Searching for John W Goins

This was part of the Silver Run settlement on what is now Fort Bragg, made of in large part of Waldens, Goins, and other Indian families. Note that they Goins you are talking about are listed as white in the 1880 census, but are only a few houses away from the “mulatto” families of Neill Goins Sr, and Neill Goins, Jr. There is an old Goins Graveyard near this settlement, which once had it’s own church and school.

The Goins and Waldens in Quewhiffle and Little River Townships came from the Pocket Creek area of Moore County, which lost many of it’s records in a courthouse fire. Figuring out the family trees is often difficult. In 1850 Moore Co., there is a John Goins, 8 year old son of James Goins, which MAY be your ancestor. Household #775 In 1880, he is living next to an Arthur Goins, who is almost certainly some relation. Bill may be able to add to this.

The marriage record for H. W. Goins, dated 1888, and probably the same as the Wm. H. Goins listed in John and Lucy’s household in 1880, is listed a “colored”, the census listing notwithstanding. He married Lattia Walden at her father Henry Walden’s residence in Quewhiffle Township, Cumberland Co.

Both the Silver Run Settlement and the Pocket Creek Settlement in Moore Co have disintegrated today, with only graveyards hidden in the woods to mark their place. Silver Run might has emerged as a viable Indian community, except for the fact that the military base was created and all the landowners had to sell out and leave.

Forest says>>> Silver Run might has emerged as a viable Indian community, except for the fact that the military base was created and all the landowners had to sell out and leave

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Same deal with Camp Butner… dispersed Meadows, Mangum, Newton, Clements, Day, Jones, Goss, Hobgood, Bass, Bowling, and others in edge of Granville/Person. Funny how these govt projects seem prone to disrupting mixed blood and ndn groups.

Hey Will check out the following materials.

John Gowen was married to Ann Gowen January 11, 1810, ac-cording to “Albemarle County, Virginia Marriages, 1772-1850.” Children born to John Gowen and Ann Gowen Gowen are unknown.

John Gowen “of Albemarle County” received pay for military service in the French & Indian War. His compensation was authorized by the Virginia Assembly about 1760.

http://bz.llano.net/gowen/manuscript/Gowenms132.htm

This is some of the Goens research, a huge file.

Yeah, I was looking out for Bledsoe, too, but the surname is listed on a series of census records as Bedsole and earlier as Bedsaul.

1910 Montgomery Co., Ks Census; ED188 Parker Twp; 18 April; Sheet 2B; Household 39:

GOINS, John; farmer, m, W, 84, m’d 1x, m’d 45 yrs; NC, NC, NC.

…….., Lucy Ann; wife, f, W, 73, m’d 1x, m’d 45; NC, NC, NC.

…….., Sarah A.; Granchild; f, W, 9; Ok, NC, NC.

(Lucy Ann is purported to have d. 1916 in Delaware Co., Ok and buried in New Buzzard Cemetery there.)

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1900 Indian Territory, Cherokee Nation; ED26, Twp 22N, R25E; 14 June; Sheet 6B; Household 99:

GOINS, J. W.; farmer; W, m, — 1840, 60, m’d 35 yrs; NC, NC, NC.

…….., Lucy Ann; wife, W, f, Aug 1843 57, m’d 35; NC, NC, NC.

…….., Evander; son, Mar 1874, 26, NC.

…….., Franklin; son, — 1876, 24, NC.

…….., Lincoy; son, — 1878, 22, NC.

…….., John B; son, — 1882, 18, NC.

…….., Dolley E; dau, Apr 1885, NC.

…….., Becky Ann; dau, July 1887, 13, NC.

…….., Mattie L; dau, Feb 1889, 11, NC.

(Lucy has had 14 children, 10 still living)

James T. Goins (“Thomas”, b. Nov 1871 NC), is at Household 126 of this same census district with wife “Lizzie” (Sarah Elizabeth Gardner, b. Sep 1873, Ark.) and 4 children.

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1880 Cumberland Co., NC Census; ED64 Quewhiffle Twp; 9 June; p.8D; Household 72:

GOWENS, John; W, m, 38, farmer, NC, NC, NC.

……….., Lucy A.; W, f, 35, wife, NC, NC, NC.

……….., Mary J; 14, dau, NC.

……….., William H.; 12, son, NC.

……….., James T.; 9, son, NC.

……….., Ann N.; 7, dau, NC.

……….., Evans; 5, son, NC.

……….., Daniel F.; 3, son, NC.

……….., Lin K.; 2, son, NC.

Household 74 is Neill Gowens Sr, Mu, 69, NC.

Household 75 is Neill Gowens Jr, Mu, 26, NC.

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There is an online published family tree by a descendant of a John J. Goins, b. 10 Mar 1831 Moore Co., NC, that you need to be aware of since you’re attempting to matchup by DNA. This John Goins is purported to have married Lucy Ann Bedsole but they have the wrong John, as proven by the 1850 thru 1880 Moore Co., NC Census records, although this “other” John, b. 1831, is related (prob. 1st cousin) to John W., b.abt. 1842. I’ll list some info on this “other” John as we go.

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1870 Moore Co., NC Census; Carthage Twp # 1; 30 June; p.22; Household 149 (index error as “Guins”)

GOINS, James; 73, m, M (written over); $150, $25, NC.

