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I have more family from back in your area. I’m looking into another part of my family, the Parrish family.
I will start now and go back. I will start with Minerva Parrish b. Oct. 18 1852, the daughter of John Louis Parrish b. Oct 14, 1815 in NC married to Clarissa Reece b. Oct 16, 1815 in TN. Minerva Parrish married Chester Selby.
John Louis Parrish married Clarissa Reece in Chauncey Camden Co., MO Mar 28 1841. John Louis is the son of Thomas H. Parrish b. 1787 in Louisa Co., VA, and Elizabeth (Betsy) Herring b. in Duplin Co., NC.
Thomas H. Parrish b. 1787 in Louisa Co., VA d.abt 1865 in Camden Co., MO. Thomas was married to Elizabeth (Betsy) Herring b. 1795 in Duplin Co., NC. Thomas’ parents were Nathaniel Parrish b. Oct 23, 1758 in Goochland Co., VA and Martha Clarkson b. abt 1764 in VA. Thomas and Betsy were married Jan. 14, 1815 in Duplin Co., NC.
Nathaniel Parrish b. Oct 23, 1758 in Goochland Co., VA, d.Apr 13, 1810 in Bourbon Co., KY. Nathaniel married twice. His first wife was Mary Martha Williams b. abt 1756 in VA. They married i Goochland Co. VA June 2, 1777. His second wife was Martha Clarkson b. abt 1764 in VA. They married Sept. 24, 1786 in Louisa Co., VA. Nathaniels parents were Joel Parrish and Elizabeth Hill.
Joel Parrish b. abt 1736 in Goochland Co., VA, married Elizabeth Hill b. abt 1735 in VA. They were married Dec. 26, 1757 in Goochland Co., VA. Joel’s parents were Humphrey Parrish and Mary Morton Hamilton.
Humphrey Parrish was b. abt 1708 in Baltimore, MD. and Mary Morton Hamilton b. abt 1715 in VA. They were married before 1732 in Goochland Co., VA. Humphrey’s parents were John Parrish b. 1672 in W. River Hundred, Anne Arundel, MD. and Sarah Franklin b. 1678 Baltimore, MD.
John Parrish was b. 1672 in West River Hundred, Anne Arundel, MD married to Sarah Franklin b. 1678 Baltimore, MD. His parents were Edward Parrish b. 1640 in VA and Clara Judgwyn b. 1640/42 in West River Hundred Anne Arundel, MD.
Edward Parrish b. 1640 in VA and married to Clara Judgwyn, may be Jadgwyn, b. 1640/42 in West River Hundred, Anne Arundel, MD. Married in 1664 in Anne Arundel, MD. His parents were Edward Parrish b. 1600 in England and mother unknown.
Well Cuz, do you know where any of these Counties are? Goochland Co., VA, Duplin Co., NC, or Louisa Co., VA?
Through genealogy research I have never seen Parrish in my family. However, through DNA the name comes up frequently.
On 23andMe there are eight cousins with the name Parrish listed in their profiles. Dave Parrish is the only one who has the name present day. I don’t know him but he lists Granville Co NC as one of a few locations in his profile. Dave
Parrish is related to over a dozen of my mother’s cousins. This would suggest to me that he is a direct male descendant of a Parrish man from many generations ago that is common to all these ancestors.
Trying to find genealogy to see if he is linked to the Parrish family listed here.
Now that I have five DNA samples from my family (me, mother, uncle, sister, great-aunt) I went back and tried to isolate which side all my cousins on 23andMe are on. This is a group of about 150 who have shared genome data with us.
With this method I was able to divide all our cousins into three groups. One has definite Saponi heritage (Marshall/Coppock/Bayley/Miller/Pontius), another has oral history but no concrete links yet (Brower/Bechtel/Gates/Heaton), and the third is one I haven’t been able to find out much about but marries into Saponi lines (Stainbrook/Mauler/Ihinger/Leffler/Weller)
When I was done I noticed that my Parrish cousin and one other were the only two that did not fit neatly into one of those groups. When I actually looked at where on the chromosomes he is related it seems that he is actually related on two sides. The known Saponi Marshall line and the third Stainbrook one I know little about.
The conclusion I’m drawing from this is that he is related in two ways because our shared ancestors were an endogamous group. This is consistent with what I’ve seen on our lines that I can trace well. From our family oral history of the last ‘fullblood’ ancestor to my mother all seven generations seem to be mixed.
I also have a Parrish on my line, but no oral history of being Native.
I have seen some Parrish surnames in the Quaker records, and also found many with this surname in old PA records.
