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Anyone familiar with the Shelton and Sandlins of Clay county, KY?
I have a William Shelton and Margaret Sandlin marrying on 5 Nov. 1867 in Clay County KY. They are not there in 1870 nor are they in any neighbhoring counties that I can see.
Or simply any ideas or thoughts on where they “might” be would be helpful.
Sherry
Dear Sheree,
I wasn’t sure where Clay Co,KY was but I saw today it’s in E KY.
Shelton is a common name here in Central VA.It might help to search some of the counties in SW and Central VA.
Roca
Roca,
Thank you very much but I found William Shelton in Clay County, KY. I posted a message to the clay county ky mailing list and one person forwarded my message to another, another and another and before I knew it I had it ALL. Well, a lot anyway.
Yes, they did come from VA the oldsest says the VA Colony??????????
Thank you for offering your help.
Sherry
Personally, I have not verified this information as of yet with the exception of generation seven and beyond.
Descendants of James Sandilands
Generation No. 1
1. James1 Sandilands was born in Ireland. He married Anna Prudence Horn.
Child of James Sandilands and Anna Horn is:
+ 2 i. Nicholas Randolph2 Sandland, born 1665 in VA Colony.
Generation No. 2
2. Nicholas Randolph2 Sandland (James1 Sandilands) was born 1665 in VA Colony.
Child of Nicholas Randolph Sandland is:
+ 3 i. John3 Sandland, born 1700 in Goochland County, VA.
Generation No. 3
3. John3 Sandland (Nicholas Randolph2, James1 Sandilands) was born 1700 in Goochland County, VA. He married Elizabeth Frances. She was born 1704.
Child of John Sandland and Elizabeth Frances is:
+ 4 i. William4 Sandlin, born 1744 in Carolina County, VA.
Generation No. 4
4. William4 Sandlin (John3 Sandland, Nicholas Randolph2, James1 Sandilands) was born 1744 in Carolina County, VA. He married Massey Green. She was born 1750 in Sc.
Child of William Sandlin and Massey Green is:
+ 5 i. Lewis A5 Sandlin, born 1776 in Kings Creek, York Co, SC.
Generation No. 5
5. Lewis A5 Sandlin (William4, John3 Sandland, Nicholas Randolph2, James1 Sandilands) was born 1776 in Kings Creek, York Co, SC. He married Sarah Kennedy. She was born 1777 in NC.
Child of Lewis Sandlin and Sarah Kennedy is:
+ 6 i. John Kennedy6 Sandlin, born 14 Mar 1824 in Clay County, KY.
Generation No. 6
6. John Kennedy6 Sandlin (Lewis A5, William4, John3 Sandland, Nicholas Randolph2, James1 Sandilands) was born 14 Mar 1824 in Clay County, KY. He married (1) Jennie Brewster West. He married (2) Martha Ponder 04 Apr 1844 in Clay County, KY. She was born 25 Aug 1822 in Buncombe County, NC.
Child of John Sandlin and Martha Ponder is:
+ 7 i. Margaret7 Sandlin, born 27 Mar 1846; died 22 Jun 1924.
Generation No. 7
7. Margaret7 Sandlin (John Kennedy6, Lewis A5, William4, John3 Sandland, Nicholas Randolph2, James1 Sandilands) was born 27 Mar 1846, and died 22 Jun 1924. She married (1) Marion Muncie. He was born 12 Apr 1839. She married (2) William Shelton 05 Nov 1867 in Clay County, KY1, son of Samuel Shelton and Mary. He was born 30 May 1868, and died 01 Mar 1955.
Child of Margaret Sandlin and William Shelton is:
+ 8 i. Martha8 Shelton, born 1866.
Generation No. 8
8. Martha8 Shelton (Margaret7 Sandlin, John Kennedy6, Lewis A5, William4, John3 Sandland, Nicholas Randolph2, James1 Sandilands) was born 1866. She married Cam Williams. He was born 1862.
Child of Martha Shelton and Cam Williams is:
+ 9 i. Samuel Arthur9 Williams, born 12 Oct 1905.
Generation No. 9
9. Samuel Arthur9 Williams (Martha8 Shelton, Margaret7 Sandlin, John Kennedy6, Lewis A5, William4, John3 Sandland, Nicholas Randolph2, James1 Sandilands) was born 12 Oct 1905. He married Ellen Cumile Noe, daughter of Jarvis Noe and Cumile Bull. She was born 15 Feb 1907.
Child of Samuel Williams and Ellen Noe is:
10 i. Willie Gene10 Williams, born 28 Oct 1946 in Harlan County, KY. He married Brenda Day.
Endnotes
1. http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ky/clay/vitals/marriages/s5340001.txt.
