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This is from another thread that I kinda hijacked (sorry). So I thought I would start a new one.
Originally posted by rockhound
Why would he state that Moses Riddle’s descendants were not Melungeons? I have wondered this myself.
Moses lived near and is associated with Collins, Bunch’s, and Gibsons. Even if Moses wasn’t a Melungeon himself, I thought his wife was a Collins, thereby making his descendants Melungeons, right?
From what I understand, between about 1800 and 1830 the Riddles lived near Kyle’s Ford, TN and also in down in Bledsoe County, TN.
Why didn’t they stay around Hancock and Hawkins County with the rest of the families? Did any others move to Bledsoe County, TN?
They did live in Hawkins County. I guess John Riddle grew up there. That is how he married Sary (Sarah) Johnson, who was from Hawkins County as well.
I am kind of answering my own question here in a way, but looking over stuff I recieved from Mary Hill I find that John Riddle may have been raised by the James Roberts family and Rogers family members. I think James Roberts is the same man that John Riddle’s brother, James, was bound to after their dad was hanged.
“Family tradition in the Texas/Utah Riddle family is that John was raised in Hawkins county, TN by the James Roberts family and Rogers family members after the death of his mother, Harriet “Happy” Rogers Roberts Riddle Ingram. His mother had married William Ingram after the death of his father, William Riddle, but she died shortly thereafter in Hawkins county, TN.”
Now, in 1830, the Riddles, James Roberts, and William Ingram (Happy Riddles second husband) are found in Bledsoe County, TN.
John Riddle 000210001-001000001;
next door to William Ingram 100000001-1100001;
James Roberts 1110001-1310101;
Thomas Riddle 1001001-121101.
Soon after, a large majority of this Riddle group moved to Pulaski County, MO.
My question is, why did they move from Hawkins County down to Bledsoe County, TN?
Did any other “Saponi-related” or “melungeon-related” (I use these terms loosely) groups move down to Bledsoe County?
Hi,
I’m curious about the Roberts family you mention that were in Hawkins County, TN. Do you know any more about the family of this James Roberts or where might have come from prior to being in Hawkins County? Also, are you suggesting that these Roberts may have a Melungeon connection, or just the other families you mention?
Sorry, that’s a lot of questions, I suppose. The surname did jump out at me, though. One of my ancestors was an Abiah Roberts that was married to Joseph Morrisette. This family was in Hawkins County, having moved there some time prior to 1791 and they were in the Rogersville area. Prior to moving to Tennessee (which, of course, was not actually Tennessee yet), they were located in Camden Co., NC in the portion near Princess Ann County, Virginia. My Abiah Roberts was born in Princess Ann.
I don’t much about her family, but it may be possible that some Roberts migrated to Hawkins County along with the Morrisettes. If any of these names or locations seem like a possible connection, I’d certainly be interested in discussing it.
Thanks,
Randall
To be honest with you, I don’t know. The Roberts seemed to be associated with the Riddle’s by marriage. I have seen Happy Riddle’s maiden name listed as Rogers and Roberts…I don’t know if anyone is certain which. It would make sense that James would be an uncle to the kids since he helped raise them, but I just don’t know for certain.
Note: The orphan James Riddle was to live with James McCorkle, not James Roberts.
Thanks. I may try to do some detective work on those Roberts to see if they might somehow be connected to mine. As I said, my Abiah Roberts was from Princess Ann County, VA and I know there are some mixed race/Indian people associated with that area. The Nansemonds come to mind and possibly others I’m not thinking of. Seems like I recall that the Nansemonds were in the area of the Great Dismal Swamp, which is pretty much along the border area of Virginia – Princess Ann County on one side and Camden County, NC on the other, if my sense of geography is serving me correctly. Incidentally, the historical Princess Ann County no longer exists. Present day Virginia Beach now incorporates all of that former county. I was stationed in that area years ago when I was in the Navy. Little did I know back then that some of my ancestors were from the area and I haven’t been there since. I should have caught the family history bug earlier, I guess. 🙂
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