My Sarah Parrish Born 1785 in Maryland, and in 1803 married John McNabb either in OH or WV before they moved.
seeker;37423 wrote: I also have a Parrish on my line, but no oral history of being Native.
I have seen some Parrish surnames in the Quaker records, and also found many with this surname in old PA records.
My Sarah Parrish Born 1785 in Maryland, and in 1803 married John McNabb either in OH or WV before they moved.
Corrections and apologies,
I have found some of my older records and it seems I mixed my Sarah with another.
My Sarah Parrish married John McNabb in Belmont Co. OH in 1803.
I also believe her father (or a possible brother?) would have most likely been Joseph Parrish,
who appears on the same tax list in 1806 as her husband and his relative in this same county.
I’ll add the link from the Unique Names thread here where it belongs.
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=scraigh&id=I18901
I like to search world connect using differing search parameters and see patterns in the megadata. I am very wary of individual bits of info posted unless it is documented in the tree. Surname: Parrish, Born:1700 (+ or – 20 years..very important ) Many trees show John and Humphrey coming out of Maryland into Goochland, VA and their children spreading across VA and into 3 NC counties, mainly Granville.
Changing search to Surname: Parrish, Born: 1750 VA (+ or – 20 years) spreads them across NC and to GA, KY, OH, etc. Several of the migrating groups have more suspected mixed-blood associated names that others.
I recently found records that again put my Parrish born in Maryland. Something conflicted at one time and I wasn’t sure, but it seems she is from MD according to a genealogy book. I still don’t have her parents yet. Since she married in OH I assume she met him there, I’m not sure if she knew him when he lived in VA before the Ohio move, or if she was in VA beforehand.
Dreaminghawk;37685 wrote: I’ll add the link from the Unique Names thread here where it belongs.
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=scraigh&id=I18901
I like to search world connect using differing search parameters and see patterns in the megadata. I am very wary of individual bits of info posted unless it is documented in the tree. Surname: Parrish, Born:1700 (+ or – 20 years..very important ) Many trees show John and Humphrey coming out of Maryland into Goochland, VA and their children spreading across VA and into 3 NC counties, mainly Granville.
Changing search to Surname: Parrish, Born: 1750 VA (+ or – 20 years) spreads them across NC and to GA, KY, OH, etc. Several of the migrating groups have more suspected mixed-blood associated names that others.
Looking at the Parrish family you linked, they seem to have all stayed in NC. These are the current names and surname lists from Parrish cousins we’ve identified in our family DNA project:
PARRISH (Parrish, Smerdon, Hobgood, Royster, Bragg, Wheeler) in Granville Co NC
EARP (related to Wyatt Earp, Gardner, Robinson, Early, Cox, Parrish, Hudson, Risher, Lane) in Maryland; Virginia; Kentucky; Tennessee; Iowa; Missouri; Illinois; California
FULLER (Fuller, Parrish, Bailey, Batte, Belt, Brantley, Carden, Cocke, Cole, Dement, Duke, England, Fletcher, Folkes, Fullilove, George, Goode, Green, Harris, Hight, Humphrey, Johnson, Larcome, Lewellyn, Lewis, Littleton, Merrimoon, Morgan, Munford, Nichols, Patterson, Peebles, Pleasants, Reynolds, Reames, Spivey, Vinson, Williams, MATERNAL, Kennedy, Burnett, Askew, Allen, Barbee, Brewer, Burton, Clayton, Collier, Dickerson, Dudley, Falkner/Faulkner, Ford, Gatewood, Harding, Hewes, Hutchins, James, Johnston, Nowell, Perkins, Poindexter, Redd, Rice, Robinson, Ship, Sneed/Snead, Talley, Thomas, Tinsley, Tucker, MULTIPLE LINES, Joyner, Bartholomew, Bennett, Boon, Clark, Council, Edwards, Hardy, House, Jackson, Jones, Mayo, Smelley, Smith, Vick)
in
North Carolina Counties; Franklin; Vance; Granville; Warren; Bute; Person; Nash; Halifax; Edgecombe; Northampton; Virginia Counties; Isle of Wight; Brunswick; Surry; Southampton; Henrico; Halifax; Charles City; James City; Prince Charles; Goochland; New Kent
BARDASH (Brown, Burns, Fisk, Gifford, Hart, Hillier, Huntington, Makernes, Masters, Parrish, Sargent, Street, Vaux, Winslowe) in Texas, Louisiana, Illinois, Arkansas, North Carolina, South Carolina, Tennessee, Northampton England, Oxfordshire England
HUDDLE (same as FULLER above)
CARPENTER (Bell, Smith, Sperry, Parrish, Pedersen, Hartley, Morgan, Reece, Jones, Rees, Gilbert, Dudley, Warner, Walker, Parker, Abbot, Barnes, Ballard, Chapin, Wright, Penney, Marshfield, Maclean, Beall, Cragg, Wiley, Cameron, Williams, Richardson, Randall, Bently, Nye, Patterson, Nelms, McWilliams, Davis, Petersdatter, Rasmussen, Jensdatter, Soresnsen, Ovesen, Delano, Roosevelt) in CA
JACKSON-DALE (Berg, Anseth, Dopking, Stone, Parrish, Ingraham) in Norway,North Dakota,Michigan,Iowa,N.Y.
