FOWLER, BLALOCK, REGAN, CLAYTON, WATERS, DAVIS, HUNT, MINOR, LATTA, CHANDLER, BEAVERS, FARNES, SMITH, CLARK, COPLEY, TAYLER, SURLS, HOOVER, WILLIAMS, HILL, RIDING, CARVER, WEAVER, PERKINS, HORTON, JACKSON, POPE, TILTON, MITCHELL, BAGWELL, WATSON, DAY, ROBERTS, HUDSON, LYNCH.
All these are 18th and 19th century.
I’m searching for relatives of my Grandfather named Sylvester Davis. I do not know his mother or father’s names. Nor, if he had brothers or sisters. He was said to be of Creek/Blackfoot/Cree ancestry. Migrated to Minnesota in 1889 where he died in 1910. Born in Va. in 1855, he married Eleanor Jackson, born in 1870 … possibly in Greenwood, Mississippi. But prior to that, he was married to someone else whose name I do not know and they had two sons. Eleanor Jackson was my grandmother. She and Sylvester had 10 children, one of the youngest was my mother Harriet. If anyone has information that might help me find more on Sylvester Davis I would appreciate it. As far as I know, none of my aunts or uncles knew what tribal roll he belonged to. They are all dead now including my mother. Thanks for any help. -dottiehp
Dottiehp,
I’ve moved your inquiry to its own thread.
Did Sylvester and Eleanor Davis live in St.Paul, Mn?
Bill
I think I found Eleanor’s parents and a brother, but haven’t found much on Sylvester Sr. yet.
St. Paul is in Ramsey County, Mn.
From Minn. Death Record Index:
Sylvester Davis, d. 11 July 1910, Ramsey Co., Mn.
Eleanor Davis, d. 18 Nov 1914, Ramsey Co., Mn.
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1910 Ramsey Co., Mn Census; ED 120 St. Paul, Ward 8; 21 April; Sheet 9 B; Address: 900 Simcoe St;
Household 175:
JACKSON, Andrew; Porter, m, Mu, 36, m’d 1x; m’d 9 yrs; born Ms, Tn, Tn.
………., Alice O. ; Wife, f, Mu, 31, m’d 2x?, 9 yrs; b. Ala, Va, NC.
………., Leola; dau, 5, b. Mn.
………., Elnora; dau, 6, Mn.
………., Alice; dau, 3, Mn.
(Andrew appears to be Eleanor Jackson Davis’s brother. He was born in Mississippi and his father and mother were both listed as born in Tennessee altho the records conflict as to where they were born.)
(Alice had 4 children with 3 still living)
Household 176 (same census as above & next door) :
DAVIS, Sylvester; laborer, m, B, 56, m’d 2x, m’d 25 yrs; Ms, Va, Va.
…….., Elenora; Wife; f, B, 42, m’d 1x, 25 yrs; Ms, Va, Tn.
…….., Eugenia; dau, 22, Ms.
…….., John; son; 18, Mn
…….., James; son, 12, Mn.
…….., Harry; son, 9, Mn.
…….., Clarence; son, 7, Mn.
…….., Beatrice; dau, 5, Mn.
…….., HARRIETTE; dau, 3, Mn*******
(Eleanor has had 10 children and 9 are living)
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1900 Ramsey Co., Mn Census; ED138 St. Paul, Ward 9; 11 June; Sheet 9B & 10A; Household 176:
DAVIS, Sylvester; Porter; B, m, b. unknown date; 45, m’d 14 yrs; Ms, Va,Va.
……., Eleanor; Wife; B, f, (born) Feb 1870; 30, m’d 14 yrs; Ms, Va, Tn.
……., Sylvester; son, Dec 1887, 12, Ms.
……., Eugenia; dau, Jan 1889, 11, Ms.
……., Glorria; dau, Jul 1890, 9, Ms.
……., John; son, Apr 1892, 8, Mn.
……., James; son, Dec 1897, 2, Mn.
……., Henry; son, Apr 1900, 1 month, Mn.
JACKSON, Charlotte; Boarder, B, f, b.unknown date, 71, widow, Tn, NC, Ky.
………, Andrew; Boarder, B, m, Jun 1872, 27, Ms, Va, Tn.
MADISON, Mary; Boarder, B, f, Apr 1885, 15, Ms, La, Ms.
(Charlotte appears to be Eleanor’s mother and Andrew her brother on previous census. Mary Madison may be unrelated)
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This family was ennumerated twice, about 5 months apart in 1880.
Some info is different but I’m fairly certain it’s the same family.
1880 St. Louis Co., Mo Census; ED41 St. Louis (city); 12 Nov; pg. 18 B; Household 207:
JACKSON, General; B, m, 61, m’d, Laborer, Va, Va, Va.
……….., Charlotte; B, f, 54, m’d, Wife, Tn, Ky, Ky.
……….., Ellinois (?); B, f, 11, dau, Ms. (Eleanor)
……….., Andrew; B, m, 9, son, Ms.
AND….
1880 St. Louis Co., Mo Census; ED14 St. Louis (city); 5 June; p.15 C; Household 109:
JACKSON, General; B, m, 60, Gardner, Va, Va, Va.
……….., Charlotte; Mu, f, 55, Wife, Tn, Tn, Tn.
……….., Elenora; Mu, f, 11, dau, at school, Ms, Va, Tn.
……….., Andrew; Mu, m, 9, son, at school, Ms, Va, Tn.
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1870 Washington Co., Ms Census; P.O. Leota, Ms; 9 Aug; p. 282; Household 2546:
JACKSON, General; 50, m, B, Farm Hand; $0, $0, Ala (?)