…….., Natty; 70, f, W, NC.

Household 150:

GOINS, John W.; 28, m, W (written over); farmer, $300 R.E., $50 P.P, NC.

…….., Lucy A.; 24, f, W (“I” written over?); NC.

…….., Mary J.; 3, f, W, NC.

…….., Wm. H.; 1, m, W, NC.

BEDSOLE, Sarah M.; 20, f, W, NC (Lucy’s sister on earlier census)

BIRD, Matty L.; 30, f, B, NC.

(the ‘over writes’ appear to have been made with a different pen, so may have been made at a later time.)

The “other” John and 2nd wife Jane (Gowins, m’d 13 Nov 1862 Chatham Co., NC) are at household 126. This John also had a son William H., but he was born abt. 1860.

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1860 Moore Co., NC Census; P.O. Carthage; 2 July; p. 73; Household 528:

James GOINS; 62, m, – , farmer, $250, $400, NC.

Catherine…..; 24, f, – , NC

Amy…………; 22, f, – , NC.

James……….; 18, m, – , NC.

Mary E………; 7, f, – , NC.

JOHN………..; 20, m, – , NC.

The “other” John, 30, m, M, Cooper, $0, NC, is in P.O. Carhanton, NC, household 838, widowed with children Vestal 8, John D 6, Silus 4, Nissey 2.

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1850 Moore Co., NC Census; 17 October; p.217; Household 775:

James GOINGS; 58, m, M, Farmer, $100, NC.

Andrew………; 22, m, M, Farmer, NC.

Henry………..; 21, m, M, Farmer, NC.

Ursula………..; 15, f, M, NC.

Amy………….; 12, f, M, NC.

JOHN…………; 8, m, M, NC.

James………..; 6, m, M, NC.

Mary………….; 4, f, M, NC.

The “other” John, 21, m, M, NC, is in the household of John Goings, 58, m, M, NC and wife Lydia, 45, f, W, NC, with an older Rachel, 73, f, W, NC in their household.

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1840 Moore Co., NC Census lists:

Bob Gowens

Hubbard Gowens

Neill Gowens

John Gowens

Neill Gowins

1830 Moore Co., NC Census lsits:

Le?y (Levy? = Levi ?) Goins, age 55 to 100.

Edw’d Goins, age 36 to 55.

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Lucy Ann Bedsole’s family:

1880 Cumberland Co., NC Census; ED59 Cedar Creek; 17 June; p. 40B; Household 368:

BEDSOLE, William; W, m, 59, Cooper, NC, NC, NC.

……….., Lucy; W, f, 50, wife, NC, NC, NC (Lucretia Hales/Hailes)

……….., Frank; W, m, 17, NC.

……….., Ellen M.; W, f, 16, NC.

……….., Adline; W, f, 12, NC.

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1870 – not yet found.

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1860 Bladen Co., NC Census; P.O. Ellisville; 14 July; p.46; Household 328:

Wm. BEDSOLE; 36, m, – , Cooper, $0, $0, NC.

Lucretia……..; 33, f, – , NC

Calton……….; 16, m, – , NC

LUCY A. …….; 14, f, – , NC.

Martha J. …..; 13, f, – , NC

Sarah M. ……; 10, f, – , NC (lived with John & Lucy Goins in 1870)

Simon………..; 8, m, – , NC

Clarry C. ……; 4, f, – , NC

Mary M. …….; 1, f, – , NC

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1850 Bladen Co., NC Census; Subdivision on N.E. Side of Cape Fear (River); 4 Sept; p.87; Household 220 (index error as “Bedson”):

William BEDSOLE; 29, m, – , Laborer, $50, NC.

Lucretia………..; 21, f, – , NC

Calton………….; 6, m, – , NC

LUCY A. ……….; 4, f, – , NC

Martha J. ……..; 3, f, – , NC

Sarah M. ………; 1, f, – , NC

Household 221 (next door)

Owen BEDSOLE; 42, m, – , Farmer, $400, NC

Mary…………..; 30, f, – , NC

Nancy…………; 18, f, – , NC

Alex.’r………….; 6, m, – , NC

Sarah J. ………; 4, f, – , NC

Matilda…………; 3, f, – , NC

George…………; 1, m, – , NC

Sarah………….; 60, f, – , NC.

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1840 Bladen Co., NC Census households:

Daniel Bedsole, age 20 to 29.

Owen Bedsole, 40 to 49.

Owen Bedsole, 30 to 39. has a 15 to 19 yr old male in household.

Sarah Bedsole, 50 to 59. also has a 15 to 19 yr old male in household.

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1830 Bladen Co., NC Census households:

Duncan Bedsole, age 30 to 39. Female 30 to 39.

(marr. bond: Catherine HAIR on 6 May 1825, Cumberland Co., NC)

John Bedsole, 20 to 29. Female 20 to 29.

(marr. bond: Catherine HAIR on 19 Jan 1828, Cumberland Co., NC)

Sarah Bedsole, 40 to 49.

also in household:

1 male 5 to 9.

2 males 10 to 14.

1 male 20 to 29.

1 female 10 to 14.

1 female 15 to 19.

Sessoms Bedsole, 1 male 15 to 19, no females.

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Bill