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Well I finally recieved a good image from England of the oldest known beaded bag that I know of.
Iam trying to figure out how to up load it here, stay tuned, it is probably Souian, OURS!?: it has 4 arrow head shaped tabs on it.
More later.
I can’t be much help this time. I have some kind of adware virus that’s preventing me from staying connected to the internet. I know I have set a limit on file size. I usually end up resizing an image and then compressing it. I also crop pictures to the essential, usually head and shoulders.
Tom,
I just ran across this while browsing the archives, and it rang a bell. That sounds a lot like something I saw described as a “Tanned buckskin purse embroidered with Marginella nirvosa shells. . . Roanoke, Virginia.. c. 1656. Length, 30 1/2″ (77.0 cm). Ashmolean Museum, Oxford, 1686 B370” in Lois Sherr Dubin’s North American Indian Jewelry And Adornment. It also has the four arrow-like tabs.
Does that sound similar to the one you got the better image of? This one was, somewhat oddly, described as “Powatan [sic]”, but I suppose it possibly could have been traded, if the printed identification wasn’t just an outright mistake.
At any rate, I was excited to find a photo of something of the sort from the middle of Tutelo country, so near my home. (And am tempted to try to have a gander at it, and whatever else the Ashmolean has, now that I’m living not so far from Oxford. 😉 ) I would be very interested in seeing the bag photo you have, if you can upload it or e-mail it.
Ohh, 🙂 yes Tom, an e-mail would do, if you get a chance it would be wonderful. I’m back from Indiana. Love the country, but it’s good to be home. Bill is “fine’.;) Lynella.
Hello, yes that’s the one, it has been so hard for me these days to get my act together to post what I have, but I will.
I think that this arrow tab bag is common it still occurs on northern Sioux bags etc. One day I’ll post is, hopefully very soon, all the best, Tom
Hey Linda you should get 4 images soon, the first is the arrow tab bag, the basket is one that I wove, it’s only the outside bottom, and there is 2 northern plains style mirror bags, I’ll expalin more later .
Best to All.
The small basket is made from river cane and is a low form called a fanner or bowl basket, not easy to do and the pattern on the inside is not what you see on the bottom here, commercial dyes and a traditional pattern that I based on the patterns from the clothing posted in “Tom’s Family”.
The bead work is on smaoked hide and is applique stitch, some old patterns and occasionally some old beads.
I thought I recognized that pattern in the basket. I wanted to say something about it reminding me of the pattern in those family pix but was afraid that I was wrong and would embarrass you.
Cindy
The beadwork is fairly generic to the northern plains, the white mirror bag with the green cross’ is from anywhere.
The blue bag is more Blood/Piegan/Crow than anywhere else but still a northern plains stlye.
The basket is ofcourse river cane and a southeastern style. The pattern on the inside is much different from the bottom seen here.
I’ll post or email some inside images to the forum or privately, thanx for the interest.
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