Sheree,
Regarding your Gen6:
John Kennedy Sandlin, b.abt. 1824 NC
m’d 1st: Martha, b.abt. 1822 NC
their dau Margaret, b. abt. 1846 Ky
their dau Martha, b.abt. 1858 Ky
(per 1860 Owsley Co., Ky Census)
John m’d 2nd Ginney, b.1839 Va
(per 1870 Clay Co., Ky Census)
Your Gen7:
Marion Muncy, b.abt. 1839 Ind (later census show b.Ky)
m’d 1st: Mary Jane, b.abt. 1836 Va
(per 1880 Clay Co., Ky Census, ED 24 Bullskin Pct 6, p.512C)
7 houses before Marion & Mary Jane Muncy in 1880 visit 89, at visit 82:
Shelton, Margaret; Head; 33; widow; Ky, Ky, NC.
…………, William A.; 12, son, Ky, NC, Ky.
…………, Hiram; 7, son, Ky, NC, Ky.
…………, MARTHA; 6, dau, Ky, NC, Ky.*******
…………, Sarah; 4, dau, Ky, NC, Ky.
…………, Mary H.; 3, dau, Ky, NC, Ky.
…………, Emily; 2, dau, Ky, NC, Ky.
…………, Verrinda; 9 months (b.Aug), dau, Ky, NC, Ky.
You have an abstract of the 1900 Laurel Co., Ky Census showing Cam’s wife Martha b. Dec 1876, Ky, and additional census ages for this Martha are fairly consistent with that. I’d suggest that Cam’s wife Martha Shelton is the 6 yr old listed on the 1880 Clay census – no one else comes close, age-wise, and their mother’s were not named Margaret.
[Samuel C. Shelton, b.abt. 1826 Tenn, and wife Mary A., b.abt. 1835 Ky, did have a son William, but he was 16 on the 1870 Owsley Co., Indian Creek census, p.2, and living at home with his parents. I think this Samuel is a possible brother of the William Shelton, b.abt. 1822 Tenn, who was living next door to Henry PONDER, b.abt. 1829 NC, on the 1860 Clay Co., Ky Census, p.110.
John (Kennedy) Sandlin lived next door to this Henry Ponder in 1870 Clay Co Census.]
In 1900 Clay Co., Ky; ED33 Sextons Creek Mag Dist 6; Sheet 11A, Visit 175, is Margaret (Sandlin) Shelton’s son William, b. May 1865, living next to Marion Muncy, b. Apr 1839, and wife Margret, b. Mar 1845 Ky, with a Granddau Margret Shelton, b. Nov 1891, living with them.
It looks like some of the people who supplied you the information may have had their Margaret’s and Martha’s mixed up.
I haven’t found William and Margaret Shelton in 1870 either but I’ll see what I can do.
Bill
oh yhea this is a mess.
So the William shelton that I have in my records is actually the brother to MY Martha Shelton that married Cam Williams. I changed the information for Margaret and now I just need to figure out who William Shelton was.
So it looks as if Margaret was a Sandlin and the d/o John Kennedy Sandlin and Martha Ponder.
Now the William Shelton b. abt 1854? married whom? I’m confused here.
Sherry
Samuel Crawford Shelton, b. 1832 Washington Co., Tenn, married on 30 Dec 1852 in Clay Co., Ky, Mary Ann Gabbard, b. Mar 1840 Clay Co.
Their son William, b.abt. 1854 Clay Co., m’d Tabitha PAGE, although I don’t have a date on that marriage.
(Samuel Crawford Shelton is reported to have died in 1940 Clay Co., so maybe there’s a death cert on him? This could be a waste of money because after that length of time, no one may know who his parents were.)
William Shelton, b. 1868, could not be the William who marr’d Margaret Sandlin in 1867. This William is Margaret Sandlin Shelton’s son and you’re right, he’s the older brother of your Martha Shelton who marr’d Cam Williams.
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Living next door to Henry and Kiziah (McDaniel) Ponder in 1860 Clay Co., is William Shelton, b.abt. 1822 Tenn with wife Lavina, b.abt. 1826 “Clay Co”, Ky. William & Lavina’s children in 1860 are Susan, 7; George W., 4; & Rebecca, 3 months.
I think this William, b.1822, is the one that marr’d Margaret Sandlin in 1867. We’ll know for sure once we can find them or their children in 1870 – haven’t yet.
Samuel C(rawford) Shelton lives about 63 houses further along.
In 1850 however, “Crawford” Shelton, 20, b.Tenn., is working-out not far from William Shelton, 29, b.Tenn and wife Malvina, 23, b.Ky. I think Malvina is Lavina, altho I say that with a bit of forboding that they are different and Lavina is a Ponder, dau of John Ponder, who lived next door to Elizabeth Shelton (see below) – even tho the two Lavina’s ages don’t match very well.
