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March 31, 2001 at 3:48 am #100
I was half-watching “This Week in History” on the History Channel tonight and I had this idle thought, the Tuscarora Massacre should be mentioned.
The Tuscarora were Saponi neighbors, just to the south in North Carolina. They fell to the British about 40 years after the Saponi fell. Fort Neoheroka is to the Tuscarora what Bacon’s Rebellion is to the Saponi. Fort Neoheroka is ten miles from where Barry and I live, in Snow Hill, NC.
Anyway, I thought about how the anniversary of their massacre should be mentioned. Then I thought, of course not, that would be considered too “obscure” for a mainstream show like that.
About ten minutes later there’s a segment on some event that occurred I believe they said 53 years ago.
The Niagara Falls stopped flowing. There was some freak ice jam up in the Great Lakes and it stopped the falls. People freaked out, thought the end of the world was coming, ran to their churches or the brave ones ventured out under the falls to pick up old junk. Then there was a stock footage clip of some Indians in warbonnets beating on a drum and the narrative explaining how local Indians proclaimed it was some fulfillment of prophecy or something like that.
After the stock footage confusion had cleared I realized that had to have been Tuscarora folks making those statements. And why wouldn’t the falls drying up on the anniversary of the fall of Neoheroka have rocked their world? It pretty well astonishes me.
I think it tells volumes about what the Old Religion was (is) like.
It’s kind of like the time I went to the university library to find a dissertation on the Tuscarora war. It was on microfilm. I decided to print the whole thing out, who cares the cost. I wasn’t sure if I’d put enough money on that little credit card thingy they sell you to make your copies, but it didn’t matter, cause the machine didn’t count a single page. I thought. . . cool gremlins. But then again, stoppping a counter’s nothing compared to stopping the Niagara Falls. World class gremlins.
I tell you, these Long Losts have never been lost.March 31, 2001 at 3:48 am #4897FYI: You may be interested to know that the Saponi petitioned the state of N.C. in 1722 to reside on the Tuscarora Reservation. The Saponi and the Tuscarora do share history. My mother’s side was Tuscarora and her 5th Great Grand father Hardee Hardee Keel sold land to my dad’s 5th Great Grand father John Collins. When the last group of Tuscarora left to go North to the 6 Nations some of the remnants of the Tutelo and Saponi treked up there with them. Of not all the Tuscarora and Saponi went North. Some stayed and some went else where. :FYI
March 31, 2001 at 3:48 am #4898Oh, what a stitch. We have a close family friend named SHardy, and here I was thinking you were her. hahahhaha. I’m thinking, gee, how did Sandy know all this about the Saponi? And I wish S. would finally go ahead and get registered.
hahahahaOkay! I’m straight now.
Yes, my first lead in tracing my ancestry was the fact that they lived on the Tuscarora Path in Pennsylvania. That long story’s linked on my profile, so I won’t belabour that point again. And just gut level, I think there are some Tuskies lurking up in my family tree, dropping a few apples down on my head now and then.
That’s very reaffirming to see that your family shows that alliance in those ‘latter days’ just before the Diaspora.
I know a Tuscarora lady who traced her family and found an entire community migrating cross-country. Just like yours. You two will have to connect.
March 31, 2001 at 3:48 am #4899My dad used to called Shardy when he was younger. I wanted to make a date correction on that last posting. It was 1733 when the Saponi submitted a petition to join the Tuscarora not 1722. Sorry. I guess my brain is like jelly with all these dates. “smile” You mentioned something about registering. have I still not registered on this site. Please bare with me I am still not used to the net even after 5 months.
March 31, 2001 at 3:48 am #4900You’re registered. You signed up last month.
March 31, 2001 at 3:48 am #4901I just read this and had to respond. “Not used to the net after 5 months.” I don’t know if this will make you feel better or worse but the internet has been part of my life since it was formed and I still am not used to it. Linda have you ever truly become comfortable with the net?
Ok, headed back to the back room. You are doing a good job here Linda. Hope we get to talk soon.
Craig
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March 31, 2001 at 3:48 am #4902I have to say I’m very comfortable with the net. Enjoy it immensely, just my medium. I rarely seem to have the time, in person, to say what I want to, the way I can on the net. Never used Firetalk much because it got back to those problems with real time conversations, waiting a long time to say what’s on your mind, then not having enough air time to elaborate the point.
March 31, 2001 at 3:48 am #4903Shardy
just passing through and read that you have Keel in your family? My momma was a Keels!
They are a very large family, we live in Ohio but they went north, and west.
March 31, 2001 at 3:48 am #4904Craig, I think to be comfortable with the net, one needs to accomodate ambiguity very well. How often does something not work like it did yesterday, or start working just because you went for coffee.
And they say we don’t live in an age of magic.
What I do like is the part Linda likes, and that’s being able to express myself as the spirit moves.
jp
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