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September 3, 2001 at 6:23 pm #231
Someone might find family on these rolls: http://accessgenealogy.com
1851 Census of Cherokee’s east of the Mississippi
Forsythe County, Georgia
Family NO.1
1692. Catherine Autrey 27 w mixed
(William Autrey is the head of this family)
(Sister to Parker Collins, note added by B Benge)
1693. Mary Ann Autrey 9 d mixed
1694. Martha Autrey 7 d mixed
1695. Elizabeth Autrey 5 d mixed
1696. Edward Parker Autrey 3 s mixed
1697. Columbus Autrey 1 s mixed
Family NO.2
1698. Parker Collins 25 mixed
(he married a white woman since the treaty)
(wife Mary Treblenote, added by B Benge)
1699. Joseph Collins 4 s mixed
1700. Martha Collins 2 d mixed
1701. Susan Alice Collins 1 d mixed
Family NO.3
1702. John Parker Collins 11 orphan mixed
1703. Ira Jackson Collins 9 orphan mixed
(these children live with John Miller)
(Parker Collins nephews, parents Joseph Collins and Mary Miller,
added by B Benge)
Family NO.4
1704. Nancy Mimms 29 w mixed
(David (John?) Mimms head of this family)
(Sister to Parker Collins, Parents Parker Collins and Nancy
Ann Cordery, added by B Benge)
1705. Sarah Ann Mimms 14 d mixed
1706. Joseph Parker Mimms 9 s mixed
1707. Eliza Ann Mimms 7 d mixed
1708. Marcena Mimms 5 d mixed
1709. Renvy Mimms 2 d mixed
Family NO.5
1710. Henry Rogers 27 mixed
(brother to William and George his wife was
Louisa Jane Balckburn, added by B Benge)
1711. Louisa Rogers 27 w mixed
Family NO.6
1712. Ann Chappel Lenoir 29 w mixed
(Siler did not record the head of household but my
records indicate her husband was John Wilson Lenoir)
(sister to William and George Rogers, added by B Benge)
1713. Henry Aldebert Lenoir 10 s mixed
1714. Mary Octavia Lenoir 8 d mixed
1715. Thomas Rogers Lenoir 3 s mixed
1716. (John)Albert Lenoir 1 s mixed
Family NO.7
1717. Robert Rogers 47 mixed
(Brother to William and George Rogers, his wife Mary Ann Baptiste
divorced him in 1851, added by B Benge)
1718. Charles Rogers 21 s mixed
1719. Gilbert Rogers 18 s mixed
1720. William Rogers 16 s mixed
1721. John Howard Rogers 13 s mixed
1722. Sarah E Rogers 11 d mixed
1723. Robert Lea Rogers 9 s mixed
Family NO.8
1724. Jackson Rogers 25 mixed
(brother of George and William Rogers,wife was Sarah Blackburn,
added by B Benge)
1725. Sarah Rogers 30 w mixed
1726. Laura Rogers 6 d mixed
1727. Emily Cherokee Rogers 2 d mixed
1728. Frances Crawford Rogers 1 d mixed
Family NO.9
1729. John Rogers Sr. 73 white
(aka John “Nolucky Jack” Rogers, added by B Benge)
1730. John Rogers Jr. 21 s mixed
Family NO.10
1731. Alvina Bell 21 w mixed
(Siler didn’ note it but her husband was Anderson Smith Bell)
(William Rogers and Mary Vann McNair were her parents
, added by B Benge)
1732. Alexander Stephen Bell 2 s mixed
1733. William Joseph Bell 1 s mixed
Family NO.11
1734. Cynthia Lowe 31 female mixed
(Siler didn’t note it but her husband was John Lowe)
(Sister to George and William Rogers, added by B Benge)
1735. Julia Lowe 5 d mixed
1736. John Lowe 3 s mixed
1737. Sarah Alice Lowe 1 d mixed
Family NO.12
1738. William Rogers 46 mixed
(he was married to a white woman since the treaty, Mary, Wm, Sarah,
Elizabeth and John are her children)
(he was George’s brother, 1st wife Cherokee Mary Vann McNair,
second wife Anna Louisa Ruede, added by B Benge)
1739. Henry Rogers 19 s mixed
1740. David Rogers 17 s mixed
1741. Robert Rogers 13 s mixed
1742. Mary Rogers 11 d mixed
1743. William Rogers 10 s mixed
1744. Sarah Rogers 6 d mixed
1745. Elizabeth Rogers 5 d mixed
1746. Augustus Rogers 2 s mixed
Family NO.13
1747. Charles Harris 47 white
(Charles Harris is married to a second wife, the first
wife was also a Cherokee)
1748. Jane Harris 31 w mixed
(Sister to Parker Collins, Charles Harris’s 1st wife was
also a sister Sallie, added by B Benge)
1749. Parker Harris 21 s mixed
1750. Thomas Harris 15 s mixed
1751. Narcissa Harris 13 d mixed
1752. Martha Harris 8 d mixed
1753. Susannah Harris 5 d mixed
1754. Charles Harris 3 s mixed
1755. Lyndonia Harris 2 d mixed
Family NO.14
1756. Nancy Cumpton 23 w mixed
(Siler didn’t note it but her husband was Willie Cumpton)
(she was Charles Harris’s daughter by 1st wife Sallie Collins
, added by B Benge)
1757. Sarah Malinda Cumpton 2 d mixed
1758. Noah Cumpton 1 s mixed
Family NO.15
1759. George Waters Rogers 25 mixed
(he was married to a white woman since the treaty)
(He was the son on “Nolucky” John Rogers and Sally
Cordery, Charlotte’s sister)
1760. Augustus Rogers 3 S mixed
1761. Labond Rogers 2 s mixed
Family NO.16
1762. Susan Cobb 20 w mixed
((Andrew)Jackson Cobb is head of this family, Susan Cobb
nee Vickery was Charlotte’s Daughter)
1763. Rufus Cobb 3 s mixed
1764. James Henry Cobb 2 s mixed
Family NO.17
1765. Jane Vickery 24 female mixed
(Not married)
1766. Josephine Vickery 6 d mixed
1767. Josephus Vickery 4 s mixed
1768. Mary Vickery 2 d mixed
Family NO.18
1769. Charlotte Vickery 64 mixed
(says not married but Charlotte Vickery nee Cordrey was the widow of
Henry Vickery, she also had a granddaughter by the name of Martha,
born 1843)
1770. Martha Ann Vickery 9 d mixed
Family NO.19
1771. Jane Gravitt 29 w mixed
1772. James Gravitt 12 s mixed
1773. Cynthia Gravitt 9 d mixed
1774. Mary Gravitt 7 d mixed
1775. Caroline Gravitt 5 d mixed
1776. John Gravitt 2 s mixed
1777. Thomas Gravitt 1 s mixed
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September 3, 2001 at 6:23 pm #5432Trois, do you know what those classifications are supposed to mean, like “1 s mixed”? Mixed with what? Who did this list, the person listed at the bottom?
