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December 23, 2014 at 6:31 am #4293
In trying to dig deeper into my moms side and discover who her mystery NA might be,
Ive run across a new name.
I called my Grandma today to ask her about this Pocahontas club and our family history.
She didn’t know what it was all about since she was a kid and they didn’t let the kids in to
see.
She did remember going to Atmur reunions in OH with her Grandma. I took that as a hint to
look up her grandmas mother with that as a last name and hallelujia! Martha Atmur
I found on two census of the Allen county OH, same as her future husband Sylvanous Parker lived.
Which also added another generation, and more Virginians.
So no surprise I find nothing on her dad, Levi Atmore or Atmur b.1700 VA, and wife Louisa b.1806 VA.
They appear to have moved to OH around 1835 since of their ten kids the first to be born in OH is 14 on
the 1850 census. No county known to narrow things down.
Nothing on Genweb, but a couple folks from VA or WV either one, no match.
Nothing but the two census records of OH for him on Ancestry..
I found variants of the name are Atmore, Atmur, Atmer.
I found Atmores in quaker records in OH, PA, and NY,but not my Levi.
December 23, 2014 at 6:31 am #367911850 census for Perry Allen OH
Household Members: Name Age
Levi Atmore 49 VA
Louisa Atmore 44 VA
Marshall Atmore 21 VA
Jesse Atmore 18 VA
Elisabeth Atmore 16 VA
Lucy Atmore 14 OH
Mathias Atmore 12 OH
Emily Atmore 10 OH
William Atmore 8 OH
Eliza Atmore 6 OH
Martha Atmore 4 OH
Harriett Atmore 2 OH
December 23, 2014 at 6:31 am #36792Levi should be b.1800. Va not 1700. Might help. Lol
December 23, 2014 at 6:31 am #36793No records to list source of info but fwiw
Ancestry member trees list Louisa with the Surname of Marshall.
Also say Levi b. 1801 in Harrison, Charles, Virginia.
One states his Parents as Edward Atmore and Mary Douglas.
December 23, 2014 at 6:31 am #36796Another note. 1870 census says he is from WV, rather than VA, as the 1850 says.
December 23, 2014 at 6:31 am #37041Running with tree info found on this line Ive come across many new names…I have a lot of new hints to track on these lines also, so things may change as I research further.
My Levi Atmore is stated as being a son of Edward (Atmur) born 1770 VA, and Mary Douglass b.1775 VA.
Nothing beyond Edward at this point, but the Douglass line goes on in trees.
Mary, daughter of Levi Douglass and Nancy Ann Merrick.
As I go through these lines I find controversial records…of course.
Trees put Levi Douglass born 1761 Cecil MD, while a Sons of American Rev record claims Levi born..
Name Levi Douglas
Birth ABT 1761 – CECIL CO., MD
Death 14 AUG 1787 – HARRISON CO., VA
vs.
Name:Levi Douglass
SAR Membership:81558
Birth Date:1750
Birth Place:Virginia
Death Date:1787
Death Place:Harrison, Monongalia, West Virginia
Spouse:Nancy Ann Merrick
Children:John Douglass
Some trees list Levi Douglass parents as William born 1721 MD, with lines beyond that, and Mary Anderson b.1727 MD.
William of William 1690 Cecil MD and Mary Scutt 1693 Somerset MD. Douglass and Scutt (Scott?) line going back another generation in MD, losing mother surnames along the way and nothing going beyond Mary Anderson at this point…
Following the Merrick, Nancy Ann Merrick
B:1758 D:1838 in Harrison co. VA
Im a bit skeptical at this point because of ages, as trees list her parents as
John Merrick Birth 01 FEB 1717 in ST PETERS PARISH, TALBOT CO., MD and Ann Thompson.
No info on Ann yet, but I would hope she is younger as John would be over 40 when Nancy would be born…
There are a lot of records past John Merrick, and many conflict. A lot to figure out yet there and more tips to follow….In other words subject to change, and I haven’t figured it all out yet.
Merrick goes back beyong John three generations to
John Marlett Merrick Birth 1640 England.. Death SOMERSET CO., MD
John b. 1717 has a mother as
Elizabeth Barron, Birth 1693 ST PETERS PARISH, TALBOT CO., MD
and grandmother of John b 1717 as
Jane Walker, Birth 30 APR 1669 TALBOT CO., MD. Death ST MICHAELS RIVER, TALBOT CO., MD
Jane parents as Daniel Walker and Alice Major.
Trees say,
Daniel Walker Birth Abt 1642 – ACCOMACK CO., VA Death JAN 1702 – TALBOT CO., MD
Find a grave says,
Name Daniel Walker Birth 1642 – Prince George’s County, MD, Death 1702 – Talbot County, Maryland, USA
Daniel father Peter Walker and Alice Woods according to some trees..
Evidently a Daniel is on immigration lists as well
Name: Daniel Walker
Arrival Year:1657
Arrival Place:Maryland
and on international marriage records..