ROWE (Ashworth, Beste, Boyd, Curtis, Davis, Fralick, Greathouse, Grottenthaler, Jaquess, Jeffries, Justice, Lamb, Pack, Parrish, Redman, Roos, Rowe, Row, Volk, Waltrip, Weaver, Whipple) in Posey County, Indiana; Mount Vernon, Indiana; Evansville, Indiana; Crittenden County, Kentucky; Caldwell County, Kentucky; Webster County, Kentucky; Dickson County, Tennessee; Pennsylvania; Virginia; North Carolina; South Carolina
SETCHFIELD (Setchfield, Salonimer, Goodrich, Parrish) in Michigan and Missouri
EARP and PARRISH are no more than 5th cousin to my mother’s generation, possibly as close as 3rd cousins. The others could be more distant.
Know that is a lot of info but maybe something stands out.
This is what stands out to me.
The locations listed fit Saponi migration patterns, especially the more detailed ones.
Surname matches with my family genealogy are on our known mixed lines; Bailey, Goode, Lewellyn, Tucker, Jones, Smith, Wiley.
Other potentially Saponi surnames?; Green, Allen, Tinsley, Jeffries, Richardson, Rice
MarcSnelling;37793 wrote: Looking at the Parrish family you linked, they seem to have all stayed in NC. These are the current names and surname lists from Parrish cousins we’ve identified in our family DNA project:
PARRISH (Parrish, Smerdon, Hobgood, Royster, Bragg, Wheeler) in Granville Co NC
EARP (related to Wyatt Earp, Gardner, Robinson, Early, Cox, Parrish, Hudson, Risher, Lane) in Maryland; Virginia; Kentucky; Tennessee; Iowa; Missouri; Illinois; California
FULLER (Fuller, Parrish, Bailey, Batte, Belt, Brantley, Carden, Cocke, Cole, Dement, Duke, England, Fletcher, Folkes, Fullilove, George, Goode, Green, Harris, Hight, Humphrey, Johnson, Larcome, Lewellyn, Lewis, Littleton, Merrimoon, Morgan, Munford, Nichols, Patterson, Peebles, Pleasants, Reynolds, Reames, Spivey, Vinson, Williams, MATERNAL, Kennedy, Burnett, Askew, Allen, Barbee, Brewer, Burton, Clayton, Collier, Dickerson, Dudley, Falkner/Faulkner, Ford, Gatewood, Harding, Hewes, Hutchins, James, Johnston, Nowell, Perkins, Poindexter, Redd, Rice, Robinson, Ship, Sneed/Snead, Talley, Thomas, Tinsley, Tucker, MULTIPLE LINES, Joyner, Bartholomew, Bennett, Boon, Clark, Council, Edwards, Hardy, House, Jackson, Jones, Mayo, Smelley, Smith, Vick)
in
North Carolina Counties; Franklin; Vance; Granville; Warren; Bute; Person; Nash; Halifax; Edgecombe; Northampton; Virginia Counties; Isle of Wight; Brunswick; Surry; Southampton; Henrico; Halifax; Charles City; James City; Prince Charles; Goochland; New Kent
BARDASH (Brown, Burns, Fisk, Gifford, Hart, Hillier, Huntington, Makernes, Masters, Parrish, Sargent, Street, Vaux, Winslowe) in Texas, Louisiana, Illinois, Arkansas, North Carolina, South Carolina, Tennessee, Northampton England, Oxfordshire England
HUDDLE (same as FULLER above)
CARPENTER (Bell, Smith, Sperry, Parrish, Pedersen, Hartley, Morgan, Reece, Jones, Rees, Gilbert, Dudley, Warner, Walker, Parker, Abbot, Barnes, Ballard, Chapin, Wright, Penney, Marshfield, Maclean, Beall, Cragg, Wiley, Cameron, Williams, Richardson, Randall, Bently, Nye, Patterson, Nelms, McWilliams, Davis, Petersdatter, Rasmussen, Jensdatter, Soresnsen, Ovesen, Delano, Roosevelt) in CA
JACKSON-DALE (Berg, Anseth, Dopking, Stone, Parrish, Ingraham) in Norway,North Dakota,Michigan,Iowa,N.Y.
