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In the article by Jay Vest, there is mention of three towns, one is Tutelo, one is Saponi and the last an Ocaneechi town all in the north east.
Sorry I do not have this article in front of me but will post this info. very soon.
I believe that the Blackfoot Town ties in very nicely with the previous three (atleast in theory) and we need some info. on the “Indian trails” in this area as the previous 3 all have roads connecting them, if we can locate the the trails etc we can (maybe) establish atleast a physical connection.
I’d say that we are really on to something here.
Tom,
Try this link : http://www.mcn.org/2/noel/Westmoreland/MigrationTrails.htm
It shows the trails through PA, including several that come from DE.
Techteach
Hi Tom,
Here is a mention of a Sapony trail in New York…
Norris, W. Glenn; Old Indian trails in Tompkins County; Ithaca, N.Y.: DeWitt Historical Society of Tompkins County, 1944, 32 pgs.
The Pony Hollow Trail (Chapter VI; pages 27 – 28)
The Pony Hollow Trail was one of the lesser known paths. It did not connect with any important trial except where it joined the main trail in Cayuga Inlet Valley. In some places in its upper reaches, the trail penetrated a dark, narrow, swampy hollow; a valley that at one time harbored a remnant of the southern Siouan tribe of Sapony Indians. From the Indian word, Sapony, this locality derived its present known name of Pony Hollow.
To reach this trail from what is now Ithaca, the traveler followed southward over either the east or west branch of the Catherine’s Town or Seneca Lake trail. Near the west bank of the Inlet, where Buttermilk Creek joins the main stream, these two branches of the trail met and became a single main trail going south.
Continuing south a quarter of a mile, the trail crossed the site of the Indian village of Coreorgonel (1753 – 79). There the trail divied, on branch going westward over West Hill to Catherine’s Town near Seneca Lake. The other branch continued south past the Inlet Valley Cemetery as does the Ithaca-Emira highway.
This trail also divided; the Pony Hollow trail branched to the right over the road leading to Enfield. The other branch continued up Inlet Creek through West Danby to Spencer Lake and beyond.
The Pony Hollow trail followed the Enfield road to the present lower north entrance of the Robert H. Treman State Park. There is descended a low bank on the north side of Enfield Creek. It then crossed the broad level ground in front of the entrance to the gorge, to the steep south bank. Here a short climb was encountered, after which the trail reached the present Ithaca-Elmira highway No. 13, near what is known as the Decker farm.
From there, the trail continued toward Newfield Village on approximately the same course taken by the state highway. At Newfield Village the path ran along the eastern base of Key Hill. The west branch of the Inlet or Newfield Creek, was crossed at the south end of the village, and from there the trail continued in the direction of Pony Hollow, as does the present main highway.
The Oneida Indian guides with Col. Wm. Butler’s troops must have known of this trail. This was the route taken in September, 1779, from Ithaca to Elmira, by Butler’s expeditionary force of 600 men detached from Gen. Sullivan’s main army. It was a punitive expedition against the Six Indian Nations, allies of the British, during the Revolutionary War.
I believe that the accounts of their strenuous journey over the rough hills southwest of Ithaca, through what was then an almost impenetrable wilderness, is the first record of white men, to pass through this rugged portion of Tompkins County.
Aboriginal Place Names in Tompkins County (page 30)
Just to name a few that are listed…
Co-re-or-go-nel, Maj. Norris said it is “Call’d Corcargonell,” Where They Keep the Pipe of Peace. Small village near Buttermilk Falls at Lehigh Valley R. R. crossing; burned Sept., 1779, by Col. Dearborn’s troops. Occupied by Tuteloes and other remnant of subject tribes.
De-Ho-Riss-Canadia, another name for the above village; so called by Sgt. Major George Grant of Col. wm. Butler’s troops, Sept., 1779.
Te-da-righ’-roones, subject tribe goverened by the Cayugas.
To-tie-ronno, name of village near the head of the lake occupied by the Tedarighroones.
Sa-po-ny, southern subject tribe which occupied the valley now called Pony Hollow; present name derived from aboriginal inhabitants.
Hi Linda,
I found both books that I have listed recently online through a HeritageQuest subscription. (I have more articles to post as soon as I get them typed.)
Stacey
Beauchamp, William Martin; Past and present of Syracuse and Onondaga County, New York : from prehistoric times to the beginning of 1908; New York: The S.J. Clarke Pub. Co., 1908, 1631 pgs.
Vol. I. Chapter IV. Botany and botanists in Onondaga
page 35
More than half a century after Kalm another forein botanist came here. This was Frederick Pursh, who came to American in 1799, dying at Montreal in 1820. He was sent to Onondaga by Dr. Barton in 1807. His route was through the Delaware Water Gap, Great Bend, Binghampton, Oswego, Tioga Point and Cayuga lake to Onondaga. His quaint journal of this trip was published in 1869, and is quite rare. July 7 he was at Sapony Hollow, eight miles from “Cayuga city,” or as it is called sometimes, “Ithaca.” There he noticed magnolia acuminate, or the cucumber tree. This “is very scarce about here, and the trees here in this place and two or three others I have seen, are of a creeply, small and old growth, nothing like to what they are in Virgina.” Onondaga county is rather far north for this tree, and but two groups have been described, one near Baldwinsville, and the other at the mile point, Skaneateles lake. In both these the trees were of good size.
Stacey
Stacey,
Thank you.
What a coincidence. My mother’s brother, on the her Howard side met a nice Irish girl up there and they got married and live in Skaneteles.
I was up there on a summer vacation in 1959. Labor Day.
He was born in NC.
Also, I was living in NC 1996-1999 and I loved the magnolia trees.They blossom on May 19th.
Magnolia:)
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