Name: Daniel Walker
Birth Place: En
Birth Year:1642
Spouse Name:Alice
Alice Major, according to trees has a father John Major Birth Abt 1620 in SKIPPERS GUT, ACCOMACK CO., VA
Find a grave says,
Name Alice Walker
Spouse Daniel Walker
Birth 1642 – Accomack County, Virginia, USA
Death1710 – Talbot County, Maryland, USA
Family data says,
Name Alice Major
Father John Major
Mother Jane Lorrimer
Birth 1647 – Accomac, Accomack Co, VA
Death 1710 – Accomac, Accomack Co, VA
On her father John Major I see one on an immigration list, but no date to verify when this arrival was to rule in or out whether its him or not.
Name John Major
Arrival Maryland or Virginia
And then there’s the Barrons,
Elizabeth Barron Birth 1693 ST PETERS PARISH, TALBOT CO., MD
Records conflict on her birth around a ten year span.
But wait! Theres more 😉
Most seem to agree her parents are Joseph Barron and Elizabeth Dragoo.
From there more conflicting records…
Trees say Elizabeth Dragoo
Birth 1674 – Talbot County, Maryland, USA
Death – Talbot Co. MD
AGBI:
Name:Elizabeth Barron
Birth Date:1670
Name:Joseph Barron
Birth Place:MD
Birth Year:1650
Spouse Name:Elizabeth
Spouse Birth Place: of MD
Marriage Year: 1697
Find a grave,
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=98611399&ref=acom
And oh boy its on for whos the father of this Joseph, and where was he born, MD or Barbados?
Was it Robert or William who fathered Joseph? Born 1650, or 55? Or is there more than one?
When you can find records that state both, makes you wonder what to believe.
Find a grave,
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=98611277&ref=acom
The Barron Family,
http://www.look4whittens.com/pleas_kids/james/barronsrtf.html
Family data collections,
Name Joseph Barron
Spouse Elizabeth Dragoo
Father Robert Barron
Birth 1655 – Easton, Talbot, MD
Death 13 May 1725 – Talbott, MD
Marriage 8 April 1697 – Easton, Talbot, MD
and
Name Joseph Barron
Spouse Barron Elizabet
Father Barron William
Mother Elizabet
Birth 1655 – Easton, Talbot Co, MD
Death 13 May 1725
Marriage 8 April 1697
Well, that about sums it up for now.
December 23, 2014 at 6:31 am #37042LAST WILL AND TESTAMENT
County in the Province of Maryland, planter, being sick and weak of body, but of sound and perfect memory praised be Almighty God for the same and being very sensible that all men are born to dye and after that must come to Judgement, being therefore willing to settle my affairs in the world and to dispose of such estate as hath please God to bless me herewithall do make and ordain this my last will and testament hereby revoking and making void all other former wills and testaments heretofore by me made or done in manner and form following. First of all I commend my soul and spirit to the care and protection of Almighty God who gave it and my body I commit to the earth there to be decently buried at the discretion of my executors hereafter named hoping for a joyful resurrection unto eternal glory through the merits of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ who with the Father and Spirit liveth and reigneth one God Blessed forever.
Imprimis: I give and bequeath unto my well beloved wife, Rachel Barron, my dwelling plantation now living upon during her natural life with house and all other stock as well as cattle as horses as hogs and all other things thereon or thereunto belonging and after my wife’s decease the said dwelling plantation above named I give to my daughter Elizabeth Barron her heirs with all the stock cattle. Said as aforesaid she the said Elizabeth living with her mother and to be guided by her until she comes of age, and if my daughter Elizabeth Barron should dye without issue then the said dwelling plantation shall return to my grandson, Joseph Barron, son of John Barron, dec’d and his heirs forever: I will and hereby devise that at my wife’s decease, my household stuff and furniture whatsoever be equally and justly divided between my daughter Elizabeth Barron and my son-in-law George Prouse (who was really his stepson, according to Patrick Harrison), freely and absolutely to them and their disposal:
Lastly, it is my true intent and meaning of those presents that my just debts be honestly paid and discharged at some convenient time after my decease as witnesseth my hand the ninth day of March in the year of our Lord, one thousand seven hundred twenty four. Signed in the presence of Thomas Wills, Henry Woods, and William Servant. Proved in court on 2 June 1725.
Joseph’s estate was appraised by Mich Fletcher, John Catrop on 2 June 1726 at L 24.12.4. Kin: James and Elizabeth Merrick; creditors, Thos. Richardson, William Clayland. Proved 28 June 1726 by Rachel Barron, Administrator
December 23, 2014 at 6:31 am #37043AGBI,
Name:Levy Douglass
Birth Date:1750
Birthplace:Virginia
Volume:45
Page Number:213
Reference:Heads of Fams. at the first U.S. census. Va. By U.S. Bureau of the Census. Washington, 1908. (189p.): 36
Name: Nancy Ann Merrick
Birth Place: VA
Birth Year: 1758
Spouse Name: Levi Douglass
Spouse Birth Place: VA
Spouse Birth Year: 1750
Marriage Year: 1778
Marriage State: VA
Source type: Family group sheet
December 23, 2014 at 6:31 am #37046I’m still trying to absorb this information and compare it to my notes. I’m wondering if Merrick and Merritt are the same as there are many similarities. Douglass is also a name I have recently become aware of in my lines that marries into Jones/Smith.