ROWE (Ashworth, Beste, Boyd, Curtis, Davis, Fralick, Greathouse, Grottenthaler, Jaquess, Jeffries, Justice, Lamb, Pack, Parrish, Redman, Roos, Rowe, Row, Volk, Waltrip, Weaver, Whipple) in Posey County, Indiana; Mount Vernon, Indiana; Evansville, Indiana; Crittenden County, Kentucky; Caldwell County, Kentucky; Webster County, Kentucky; Dickson County, Tennessee; Pennsylvania; Virginia; North Carolina; South Carolina
SETCHFIELD (Setchfield, Salonimer, Goodrich, Parrish) in Michigan and Missouri
EARP and PARRISH are no more than 5th cousin to my mother’s generation, possibly as close as 3rd cousins. The others could be more distant.
Know that is a lot of info but maybe something stands out.
This is what stands out to me.
The locations listed fit Saponi migration patterns, especially the more detailed ones.
Surname matches with my family genealogy are on our known mixed lines; Bailey, Goode, Lewellyn, Tucker, Jones, Smith, Wiley.
Other potentially Saponi surnames?; Green, Allen, Tinsley, Jeffries, Richardson, Rice
Mark, virtually all of the Fuller Maternal lines were mixed bloods in old Granville co,NC. There are many others in other lines but this is the “motherlode” 😉 I will do a fuller analysis (pun intended;-) later. Right now I need to check noon news. We are expecting 6 inches of snow tonight. I’m tired of winter.
MarcSnelling;37793 wrote: Looking at the Parrish family you linked, they seem to have all stayed in NC. These are the current names and surname lists from Parrish cousins we’ve identified in our family DNA project:
PARRISH (Parrish, Smerdon, Hobgood, Royster, Bragg, Wheeler) in Granville Co NC
EARP (related to Wyatt Earp, Gardner, Robinson, Early, Cox, Parrish, Hudson, Risher, Lane) in Maryland; Virginia; Kentucky; Tennessee; Iowa; Missouri; Illinois; California
FULLER (Fuller, Parrish, Bailey, Batte, Belt, Brantley, Carden, Cocke, Cole, Dement, Duke, England, Fletcher, Folkes, Fullilove, George, Goode, Green, Harris, Hight, Humphrey, Johnson, Larcome, Lewellyn, Lewis, Littleton, Merrimoon, Morgan, Munford, Nichols, Patterson, Peebles, Pleasants, Reynolds, Reames, Spivey, Vinson, Williams, MATERNAL, Kennedy, Burnett, Askew, Allen, Barbee, Brewer, Burton, Clayton, Collier, Dickerson, Dudley, Falkner/Faulkner, Ford, Gatewood, Harding, Hewes, Hutchins, James, Johnston, Nowell, Perkins, Poindexter, Redd, Rice, Robinson, Ship, Sneed/Snead, Talley, Thomas, Tinsley, Tucker, MULTIPLE LINES, Joyner, Bartholomew, Bennett, Boon, Clark, Council, Edwards, Hardy, House, Jackson, Jones, Mayo, Smelley, Smith, Vick)
in
North Carolina Counties; Franklin; Vance; Granville; Warren; Bute; Person; Nash; Halifax; Edgecombe; Northampton; Virginia Counties; Isle of Wight; Brunswick; Surry; Southampton; Henrico; Halifax; Charles City; James City; Prince Charles; Goochland; New Kent
BARDASH (Brown, Burns, Fisk, Gifford, Hart, Hillier, Huntington, Makernes, Masters, Parrish, Sargent, Street, Vaux, Winslowe) in Texas, Louisiana, Illinois, Arkansas, North Carolina, South Carolina, Tennessee, Northampton England, Oxfordshire England
HUDDLE (same as FULLER above)
CARPENTER (Bell, Smith, Sperry, Parrish, Pedersen, Hartley, Morgan, Reece, Jones, Rees, Gilbert, Dudley, Warner, Walker, Parker, Abbot, Barnes, Ballard, Chapin, Wright, Penney, Marshfield, Maclean, Beall, Cragg, Wiley, Cameron, Williams, Richardson, Randall, Bently, Nye, Patterson, Nelms, McWilliams, Davis, Petersdatter, Rasmussen, Jensdatter, Soresnsen, Ovesen, Delano, Roosevelt) in CA
JACKSON-DALE (Berg, Anseth, Dopking, Stone, Parrish, Ingraham) in Norway,North Dakota,Michigan,Iowa,N.Y.