…………, Charlotte; 48, f, B, Tenn.
…………, Georgia, 20, f, B, Ms.
…………, Margaret, 18, f, B, Ms.
…………, Laura, 17, f, B, Ms.
…………, Ellen, 1, f, B, Ms. (Eleanor)
PERRY, Harriet; 24, f, B, Farm Hand, Ms.
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The rest of Andrew Jackson’s family:
1920 Ramsey Co., Mn Census; ED 100 St. Paul, Ward 8; 5 Jan; Sheet 3B; Household 68: (all children “Mu” )
JACKSON, Andrew; Janitor-Police Station; m, Mu, 46, Ms.
…………, Alice; wife, f, Mu, 40, Ala.
…………, Eleanor; dau, 16, Mn.
…………, Lola L. ; dau, 14, Mn.
…………, Alice; dau, 12, Mn.
…………, Archie; son, 9, Mn.
…………, Gladys; dau, 6, Mn.
…………, Florence; dau, 1 yr 10 months, Mn.
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Info from World War I Draft Registrations for Sylvester and Eleanor’s sons and her brother:
James Davis, b. 24 Dec 1894, St. Paul, Mn.
John Lamare Davis, b. 10 April 1892, St. Paul, Mn.
Sylvester Davis, b. 14 Dec 1887.
Andrew Jackson, b. 2 June 1873.
James, John & Sylvester all used the same home address of 322 13th St., St. Paul, Mn., altho Sylvester noted 249 Georgia St., under his signature.
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This doesn’t answer your question of tribal affiliation.
Bill
Bill … WOW … AMAZING … AND THANK YOU. You have the right family. Charlotte has been elusive since she left the plantation of Pres. Andrew Jackson, not very long after he died in 1845.
In the St. Paul city directory, she listed a husband as General, in one year and John in another. He was deceased at the time. I never knew the name of Eleanor and Andrew’s father but from what I see that you have found, he must be the same ‘General’ or ‘John.’ No, it does not help yet in the tribal confimation of Sylvester. I suspect he must have met and married Eleanor in MS.
Mary Madison is another mystery to me. I followed her in St. Paul until adulthood when she and my aunt Eugenia worked at a twine factory. She always seemed to follow Charlotte wherever she lived in Mn. and came to St. Paul at age 5, with Charlotte, Eleanor and Eleanor’s 3 small children. General was not around then. He must have gotten gone in Mo.
Back to Sylvester again. He definitely was of Creek descent and no mention of black ancestors at all from family members. That is not to say, he was not a black Indian. (So I’m told by his daughter, (Harriet … my mother.) Also told by all my uncles and aunts (his children) as well as my great uncle Andrew (Eleanor’s brother), all of whom I knew. He was Bronze in color, a small and wiry man, they said, as well.
I think one of his son’s by a previous marriage was named Finus? I used to know the other one’s name but forgot it.
All I could find on Sylvester, was info I got from his death certificate. Obviously, since Eleanor died after he did, she didn’t know or record his paternal info anyplace that I can find.
There is some family lore reference to relationship to Chief Sitting Bull, but I’m not certain if it is through Sylvester or through Andrew’s wife Alice, whom I am certain is related to the Chief … in close generation through her mother. Incidently, Lakota Indians came to both Sylvester’s and Andrew’s funerals.
Since, Eleanor and Sylvester had three children by the time she came to MN in 1889 – 1900, I figure they married in MS where their first three children were born.
Hello Bill;:(
I’ve been searching but to no avail. Sylvester Davis still alludes me. My sister says he might have been Guinea instead of Suponi. It appears he must have met and married 16 year old Eleanor Jackson in Mo. The family, including Charlotte Jackson came to Minnesota in approx. 1890. Her son Andrew appears alone in 1888 Census first and Sylvester appears alone about a year later. Then he and Andrew appear, living together. Minnesota census in 1905 says Eleanor, her children and Charlotte came 6 years prior to 1905 and apparently she was already married to Sylvester and already had 3 small children. Charlotte’s husband General or John, did not appear with the family then. I wonder if the 4 females on 1870 Mo. Census; Georgia, Margaret, Laura Jackson & Ellen Perry, and that I am not familiar with, are in some way related to Sylvester … or, if they are Tennessee Jackson’s? I think I mentioned before, that Sylvester was married once before Eleanor. I do not know who that person was or where she came from. If you can work your magic, I would appreciate any thing you can do for me. Thanks Bill. Sincerely; -dottie.
p.s. On Charlotte’s son Andrew’s side, he married (Black/Lakota) Alice West who was direct descendant of Sitting Bull. Per my oral history, though the black Jackson’s had Cherokee blood, the black Wests (Lakota’s) were at odds … because of heritage and relationship to the hated, Pres. Andrew Jackson, who was instrumental in causing the ‘trail of tears’ and his propensity for detesting Indians in general. -dottie :confused:
How did the Jacksons come to be related to Andrew Jackson? I’ve heard the theory that Indian/mixed blooded people would give that name (or a similar ‘patriotic’ name) to their children to, I guess, show they were not ‘enemies.’
The Guinea name may not disclude Indian and/or Saponi roots. I’ve heard the name applied to mix blooded black/Indian people in West Virginia.
Also, did you already know that there was Black blood in this line, or are you assuming this because of the census notations? If the latter, this may not mean African origins at all. Back east it was legislated that there be only two races, white or black, so Indian people were assigned to one or the other, whether they had any such blood or not.
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