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March 25, 2003 at 3:32 pm #614
O’siyo, I am new and glad to be here!
Does anyone have information regarding families in the Louisa County Area, including, but not limited to Fluvanna, Albermarle, Orange, Culpepper, Spotsylvania or Goochland? My 88 year old great aunt, who resides in Louisa (my mother’s family is from the Piedmont area, including Louisa) has told family members that her great grandmother was Indian, and great grandfather was Indian/White. They and their childrent were listed as Mulatto on the 1870 Louisa Co, Va Trevilians Depot census. My great aunt and her siblings, including my grandmother, now deceased, are listed as mulatto through 1920. I am also seeking information on the following surnames: Michie, Jackson, Hooper, Holland, Waldrop, Martin, Poindexter, Quarles, Spicer, Morris. If you have any information on any of the families in Louisa County in particular, I would appreciate if you would let me know.
WaDo
March 25, 2003 at 3:32 pm #7268There are those who feel Jackson is a name found among some Nanticoke families. Some feel Martin can be Meherrin or Saponi. Pointdexter and Morris has been associated with families believed to be Indian in the Southeast.
March 25, 2003 at 3:32 pm #15476Hi,
My name is Davida and I am new to the group. I am a Quarles descendant and my ancestors married Poindexters. My great great great grandparents were Ralph Quarles and Lucy Langston. Lucy was supposed to have had Native American ancestry. Some surnames associated with the family are Powell, Rickmond, Carroll, and Poindexter. My great great grandmother, Maria Langston Powell, had over 20 children and they lived in Louisa County, VA. I have been trying desperately to find out what happened to the rest of the family after my family moved into southern WV. I even called familiar names in the phone book hoping to find someone. Other associated surnames from this area are Hughes, Walton, Branham, and Farrer.
If you go to the Louisa genealogy site at http://trevilians.com, you might be able to find something useful. There was a Dr. Waltrop who used to post and watch the queries from the area on the list. He may have some info on the Waltrops.
Hope to hear from you!!!
March 25, 2003 at 3:32 pm #15478Dear Lynnd,
Louisa and the other counties you mentioned are in my region: Central VA.
My family (mother’s side) tracks to Albemarle CO,VA.(Charlottesville).(Please
check “Introduction Roca”,March,2005)
Don’t freak out if Native ancestors may have been listed as mulatto,black,
FPC,white,African,Negro,colored.I learned
on this list about Plecker,who once oversaw VA vital records.He felt VA had no Indians and those that were were very
mixed.So he changed records to reflect his beliefs.
I hope you find what you’re looking for.:)
Roca
March 25, 2003 at 3:32 pm #15482Davida and Roca,
Thank you so much for responding to my post.
Right now, I am visiting with my fiance and his family in Ireland and am due to return in September.
As soon as return to Florida, I will post with whatever information I have about “our” families.
I have just discovered a lot of information about my mother’s father and his mother’s family (Robinson family of Fort Spring, West Virginia) who, as my research has revealed, were considered “melungeon.”
Looking forward to chatting with you both.
Kind Regards and Wado
Lynn
March 25, 2003 at 3:32 pm #15483Roca, thanks for your insight.
Davida, please post what specific info you know about your ancestors and we’ll try to help.
Lynnd, your counties are in the middle of part of an older Eastern Siouan heartland. Please post specifics about ancestors and we’ll try to help.
Bill
March 25, 2003 at 3:32 pm #15516Hi Roca,
You spoke of the use of the many different racial designations for Native Americans during the Plecker’s time in charge. Have you done any research on the designations much earlier, the 1800s for example? I really want to discuss any perceived patterns with regards to racial designations to aid in research. Some sort of pattern caught my attention when I started researching the Quarles/Langston Family and was curious if you’d noticed anything in your research.
Regards,
Davida
March 25, 2003 at 3:32 pm #15522Dear Davida,
I haven’t done too much research on the racial designation of Native Americans
in VA;most of what I’ve learned about that I’ve learned here.
However,I’ve indicated in a previous post and on my profile that I’m triracial
(was raised “Afro”) and love to study
African-American and Native American history.
According to historian Bryan Fulks in
“Black Struggle”,VA was constantly changing its legal definition of “Negro”.
Before 1910,1/4 or more African ancestry,1910-1930,1/16 or more,1930+,any known African ancestry.
(page 239)
In “The Negro in 20th Century America” edited by John Hope Franklin and Isidore Starr,state laws are listed which attempt to define the races for legal purposes.
Page 7 of this work lists a portion of the “Michie Code” (1942).This law lists anyone of ascertainable “Negro blood” to
be a “colored person” except if one was 1/4 or more Indian and less than 1/16 Negro,with no other non-Caucasian ancestry,he/she would be considered a tribal person as long as said person lived on a VA reservation.
Personally,I’m glad we’re getting over this silliness which was based in our previous history of segregation.For example,here in Central VA,the Hemings
descendants (Sally Hemings,quadroon slave,by Thomas Jefferson as father) meet every year;they’re of every shade.
Roca
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