September 3, 2001 at 6:23 pm #5433http://hometown.aol.com/bbbenge/front.html
This is the front page for Barbara Benge Native American site. She also is connected to the AOL NA chatroom.
Brenda
September 3, 2001 at 6:23 pm #5434Sorry Linda, I really don’t know the meanings. Just came across the info. Here’s some more on the GOINGS in Missouri:
Slave Narratives
(Rachel Goings, Cape Girardeau, MO and James Goings) http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage?collId=mesn&fileName=100/mesn100.db&recNum=2
For some reason, I’m on a roll. It’s getting late here now and I need to go to bed but can’t quite pull away. I found an interview just handed to me from my gggrandmother, Mandy Lee, in Arkansas. Amazing!
Did I give the proper reference to the Benge research?
September 3, 2001 at 6:23 pm #5435The credits look fine to me.
Please share the narrative from your grgrgrandmother with us.
September 3, 2001 at 6:23 pm #5436Found this by accident as if she clicked the mouse herself!
Mandy Lee, 85, Cherokee, Coal Hill, AR
“Yes’m I was a slave. I boan here. I heard the bugles blowing, the fife beat, the drums beat, and the cannons roar. We started to Texas but never got across the river. I don’t know what town it was but it was just across the river from Texas. My white folks was good to me [ref. to Cader Lee family from North Carolina, 1840]. I steid with them till they died. Missy died first, then master died. I never was away from them. They was both good. My mammy was sold but I never was. They said they was surrendered when we come back from Texas. I heard the drums beat at Ft. Smith when we come back but I don’t know what they was doing. I worked in the house with the children and in the field too. I help herd the horses. I would card and spin and eat peaches. No, that wasn’t all I had to eat. I didn’t have enough meat but I had plenty of milk and potatoes. I was born right here in Coal Hill. I ain’t never lived anywhere else except when we went South during the war.
“Law woman I can’t tell you what I think of the present generation. They are good in their way but they don’t do like we did. I never did go naked. I don’t see how they stand it.
“I could sing when I was young. We sang everything, the good and bad.”
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She was the mother of my maternal ggrandfather who was reportedly Cherokee from North Carolina. There is another Texas connection here and I think that many enslaved Black Indians/fullbloods or free men of color tried to go to Texas to escape the war. Funny thing is that most that went left again in pursuit of better times.
Question: Does the Qualla Boundary in North Carolina have anything to do with the Saponi or Meherrin? The counties are Cherokee, Graham, Jackson, Macon and Swain. Specific communities: Yellowhill, Birdtown, Paintown, Snowbird, Big Cove and Wolftown. I am trying to figure out how my gggrandfather’s first name is Qually (Qualla) and what is it’s significance in Saponi or Cherokee. He definitely identified himself as Blackfoot.
September 3, 2001 at 6:23 pm #5437What a find. You must be tickled to death. I know how these things just seem to fly at us. Í’ve never heard anything about the Saponi or Meherrin in connection with the Qualla Boundary. I know there are a lot of identifications of Cherokee/Blackfoot but I haven’t found out anything specific. My guess would be they were Saponi people who sought refuge with the Cherokee. Have you found anything explaining how Cherokee came to be enslaved? Your gggrandmother sounds like she was fully acculturated as a slave. It’s very intriguing. It’s like her voice in that piece raises more questions than it answers. . .
September 3, 2001 at 6:23 pm #5438I am very thrilled. I hadn’t realized just how many slave narratives there were. Now I’m looking for the others!
For this side of the family, I am not sure if she were fullblood but she was definitely Cherokee. The Cader Lee family orig. from VA and N.C. took their slaves with them in 1840. I found good info on them from the Hist. Soc. of Coal Hill, AR. They were a very prominent family back east and in AR. From what one poster described, they had no Indian blood yet the local history there states they had many Indian friends. That area of AR had a lot of Cherokees. They went through AL and MS before AR. Sounds an awful lot like they were on the Trail of Tears. Perhaps this side of the family was White Cherokee and the other English.
About Qualla or Qually Boundary, the origin of the name is Norwegian and had something to do with seafarers. Seems to be a common Norwegian Amer./Canad. surname. I was thinking that my gggrandfather was either named Qually to remember where they came from or something to that effect…there could be an ancient Celtic connection as well. It would be very interesting to come across something that documents the Cherokee taking in the Blackfoot. I have seen Delaware inducted into the Cherokee in Oklahoma Dawes. I think I will check the Baker Roll again to find the surname.
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