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A site in SC is being dated back 50,000 years. Europe has only been inhabited by humans for 40,000 years. If you don’t already know, Indians have long been irritated by the “Bering Straights Theory” that place them in the Americas about 13,000 years. All this theorizing was done in a climate which minimized Indian claims to the Americas by way of a limited tenure.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/science/11/17/carolina.dig/index.html
There are now over 200 sites in the Americas dated older than 13,000 years. Some dates are questionable, most aren’t.
Hey, well this Bering Straight theory is junk.
I cannot believe that the scientists think that there was only one direction of movement.
“perhaps there was a huge stop sign with a this way only arrow”.
I have heard that in South America there are sites older than here in the north.
Hey Tom, I saw that “One Way South” sign when I came over the Straits. “North” wasn’t much of an option, eh?
The arguement is “Boots or Boats” – it’s both, and there wasn’t just one movement. Given the climatological impediments, it’s only “natural” that dated sites are older in S.America than in N.America, but that apparent result is partly “investigative bias”, not intentional like one thinks of “Bias”. Prior to VERY recent times, very ANCIENT “sites” were found as a result of digging up the ground in search of resources or as the result of leveling the ground to build upon. Sites more supportive of a hunting/ gathering life are not always the most conducive to “modern” lifestyles. More remain to be found than have been “discovered”.
I’m sure that many “surprises” await them.
To everyone..
“Did you know…?” The deepest hole on that part of the continental shelf that today we call the Bering Straits, is ONLY
51 Meters deep?! That’s about 166 feet. Yeah, that’s deeper than I am tall, but Ocean levels have fallen below that level 6 times in just the last 46,000 years – not just the “last” time about 12,500 yrs ago.
“Did you know….?” The genetic separation between the “Reindeer Chukchi” people of N.E.Asia, and the Athabaskans of N.Canada, is 32,000 yrs – or that the genetic separation between Europeans and Native American populations is only 42,000 years? (hmmm, I recall seeing something close to this number just one paragraph up.)
Sure, those genetic separation distances are likely to change with more research (or maybe not) – that’s how we all learn. Yes, skin me and clean me, for suggesting we have not always been here. But we’ve been here for about as long as Europeans have been in Europe, and for about all of the same reasons. For all practical purposes, both have been “here”, forever.
“Did you know….?” That the (arguably) best Linguist sees a relationship between the language of the Basque of Spain/France (reputed to be the descendants of the real cave painters of Europe), the Ket of the N. Urals (Russia/Siberia border), a remnant tribe living in the N.Himalayas, and the Dene’ (S. Athabaskan speakers, a.k.a. Navaho & Apachee), and proposes that the language group spoken across almost all of Eurasia just 20,000 yrs ago was the mother tongue of these 4, now isolated groups? And that that lanuage was the basis for the relatedness of such seemingly different languages as Chinese, Turkish, Indo-European, N.E. Asian, Polynesian and several other major linguistic groups? Crazy? Not really. Cut in stone? Not really. No scientific statement is cut in stone or it wouldn’t be science, eh?
(Tom, I love that “eh?” it says so much in such few syllables!)
Hey Bill, or should it be, eh? Bill.
I know what you are saying about the language families and the oceans falling etc.
If you were one of the only humans in the Arctic and bear walked by what colour would it be?
Who cares you you just know it’s looking at you as if you were a sandwich! So there’s saftey in numbers, who cares if “Jack” is Chukchi” and “Jill” is Innu!
The reason I ramble is this, arctic people have always been related, but that does not mean that Iam related to the Chukchi!
I did see in a National geographic where during a drilling operation they had found a point and it looked like it was from Siberia but it was under about 100 feet of water!
When the folks in Washington found the Kennewik Man, the local radio station announcer said that “we” should rethink treaty rights, I called in and said that “because they found a little white man beside the river does not change 500 years of political history”.
And I feel the same way about the Siberia theory, it’s irrelavent where we came from, whats important is that we are here!
One very interesting item found in Germany is the Nebula sky disc, there’s so many similarities it can be shocking!
Anyway, eh?
There are actually several theories as to the movement of people coming to the America’s other than the ice bridge. The Atlantic Ocean contains a series of powerful rivers or currents which facilitate the movement of floating objects from the Americas to Europe and Africa. In the North Atlantic the most prominent current is that of the Gulfsteam which swings through the Caribbean and then moves in a northeasterly direction from Florida to the Grand banks off Terra Nova (Newfoundland), turning eastwards towards the British Islea and the Bay of Biscay. This current has carried debris from Jamaica and the Caribbean to the Herbrides and Scotland. Also, valuable hardwoods were commonly washed ashore along the coasts of Ireland and Wales. borne by the Gulf Steam, from the rivers of Mexico.
In other words, boats would be a reasonable way for the First People to travel. Then theirs our theory: That we have always been here! That’s why we need NAtive American anthro’s to set the facts stright!!!
LOL, Julie
Tom:
We are all related, “All My relations.”
Not only do we are comprized from the same gene pool, but The Elder’s say we all share five gifts: We all come from water, and need water to survive. Man and his brother and sister animal friends eat the bounty that Mother Earth has provived for us. We all breath the same air. The earth has fire within its core, causing the earth to shift and creat new land to support new life. We have fire within us: The SA node located on thrt side of the heart has an influx of sodium, potassium and calcium setting off a spark (our fire) giving us life. The stones are the bones of the earth. Our body produces stones of all kinds: minerals, kidney stones, some of us are born with stones in our heads.
So you see, we are all related based on these teachings, and all dance in the same circle to honor our Creator.
Peace, Julie
All I have to say is, WOW! I had no idea Bill knew so much about things other than Geneology!:D And Tom, You just always feel safe to me. When you say something, it’s comfortable. Julie, GIRL, keep it up, cause’ you’re keeping me going when I need it! Your gift of speach is magnificent. I like to listen to you.:D You all make very good points. I don’t know much about the hystory of things, but I know we’ve been-period, and I won’t let anyone fit me or any of you into there little “skinner box” theory. Or label us, we make our own way, the hard way and that’s the way it is.
😉 Just Me.
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