Anyway, living among the PONDER families and only 7 houses from William Shelton, is one Elizabeth SHELTON, 80, b.Va.
I speculate….
She has no occupation and owns no real estate, so someone’s supporting her. She’s too old to be William’s mother if her age is recorded anywhere near her real age at that time, but she would plausibly be related – Samuel, William (and his wife) and Elizabeth are the ONLY Sheltons in 1850 Clay Co. I’m thinking she may also be closely related to the definitely related McDaniel’s and Ponder’s that surround her since if she is William’s grandmother, I’d think she would be living with him – but this kinda thing can really play with a person’s sense of logic 🙂
The Ponders and McDaniels seem to be intermarried with the ROBERTS, BAKERs and HOLCOMBs.
………………Clay County Marriage Records……
Marion Muncy + Margaret Shelton on 25 Feb 1885 in Clay Co.
Marion Muncy had previously m’d a Mary Jane _?_ and they were living in 1860 Perry Co., Ky with a 5 month old son John.
Bill
Page 2187
Josephus Ponder, Clay County, KY May 11, 1898
I was born in Bell County, KY June 10, 1834. My father was Joseph Ponder. He was born and reared in South Carolina. My great grandfather Ponder came to America from Ireland. I do not know where he landed nor where he settled but I supposed he came to South Carolina. As my father was raised there, I suppose my grandfather was reared there also. My father came to Buncombe, North Carolina before his marriage to Miss Catherine Holcomb. In 1834 he moved to Bell Co, KY where he stayed one year and returned to North Carolina and in 1844 he came to Clay County, KY and located on Sexton’s Creek. He died on the head of that creek about 1875. He had children as follows: Betsey (Daniel Murray), Mary (Levi Bailey), Martha (John Sandlin), Deligta (Reuben McDaniel), May (married ___McDaniel), Henry married Kizzie McDaniel, Sally (Nathan Holcomb), Nancy (William Baker), Josephus – myself, married Tabitha Murray.
My maternal grandfather was a soldier in the Revolutionary War. He said the sweetest morsel he ever ate was when in the army, he found a dead turkey which the maggots had taken in possession and this was his most palatable meal. This incident fixed the fact in my mind. I know that my father volunteered in teh war and then hired a substitute so it was not the war of 1812. My mother said that she supposed father was gone but in two or threee days he gave her an agreeable surprise by suddenly putting in his appearance at home.
My father had a brother Robert, who lived and died on NC My uncle John lived and died in Sexton. His son, Robert, has children as follows: William Ponder of the Rader Mills, Clay County, Andrew Jackson at Cumberland, Ia.: Joseph lives at Jasper, Arkansas: james G. in Rockcastle County, Livingstone: John J. lives at Camp Ground, Laurel Co, Boreing Po Jefferson PO Tuttle, Laurel County or Knox; Jacob K. Ponder lives in Garrard co on Dick’s River; Bettie , Jasper, Arkansas; Achsah (Sandlin); Siler PO
Uncle John had 16 children.
My father had a sister who married Robert Haley but I do not know where they lived. My uncle John had, besides Robert; children as follows: Zadock called “Zade” who went to Missouri; Jacob died near London leaving a large family; Jackson who lived in Wolfe; Joseph; Lawrence; and Patterson who settled in Wolfe County, KY Also Achsah; Bettie (James Moore); Malinda, Raney, Nancy, Dorcas(Kelly) all settled in Wolfe. So the Ponders in KY sprang from Joseph and John Ponder.
My mother had a brother, Abner Holcomb who came from NC and located in Jackson County. He had children as follows: Allen, John, Mason, James, Polly and Dorcas.
There is another set of Holcombs in Jackson who came from Leslie but I do not know what the relationship is. I think all the Ponders are related. All I have ever know were kin.
Soldier: William Shelton
Widow: Margaret Shelton
J. C. Napier (GDN)
Service: B. 7 Ky Inf
Application Certificate
State
1878 Feb 10? 249.101 268.064
1880 Oct. 13 277.981
1888 Jan. 24 366.541
KY
Name: William Shelton
Enlistment Date: 19 August 1861
Distinguished Service
Side Served: Union
State served: KY
Unit Numbers: 815
Service Record: Enlisted as a Private on 19 August 1861. Enlisted in Company B, 7th Infantry Regiment Kentucky on 22 September 1861. Mustered out Company B, 7th Infantry Regiment Kentucky on 5 October 1864 in Louisville, KY
Regimental History
Seventh Infantry
Kentucky
(3-years)
Seventh Infantry — Cols., Theophilus T Garrard, Reuben May, George W. Monroe, Lieut-Cols, Joel W. Ridgell, John Lucas, T.J. Daniel: Majs., Isaac H. Cardwell, Hugh W. Adams, Elisha B. Treadway.
