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http://www.dickshovel.com/Catawba.html
Just throwing this out — wondering.
The above website says —
Catawba means “river people,” and only came into common use in the Carolinas after 1715. The name used by themselves was Iyeye (people) or Nieye(real people). Early Spanish records refer to them as the Iswa (also spelled: Esaw, Isaw, Issa, and Ysa). 17th century Virginia colonists used a variation of this: Usheree(or Ushery, Usi).
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Someone brought this to my attention. Usi (one name for the Catawba) is very similar to Yuchi. Are the Catawba and the Euchee/Uchee/Yuchi related? What was the relationship between the 2 tribes?
Prob’ly a long shot.
vance
Hey Vance, well it is probably not such a long shot.
The Yuchi are supposed to be a language isolate, the Catawba a old souian dialect.
I have heard that the Yuchi maybe a very old group, oldewr that some may think, but to me it seams to be a matter of defintion, but the catch is how old is old,I’d say that this is a very good question and something that has not been lookedat.
I’ll do some checking and see what I can find.
If you know any OK. yuchi you may ask!
Hi Vance:
Just noticed your ref. to the name Ushery in 17th Century VA. I just posted to the Sawra heading regarding a location in NC by this name. I do know that some of the Ushery/Ussery’ who were in Lunenburg Co., VA migrated to NC and are, in fact, the same people. My Williams and the Usserys moved from VA to Orange Co., NC together are on lists there as Regulators or those who heavily protested the English interferring into their lives. Also, there are many Cherokee & Choctaws on the Dawes Rolls in OK by this name.
Vance:
Me again….ha ha.
The Sawra/Sara Tribe of Orange & Caswell Cos., NC moved to SC with the Catawbas. This could explain the relationship between the two tribes. Usi – Usary – Ussery – Usheree, etc., could be variant words for both languages as they melled together or what one called the other?? Both lived on Rivers – the Sawra/Sara on the Dan River. Just thinking out loud here.
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