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Hey I’m back. Just thought that I would share my families old handed down story..atleast word of mouth from my grandma who is white. My dad finally met his biological mom when he was about 30 and I was maybe 5 or 6. My dad’s father had passed away a couple years earlier and my mom tracked her down. My dad was told by my grandma that his dad was a Sioux ndn. Of course through birth records and such I’ve found out different. The language of our people is Siouan and thats the extent of it. Just thought I would share.
Pilahuk
Did they live in the East, or were derived from there? What names/locations were they? Sorry if you’ve told already, I’m not remembering. If they were Eastern Siouan, it’s very interesting that your grandma would have known they were Sioux. My husband has an oral tradition like that, and I’ve heard from a few other people who fit the Eastern siouan pattern when it comes to names and locations.
I had thought originally that the word “Sioux” was fairly recent, originating in the 19th century, but actually, it was coined in the northeast in the 1600s, so it is a word that could have been commonly used back when our people were still relatively intact culturally, before they dispersed (our Diaspora). .
Yes, almost all of my family was in Virginia at one time. Including Louisa, Caroline, Halifax, Amherst and many other counties on the piedmont. In the early to mid 1700s most went to North Carolina, Tennessee or Kentucky. Most of my mothers family went to Pennsylvania and onto Kansas where she was born. Her story is they were just ndns who moved from Pennsylvania. Which is pretty coincidental they moved at the same time as the Seneca and ended up where the Seneca were in Kansas. My dads family is the Collins, Meade, Murray, Boyd, Gray, Young, Gist, Poythress and many others that I will have to look up again. It’s the Meade family that I was given the Tutelo ID and where the Sioux ID was given to my dad. Might be possible my family remembered exactly which eastern Sioux tribe my family came from, but only they would know and they are all gone now. I have all the info written down here. My mom’s family are Floyd, Evans, Wheeler and others I can’t recall right now. Rick Haithcock said the names and locations are Saponi and Catawba as well if that carries any weight at all. My dad’s dad and my mom’s grandpa are both about 1/2 ndn. I’ll get all the pics from my aunt and mom so you can post them here. They’re pretty cool especially one pic of a great great uncle with a bunch of rattlesnake skins that he sold after killing them. Another is 4 generations of family. The ndns on one side with their mixblood (excuse the terminology) kids and the white people they married and their family on one side.
Now you definitely have my curiousity piqued. You say Poythress? Who and where were your Poythress? We need to talk.
And I am curious about your “Gist” surname. It’s lookin more and more like my great great grandfather was Thomas Gist. When he died his wife went by Nancy Guest. Their daughter’s name was spelled Harriet Guess. At least that’s how it was spelled in the records.
I have an aunt who said she was told Sequoyah was a great uncle of Hariet’s. Dad said something similar, but said he couldn’t recall the exact relationship to him. If this is true, that would mean Thomas father was Sequoyah’s brother. But who that was I don’t know, and we can’t prove this relationship, just a family story. These people went from Va to E Tn to NE Al to N. Cen. Al to Ar to IT which became Ok where we still are.
If I can help you with this line let me know.
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I also have COLLINS that I have tracked backward from West Virginia; Kentucky; Virginia; and North Carolina {Flatt River area) then what I think maybe Grayson County Virginia.
BTW: We have got moved into the new house and altho we still can’t find anything it is sure good to be settled and back online.
Brenda aka WVLadybug04 (thanks Crystal for my name)
Ok, heres what I have. In the Hodges line in my family and Gray there are Poythress ancestors. On the Gray side would be the Poythress in North Carolina back in either the 1700 or 1600s. I’d have to look it up. Also on the Hodges side I can go back to a lady by the last name of Farris. Her father was a William Garrison who married a Jane Bowling and a Higgenbotham. If Jane Bowling is her mother then I go back in the red Bowlings. I have other Bowling/Bolling ancestors in the line also. It’s all pretty complicated. Only way I can verify which one is by going to Virginia and looking this up in the state records or if someone in VA had the time to look for me as well. As for the Collins they were in PA at the end of the 18th century then moved to then WV. I believe the father had moved there from VA or NC and I am not sure when. His name is a “Holden” Collins. I am not sure if that is his first name or not. There are no records of him anywhere. I just need a lot of time off of work and a lot of extra cash so I can travel and look it up myself.
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