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My great Grandmother was Alice Bell Smith. Her parents were John Smith and Samatha Brown. They lived in south central Ohio.John served in the Civil War and was wounded. They according to some family members were full blood Blackfoot. I would like to know more about them. John was supposed to be one of twenty children. Ones family tree becomes blury when being Native American isn’t popular. This was very true in our area. In present times I hear more and more people say”my grand mother was Blackfoot”
Is this them?
1880 Brown Co., Ohio; ED17 Washington Twp, 5 June, p.324D,
at 67, 70:
SMITH, John L.(F?), 49, Farmer; Oh, Pa, Oh.****
(ditto), Samantha, 42, wife; Oh, Oh, Oh.****
(ditto), ALICE B., 19, dau; Oh, Oh, Oh.****
(ditto), Clara, 16 dau; Oh, Oh, Oh.
(ditto), Minnie, 4, dau; Oh, Oh, Oh.
The 1860 & 1870 census show them with an older dau, Louisa Emeline, b.abt.1859.
The 1860 census lists Samantha’s middle initial as “F.” and John is a “John L.” on both the 1860 & ’70 census.
Bill
Those are my GreatGreat Grandparents! Thank you so much! As I have said before I am not very wise as to computer ways. I wonder what other information is available? According to some of my family they were full blood Blackfoot.
According to the 1900 Brown Co Ohio census of Washington Twp, p.290A, John L. Smith was born Feb 1830 in Ohio as were both parents, but the 1880 census lists his father as born in Penn. and mother in Ohio – no telling which is correct. There are Smiths in 1850 Brown Co from Penn.
Samantha F. Smith was born March 1840 in Ohio as was her father and her mother is listed as born Vermont, however, we “think” (parents’ info) we know her mother was born in Ohio but HER mother (Samantha’s grandmother) may have been born in Vermont.
Samantha has had 4 children, which we’ve accounted for on various census as Louisa Emeline, Alice B., Clara & Minnie B.
John & Samantha had been married 42 years by then, which would mean they married about 1858.
Their daughter Louisa Emeline, b.abt. 1859, was probably named after Samantha’s mother, Louisa (see 1850 census below).
Minnie B., married about 1895, F. S. Bohrar (?)(or Bohner?), who was b. Feb 1870 (and both parents born Ohio) and he’s I.D.’d as John’s son-in-law. Minnie and F.S. had been married for 5 yrs but didn’t have any children in 1900.
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1850 Brown Co., Oh Census, Franklin Twp, p.405B, 2 October, at 1858, 1864:
Ephraim BROWN, 34 (b.abt.1816), farmer, $1000, (born:) Ohio.
Louisa Brown, 32 (b.abt.1818), Ohio.
SYMANTHA Brown, 10 (b.abt.1830), Ohio.****
On the 1880 Brown Co census for Scott Twp, p.238C, Ephraim Brown’s father is listed as born New Jersey and his mother in PA.
Louisa’s father is listed as born in Canada and his mother in Vermont. There were/are Saponi/Tutelo in PA and Canada.
I’ve looked thru Brown Co for John’s parents but haven’t I.D.’d them for certain, yet.
Bill
Sorry about the happy-face after “born”……..
a colon folllowed by a closed-parenthesis symbol makes a happy-face and I don’t always “pay attention” to the this……..
anyway……
The Ohio Marriage Record Index database on genealogy.com lists Samantha Brown’s parents’ marriage:
Ephraim BROWN married Louisa FULLER, April 26, 1835, in Brown Co., Ohio.
On the 1830 Brown county Ohio census for Byrd Twp, is only one FULLER household:
Jonathan Fuller,
(only age ranges given, no family members’ names unfortunately)
that household contained:
1 male 15 to 19 yrs old.
1 male 40 to 49 yrs old.
1 female under 5.
3 females 10 to 14.
1 female 15 to 19 (Louisa’s age range)****
1 female 40 to 49.
Twenty years later on the 1850 Brown Co census for Byrd Twp, 56A, 21 Aug.,
Jonathan Fuller, 62, farmer, $1200 Real Estate Value, (born) Vt.
Mary Fuller, 61, (born) Vt.
“Vt” was spelled out on the census record.
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Still working on John Smith….
Bill
My Elizabeth Smith was married in Ross County, Ohio in 1816. There’s about 25 miles between the borders of Ross County and Brown County at the nearest point. She was born in VA, possibly eastern WV. Her daughter, Elizabeth Ulm, was born in 1828 in Sullivan, Indiana, which is near the location of that Blackfoot Church Vance Hawkins found awhile back. http://www.saponitown.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=194&highlight=Blackfoot+Church There’s a good deal of time between my Smiths in Ohio and yours, but I thought I’d throw that out there.
I failed to note that the 1835 marriage of Ephraim Brown and Louisa Fuller probably means that Louisa is Ephraim’s second wife and not the mother of Samantha, who was born in 1830.
Bill
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