This regiment was one of the first recruited in the state. It was organized at Camp Dick Robinson By Col. Garrard and mustered in the U.S. service by Gen. George H. Thomas, Sept. 22, 1861.
The engagement at Wild Cat was the first battle in which the regiment engaged, and in the spring of 1862 it participated in the expedition which resulted in teh capture of Cumberland Gap. It was in the celebrated retreat across Kentucky, and upon arriving at the Ohio River crossed to the Ohio side at Oak Hill.
It was then ordered to Gen. J.D. Cox in the Kanawha Valley and after remaining there a short time was ordered south to join the forces under Gen. Sherman, the advancing upon Vicksburg. In the late fall of 1862 it proceeded by river transport by way of Memphis to its destination and participated in the celbrated assault at Chickasaw Bluffs, which was a failure and great loss was incurred.
It remained with the forces under Gen. Sherman, and when Grant took charge of the Vicsburg expediton participated in all the movements, labors, and service incident thereto moving down the river below the city, crossin gto the east side, marching out to jackson, Miss. then turning and fighting the various battles preceding the siege, and was in the siege until the surrender.
In Cec, 1863 the regiment reenlisted, and in the veteran organization, received the veterans of the 19th and 22nd ky infantry. It remained on duty in the Department of the Gulf in May 1864, was ordered to join the Red River expediton under the command of Gen. Banks, in which campaign it suffered severely in killed, wounded and prisoners.
It then remained at Baton Rouge doing garrison duty until may 1, 1865, when it was ordered to Clinton, East Feliciana Parish, La. It remained at Clinton until ordered to Baton Rouge where it was mustered out on May 11, 1866, and embarked for Louisville, Ky at which place it received final payment and discharge.
Source:; The Union Army, Vol. 4, p. 322
Battles Fought:
Ship Island, MS
28 September 1861-Camp Boone, Ky
18 August 1862 at Flat Lick, KY
29 August1862 at Knox County, Ky
28 October 1862 at Williamsburg, Ky
26 December 1862 at Chikasaw Bayou, Ms
29 December 1862 at Chickasaw Bluffs, MS
16 May 1863 at Champion Hills, MS
22 May 1863 at Vicksburg, MS
11 July 1863 at Jackson, MS
4 May 1864 at comitee River, LA
sheree,
I’ll be real interested to see who your William Shelton descends from to see if you and Lynella and I connect as well.
I have found more Sheltons too that I have not posted as of yet.
James Shelton b1760 married Frances SMITH Allen, father is William Allen and Sarah Ann Smith.
William Milton Allen b 1812 married Mary Miller Shelton. She born 1-25-1811 in Mecklenburg co Va..died in St Charles Co Mo..Their daughter Rachel Ann married Thomas Carr Boyd in Shelby co Ky. 1821.
William Allen and Sarah Ann Smith..this is his third marriage..he fathered about 21-23 children..wonder who your William Shelton descends from? Sue J
Saj,
I am going to order his military records from the national archives. Hopefully, it will have his father and mother listed there and give us a good place to start.
Sherry
APPRAISEMENT OF THE ESTATE OF ARNSTED SHELTON DEC’D
We, the undersigned Commissioner, being appointed the Clay County Court
to appraise the property of the late Arnsted Shelton dec’d., after being
sworn proceeded as follows:
Fourteen head of hogs……………………..$ 35.00
four bee gums…………………………$ 4.00
one whip saw………………………….$ 10.00
one bay horse…………………………$ 10.00
sixteen head of hogs……………………..$ 35.00
William Graham
John (his mark) Wood
Julius Roberson
March 26, 1842
The following is a true list of property sold by me as Administrator of the
Estate of Arnsted Shelton, dec’d, To Wit:
Bought by William Shelton 2 bee hives……………$ 3.00
Bought by William Shelton 14 head of hogs…………..$ 10.00
Bought by William Shelton 9 head of wild hogs………..$ 2.00
Bought by William Shelton 1 horse…………….$ 5.00
Charles Robinson 2 bee hives……………….$ 2.00
Charles Robinson 1 whip saw……………….$ 5.00
Charles Robinson 1 square and compass…………..$ .25
Elizabeth Shelton 1 cow………………… $ 6.00
Elizabeth Shelton 16 head of hogs………………$ 10.25
Accounting in the whole to $ 43.25
A.D. Clark – Admr.
State of Kentucky, Clay County – To Wit:
I, William Williams, Clerk of the County Court for the County
aforesaid, do certify that the foregoing is a true copy of the appraisement
and also the Sale Bill of the Estate of Arnsted Shelton, dec’d, as returned
at the Dec. Term of said Court 1842, and ordered to be recorded.
Given under my hand this 8th day of December – 1842 –
William Williams, Clk.
Obtained from Eastern Kentucky University Library and Archives, Richmond,
Kentucky.
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