ROWE (Ashworth, Beste, Boyd, Curtis, Davis, Fralick, Greathouse, Grottenthaler, Jaquess, Jeffries, Justice, Lamb, Pack, Parrish, Redman, Roos, Rowe, Row, Volk, Waltrip, Weaver, Whipple) in Posey County, Indiana; Mount Vernon, Indiana; Evansville, Indiana; Crittenden County, Kentucky; Caldwell County, Kentucky; Webster County, Kentucky; Dickson County, Tennessee; Pennsylvania; Virginia; North Carolina; South Carolina
SETCHFIELD (Setchfield, Salonimer, Goodrich, Parrish) in Michigan and Missouri
EARP and PARRISH are no more than 5th cousin to my mother’s generation, possibly as close as 3rd cousins. The others could be more distant.
Know that is a lot of info but maybe something stands out.
This is what stands out to me.
The locations listed fit Saponi migration patterns, especially the more detailed ones.
Surname matches with my family genealogy are on our known mixed lines; Bailey, Goode, Lewellyn, Tucker, Jones, Smith, Wiley.
Other potentially Saponi surnames?; Green, Allen, Tinsley, Jeffries, Richardson, Rice
On Parrish line, I’m not familiar with Smerdon but all the other families still have a presence in this area.
On Earp line, I suspect Robinson,Early and Cox could be mixed.
On Bardash, Brown is the main name besides Parrish that stands out.
FULLER (Fuller, Parrish, Bailey, Belt, Brantley, Carden, Cocke, Cole, Duke, England, Fletcher, Folkes, George, Goode, Green, Harris, Hight, Humphrey, Johnson, Lewellyn, Lewis, Littleton, Merrimoon, Morgan, Munford, Nichols, Patterson, Peebles, Pleasants, Reynolds, Reames, Spivey, Vinson, Williams, MATERNAL, Kennedy, Burnett, Askew, Allen, Barbee, Brewer, Burton, Clayton, Collier, Dickerson, Dudley, Falkner/Faulkner, Ford, Gatewood, Harding, Hewes, Hutchins, James, Johnston, Nowell, Perkins, Poindexter, Redd, Rice, Robinson, Ship, Sneed/Snead, Talley, Thomas, Tinsley, Tucker, MULTIPLE LINES, Bennett, Boon, Clark, Council, Edwards, Hardy, House, Jackson, Jones, Mayo, Smith,
CARPENTER (Bell, Smith, Parrish, Jones, Gilbert, Warner, Walker, Parker, Abbot, Barnes, Cameron, Williams, Richardson, Randall, Patterson, McWilliams, Davis,
ROWE Boyd, Curtis, Davis, Jeffries, Justice, Parrish, Redman, Roos, Rowe,
So using Genome Mate, 23andMe cousins, GedMatch cousins, SaponiTown cousins, and ancient DNA samples I was able to further isolate our DNA connection to a Parrish from NC. – Thanks to Vivian Markley for introducing me to Genome Mate!
Looking at the matching segments from my mother, uncle and 1st cousin he is related on two different large segments > 20cM and about a dozen smaller segments > 3cM. Seems likely he could be a cousin on both my grandmother and grandfathers lines.
There is a matching segment on my mothers X that matches him and a large number of other cousins, my uncle and sister (but not me or our Smith 1st cousin). This suggests to me it is a direct maternal or paternal line to him and thats why he has a larger segment than the two dozen others we share it with. This two dozen seem to be mostly women. There is another big segment on chromosme 8, he shares with my mother and sister only and Rachel Payne (A483312) who I met here.
This Parrish cousin has a maternal line from Italy, so the match is definitely his paternal line.
First and second in this picture are his father’s parents Ella Smerdon and Charlie Holt Parrish.
The others are Mary Parrish Coley, Henry Newton Coley, and Effie Parrish Franklin and Oscar Franklin. (Franklin and Coley/Cooley are both names in my direct tree.)
Charlie Holt Parrish (b.1871 Orange NC-1955 Henderson, Vance NC) is the son of David Nelson Parrish b.1846 Orange NC.
David Nelson Parrish’s grandparents are:
Edy Brinkley Cozart 1792-1850, William Lumsford 1779-1850, Polly Carrington 1795-1824, and James Parrish 1795-, all from Orange NC.
Thinking the DNA link has to be from one of more of these ancestors.
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