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October 20, 2006 at 3:04 pm #2592
Hi ya folks,
I have been tracing one of my lines that I pretty much ignored until now and it has lead me to these families of Brunswick and Mecklenburg Counties in Va. I know there has been alot of talk on these families here on this forum what can ya’ll tell me about them? Hudson, Harris, Briggs, Giles, Knowles, Page
Linda
October 20, 2006 at 3:04 pm #23322It looks like my ggggggrandmother was Frances Harris of Brunswick County VA
October 20, 2006 at 3:04 pm #23324I have Hudson and Harris, only info is family traditions that they were Blackfoot and from Virginia. I wonder if a DNA test could show if we were cousins. If it could, that would be a pretty strong indicator that my Harrises and Hudsons were from the same area.
October 20, 2006 at 3:04 pm #23325Linda,
I got this off Ancestry but it says Frances parents were Sherrod Harris and Hannah Page…William parents William Harris and Mary Giles from Tuckahoe Creek Henrico I believe
October 20, 2006 at 3:04 pm #23326I meant Sherrod parents
October 20, 2006 at 3:04 pm #23327This family is all over the place too. Goochland, Henrico, Brunswick, Mecklenburg Counties and in Union County, Anson County in North Carolina…there also a Union in South Carolina…back and forth back and forth to these places…they are in Henrico in 1710 in Brunswick in 1733 in Goochland in 1760’s.
October 20, 2006 at 3:04 pm #23328Looks like they made a short stop in Edgecombe/Wilson area before heading to Anson and Union to the south of us…Frances Harris married Issac Eason in Edgecombe.
October 20, 2006 at 3:04 pm #23330Linda and Linda,
Thought I would jump in here too. This is kind of a rough draft and I don’t have ancestry.com but…..
I show William Harris and Mary Giles having at least 8 sons and a daughter.
But what I saw was a generation in between Sherrod and Wm and Mary Giles…William Harris and Judith Hudson.
Anyway, another son of William Harris and Mary Giles was Richard married unknown…son Richard married Priscilla Holmes and son Charles Harris married Sarah Allen. This is a daughter of Allen/Tinsley marriage.
Also, Two of Robert Allen Jr daughters married Hudson brothers. Sons of Isaac Hudson. Isaac Hudson son of Henry and Mary Russell, son of Robert. Robert also has son Robert with a son Peter Hudson, married to Martha Briggs Pride, marriage 1. to a Woodson and 2. Peter Hudson…have a daugher Judith born c1708 Henrico, va. Is this confusing?:) 🙂
saj
October 20, 2006 at 3:04 pm #23333Sue,
You’re right about William Harris and Judith Hudson I forgot about them when I typing away.
Linda
October 20, 2006 at 3:04 pm #23338Linda,
I don’t know if a DNA test could prove something like that or not. It would be interesting if it could. I just thought they were doing Y and mtDNA tests and my DNA would not turn up Harris DNA since this is from my maternal grandfather. My mtDNA is that of my maternal grandmother…sorry Mom didn’t pass on her father’s DNA.
Linda
October 20, 2006 at 3:04 pm #23343I’m sure they do have tests that will show if you are related to someone within so many generations. I’ve heard of tests that will show that, given certain genetic markers, it’s highly unliikely you are not related to someone. I guess it’s along the same lines as paternity tests.
Another coincidence, my great grandfather was FRANCES Marion Harris. They repeat given names a lot in that side of the family. Like my great grandmother was MaLINDA Harris.
Sue, we also have a William Harris.
October 20, 2006 at 3:04 pm #23345Quoting from a web page about him:
Francis Marion was an American revolutionary war hero, nicknamed the “Swamp Fox” by the British because of his elusive tactics.
I just mention it, because those two names “go together,” like George and Washington, Thomas and Jefferson, Lorenzo and Dow, etc.
October 20, 2006 at 3:04 pm #23346Linda wrote: I’m sure they do have tests that will show if you are related to someone within so many generations. I’ve heard of tests that will show that, given certain genetic markers, it’s highly unliikely you are not related to someone. I guess it’s along the same lines as paternity tests.
Linda and Quest for facts,
I’m going to jump in here because I’m seeing first-hand what DNA can and can’t do. I have paid for tests for a cousin with a particular surname and for a different test for my father. I had to get a male from the family to test for the surname project because Y-DNA only tests the males in the direct line. And they can tell you statistically what the “odds” are that you may or may not be related to an certain individual within a certain number of generations. In this way, it’s sort of like a paternity test. It’s always been my understanding that they can’t really tell you who the father of someone is–just who it probably isn’t. Of course, they’re learning more about DNA all of the time, and if you have an unlimited money supply, they could probably be a lot more precise. However, no matter how much a woman can pay, they still can’t take a YDNA test.
It’s the same thing with mtDNA. They can give you the odds that you might or might not be related to someone else within a certain number of generations. And it’s still only in a direct line. It’s the DNA passed down from a mother to her children. If I would pay for YDNA and MtDNA tests for my father and brother, the YDNA test results for both would be the same. However, the MtDNA tests would be different. Daddy’s would show the DNA passed down by his mother, who got it from her mother, who got it from her mother, etc. My brother’s MtDNA would show the DNA passed on by our mother, that she got from her mother, and her maternal grandmother, etc.
I suspected some NA in my father’s family, but not in a direct line. I had done the research and I was finding possibilities, but nothing that would show up on either the YDNA or mtDNA tests. So I had him take a “Whole DNA” test. This takes a sampling from all of the DNA contributed by ALL ancestors and results are given in percentages. However, this will NOT tell you who probable cousins are. For my father, it came out that he had 96% European ancestry and 4% East Asian ancestry. Although, the East Asian ancestry could indicate NA. They said that the 4% would indicate that one of his great-great-great grandparents was East Asian (or NA). Now, I have lots of information on his family way past his 3rd great grandparents and none of them were from East Asia. I exchanged emails with someone from the lab and he said that based on what I was saying that it was definitely NA–and since there was nothing in the generation of the 3rd great-grandparents, the 4% could indicate multiple lines further back. The information says that certain NA tribes can show up as East Asian on DNA tests, but the examples of tribes that were given were not likely in my family (Navaho, for example) Two possibilities on that side of my family are the Micmac Indians of Canada and Houma Indians of Louisiana. However, I don’t have the proof. I have seen evidence that siblings of my direct ancestors married into these tribes, but never anything that says that my direct ancestor married into them.
When I get enough money, I will have my mother’s sister tested for Whole DNA or the DNA Fingerprint test. I suspect a lot more NA (and other) on this side of the family. This would show more of a Melungeon type admixture but again, it can’t tell you who you are related to.
Sorry this post is so long!
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