My genealogy research time has been severely limited lately due to job change, sick kids and travel, but hope to dig deeper into these connections soon.
December 23, 2014 at 6:31 am #37047MarcSnelling;37774 wrote: I’m still trying to absorb this information and compare it to my notes. I’m wondering if Merrick and Merritt are the same as there are many similarities. Douglass is also a name I have recently become aware of in my lines that marries into Jones/Smith.
My genealogy research time has been severely limited lately due to job change, sick kids and travel, but hope to dig deeper into these connections soon.
I wondered the same about the names Merrick-Merritt. Hard to say, but easily possible the way things go.
Interesting about the Douglass also.
Sounds like a full plate! Hope your babies get better soon. Ive got sick kids myself, tiss the season 🙁 :p
Godspeed healing to you and yours.
December 23, 2014 at 6:31 am #37057The most recent Douglass in my line is Jane Douglass 1728-1828 born in Halifax Co VA. She married into my Jones line which marries into Smith and then Potter (my grandmother).
Jane Douglass’ parents are listed as James Douglass (1696-1741) and Jane Wilson (1697-1757). James and Jane were Scottish immigrants to Lancaster Pennsylvania. James was born in Edinburgh Jane in Lanark Scotland. Going back further these lines are from Fife Scotland. The Jones line they marry into are all from VA going back to 1680, no info past that.
Don’t know if I mentioned this rule of thumb before… it’s one I picked up from Bill Childs…. two names can differ by one consonant and multiple vowels and still be the same name. Merrick and Merritt certainly fit that rule.
Douglass is a name I had seen others write about before I ever found it in my own lines. Like Sammarroq and Bill Childs. Initially I just had a feeling that people like that may be related to me, as I’ve done more genealogy I’ve found more common surnames like Douglass that support that.
December 23, 2014 at 6:31 am #37058My Merritt DNA cousin also has a Douglass from this era in her line: Anne Douglass (1680-1710) of Middlesex VA. Not able to see any direct connection between all these lines yet though.
There are also common names between my Merritt DNA cousin and the others here that I mentioned like Sammarroq, Sue Janz, and Bill Childs – Tinsley, Rucker, Allen – all from 1700s VA. Chiles/Childs is another name that comes up alongside these. Even though I can’t see exactly how these families connect – there are too many common surnames/locations to be a coincidence, and obviously DNA matches are not a coincidence.
December 23, 2014 at 6:31 am #37059In doing searches and reading other threads I’ve found so many surnames that I have found on my lines with other people here and various name lists. I just don’t know where to start anymore. It seems like there may be connections everywhere. Not just one line but from all of my grandparents. I’m trying to be realistic and not just assume because a name don’t nesessarily mean relation, but it really makes me want to get my dna done even more so to verify things. Especially with all the conflicting records out there. Lines like this one and the Harrells that have multiple names really do seem suspect to native connections.
December 23, 2014 at 6:31 am #37060There are names I shared with Sue I recently noticed in reading old posts. In fact, I have a Marshall as well, I think that was one someone else had as well as you I just noticed. I saw I had two the same as Dreaminghawk as well. Rice was one, can’t recall the other off hand. These names are just everywhere. I have a hard time remembering them and finding them on my tree anymore because I have to go through everyone to find them lol. My tree has better than doubled in the past few months and I’m not familiar with all of them. Many come from other trees as hints and I’m sceptical till proven, but it may take me years to do that. I can’t deny that the signs seem to be pointing me in a stronger connection than I had originally imagined. But I feel like a dreamer saying that. It would be an honor I don’t want to set myself up to lose. I feel obligated to get to the bottom of it, and whatever the end, I can’t be anything but proud of all the people that made me. Indeed, the good, the bad, and the ugly all played a hand in our history and made the beautiful lot we are today. And we should all be proud of the fact that we are living testimonys to a sometimes brutal history, that its a wonder anyone survived. What an honor it is, to carry the torch today, and be able to call this people family, Americans united, as it should have been from the start. The products of that history. Out of ashes the came the people we are today. Like the fire that hardens and binds steel. We can’t be divided. No matter the mix, we are one. As it should be. I love it. Its so much more than history or genealogy, its healing.
December 23, 2014 at 6:31 am #37061My line is Rachel Rice married Robert Tally on 2-9-1791 in present day Warren co,NC. I have her as daughter of Joseph Rice of Prince Edward co,VA and he is son of Thomas Rice of VA. I have not personally proved her father and grandfather.
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