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Hello,
I am researching some ancestors in a different area of the family and I have seen things about them that make me wonder about possible Saponi or Monacan ancestry.
A few ancestors are Stephen T. Saunders and Elizabeth “Bettie” Mallory, who lived in the west and north areas of Hanover County, VA for the 1850 and 1860 censuses. These same areas of Hanover County I have seen mentioned on this site. Later, on the 1870 census, they are listed in the James River Township of Buckingham County, VA with their post office being listed as Curdsville. This township of Buckingham County directly borders Nelson County, VA. In Hanover County, there are a number of names neighboring them that I have seen mentioned on this site such as Patterson, Hall, Butler, and Tinsley. The neighboring names in Buckingham County I must research more but two of these names are Donald and Coleman.
I have seen the name “Saunders” mentioned in threads on this site and in other places. I know less about the name “Mallory” but am searching for more information. Has anyone come across these specific names or know anything more about the Saunders/Mallory names in these areas?
Also, one quick question about the site. I would like to update some of my previous posts, but I can’t find an edit button. Is there a way to edit or should I just post a new message on the thread?
BBPress is the software that runs the forum. There is a time limit on how long a post can be edited for. Posting a new message is the easiest way to put new information.
Here is some additional information about Stephen Thomas Saunders and Elizabeth “Bettie” Lewis Mallory mentioned above. Any information or comments in response are welcomed.
Elizabeth “Bettie” Lewis Mallory was born in Hanover County and is likely descended from Thomas J Mallory and Elizabeth M (last name uncertain but possibly Duke). Both Thomas J Mallory and Elizabeth M (Duke?) are listed constantly in census records near to names associated with the Saponi and other tribes on census records in Hanover and are centered around the Saponi-associated areas of western and northwestern Hanover.
It appears that Stephen Thomas Saunders likely originated from the area of Buckingham County, VA. Stephen Thomas Saunders is said by some to be a descendant of Stephen Douglas Saunders and Emma Josephine Magdalena Moe, but this is not certain. There seem to be many different Saunders in Buckingham, and it is difficult to figure out exactly how Stephen Thomas Saunders connects to them (although there seems to be a local use of the name “Stephen” Saunders in Buckingham).
Many of the descendants of these two names moved to Warwick County, VA (today the city of Newport News) or the city of Richmond beginning around the early 1900s. The descendants married names such as Harrell, Tarry/Terry, Jones, Lane, Melton, and Sears. There appears to be long associations of the Saunders/Mallory families with many of these names. On one of the mid-1800s censuses in Hanover County, several people named “Harrold” (which Marc Snelling has mentioned in a past post as a spelling of “Harrell”) lives in the same household as Saunders and Mallory in Hanover County.
One descendant of Saunders and Mallory did not move to these areas but rather moved to specific counties in West Virginia and Kentucky, showing very similar movement patterns as others mentioned on this site.
Does anyone have any information about these locations, names, or movement patterns? Any response does not have to be about these specific ancestors; any information or comments are welcomed.
I am a Harrell and Jones descendant and have connected to others on those lines through SaponiTown.
My Jones line married into the Smith line from Southwestern VA / Southern WV.
They went through Clinton County OH to Grant County IN.The Harrell/Harrold line was one that was in the early Bardstown KY area with several other Saponi surnames in the 1780s.
They were later in Johnson County IN.These lines (in my tree and all the other connected trees) are hard to trace before the late 1700s. My Harrell line may have been in Bertie County NC. The lines they marry into come from further North – Stafford/Loudon County VA area for Harrell (before Loudon County was formed).
In the case of Jones, they were said to be at Fort Germanna – Culpepper County.
I don’t recognize the other surnames from VA, but I have not looked in detail at the extended families there because of how difficult they are to trace.
On the 1810 Bardstown census (when my Harrell descendent is still there – married to Cotton) there is a Saunders, a Melton and a Lane.
https://kykinfolk.com/nelson/census/1810SKIndex.html
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