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Hello everyone. I have been doing my genealogy for about two years now and have snagged on a relative whom I have been told for years was Blackfoot. My grandfather Walter V. Higgins’ (1897-1975) father John Henry Higgins (1875 to ?) (both born in Illinois) says that his maternal grandmother was Blackfoot. My grandfather Walter though light skinned, blue eyed and fair like his Irish dad, had very native american facial features. My 1st cousin had dark straight hair, dark brown eyes and had very dominant native american features. In the 70s when we were in our teens, he wore his hair long and parted down the middle (a la hippie style) with a headband no less and he looked very much indian in those days. Anyway…grandpa Walter NEVER spoke of his family ever. No names, no nothing. I found them on the census. Walter’s mother (who disappears when Walter is very young..dont know if she died or what but dad remarried in 1904) was named Wynonia Jacobs (Nona). She was born in Illinois in 1877 but her dad Peter S. Jacobs was born in Kentucky (1842) and her mom Victoria A. Brooks was born in Mississippi in 1844. Peters parents were both from Kentucky. Victorias parents were both from Mississippi as well which makes them born roughly mid 1700s and that’s pretty “native” for Mississippi. The 1870 Census shows PA and VA Jacobs living in Camp Point, Illinois which I read used to be called Indian Camp Point and was a stopping off place both for settlers and Indians…and they changed the name to Camp Point because “the name was too long to fit on the Post Office.” (yeah right!) But VA and PS and the kids are all listed as White. I think I also read on your site that people were either designated black or white after awhile and Indian wasnt even an option. They moved from there to Kansas City in 1880 and then to Chicago. Any chance that Victoria is my missing, mysterious Blackfoot relative? (PS and VA were married in Hinds County, Mississippi)
Dawn
Dawn,
A few observations….
On that 1870 Adams Co., Illinois census for Camp Point Twp, you’ll notice there is a Willie A. BROOKS, 10 (male), b. Mississippi, in the household of Peter S. (age 30) and Victoria (age 26) JACOBS.
Solution 1: Willie is Victoria’s son by a previous marriage?
Solution 2: Willie is a relative of Victoria.
On the 1880 Jackson Co., Mo., Census for Kansas City, Mo., “P.S. Jacobs, 38, b. Ky” ; and V. A., 36, Wife, b. Mississippi” , with the same sons as in 1870, Milton and Frank, both born Illinois.
On the 1900 Cook Co., Ill Census, Town of Lake; Walter HIGGINS, Grandson, 3, b. Ill., is living with Peter and Victoria JACOBS, at 3438 W. 60th St.
I haven’t found Victoria’s parents but should have been able to (well, usually) if her maiden name was in fact BROOKS, which leads me to think that Willie A. Brooks may have been her son by a previous marriage…. but I don’t ‘know’ that.
Peter S. Jacobs was, per that 1900 Census, b. Feb 1838, and Victoria in January 1842.
Peter S. Jacobs’s parents are:
Price Jacobs
b. 16 Apr 1803 Jefferson Co., Louisville, Ky; d. abt. 1850 Adams Co., Ill.
He marr’d 13 Aug 1827 Shelby Co., Ky:
Mary Catherine WISEHEART (also Wisehart & Wyshart)
b.abt. 1808 Jefferson/Shelby Co., Ky, d.after 1850 Adams Co., Ill.
Price Jacobs’ parents:
William Jacobs, b. _?_ Faquier Co., Va; d. before 1833 Jefferson Co., Ky.
marr’d 14 June 1792 Frederick Co., Md:
Jemima MULLIKIN, b.abt. 1773, d. _?_; dau of Elizabeth.
Mary Catherine Wiseheart’s parents:
John (s/o John 1750 Pa) Wiseheart, b.abt. 1775 Washington Co., Pa;
d. 5 Oct 1837 Jefferson Co, Ky., marr’d 9 Oct 1798 Jefferson Co., Ky:
Catherine RAZOR, b. 1787 Pittsylvania Co., Va; d. Nov 1850 Jefferson Co., Ky
dau of:
Paul Razor, b.abt. 1760 Bucks Co., Pa; lived Pittsylvania and Washington Co., Va, d. 17 May 1835 Brush Run Creek Area of Shelby Co., Ky, where they had moved in the 1790’s ;
marr’d Mary Christina COOK, b.abt. 1754 Pittsylvania Co., Va; d. 10 July 1838 Brush Run Creek Area, Shelby Co., Ky; dau of Harmon Cook, b. 20 Jan 1729 Penn??, d. 10 May 1810 Pittsylvania Co., Va; marr’d abt. 1750 Mary Agness _?_ ., b.abt. 1732, possibly Lancaster Co., Pa (but likely S.W. Va, where by 1750 Harmon was hunting) ; d. 10 May 1814 Pittsylvania Co., Va.
Bill
Bill said: “I haven’t found Victoria’s parents but should have been able to (well, usually) if her maiden name was in fact BROOKS, which leads me to think that Willie A. Brooks may have been her son by a previous marriage…. but I don’t ‘know’ that.”
Bill, I found on Ancestry.com Mississippi Marriages, 1776-1935 P.S. Jacobs, Spouse Victoria Brooks, 15 Sep 1865, Hinds County Mississippi. Im thinking that the Willie Brooks listed since she would have been 16 when he was born, was perhaps her brother? But again…people got married and had kids really early way back when, so who knows.
Whoa and wowzers….! How did you find out all that info on PS Jacobs?? I swear I have stared at the results on Ancestry a bazillion times and didnt think anybody listed matched his criteria.
Can you share your secret? 🙂
Dawn
Welcome Legendary. Your Peter Jacob line is sounding awfully like a typical migration path up out of Virginia into MD and PA, KY, then IL. My own family was on similar paths around the same time, particularly Frederick county, MD. Use our search feature for your names and locations, you’ll see what I mean. This place is crawling with Blackfoot descendants with the same names and places popping up all over the place.
I ‘supposed’ P.S. may have met Victoria as a result of his Civil War service as that would be the obvious solution for his Ky place of birth, her Mississippi place of birth, and all their kids being born in Illinois begining just before 1870, but I didn’t locate the marriage record you found.
A search on ‘JACOBS’ for Adams County (Camp Point Twp), Illinois for 1870 turned up Mary C. Jacobs with son Peter whose age matched the 1900 census year of birth for that particular 1870 Peter Jacobs, although that was several years ‘off’ the quoted year… but his wife was Victoria and the rest of the data matched.
This may be over-simplified, but….
Using a 5 year (instead of a 2 year) birth-year discrepancy, my ‘search pattern’ is usually a multi-year/name cross-check (with a concentrated attempt to ‘eliminate’ all apparent ‘possibles’ before ‘pulling the trigger’ on any of them ) with a multi-name substanciation requirement (within a particular family group) , supplimented with at least two additional clarifying record ‘hits’ and a lot of hours of cross checking information and digging for everything there is to be found that would eliminate all possible contradictary information ….
I ‘dub’ that my “yuh rekken, huh? – ” method 🙂
The “whoa” is some of my paternal Grandmother RAZOR/ROBERTS lines, which did shorten this particular search.
Bill
Bill Childs wrote: I ‘supposed’ P.S. may have met Victoria as a result of his Civil War service as that would be the obvious solution for his Ky place of birth, her Mississippi place of birth, and all their kids being born in Illinois begining just before 1870, but I didn’t locate the marriage record you found.
A search on ‘JACOBS’ for Adams County (Camp Point Twp), Illinois for 1870 turned up Mary C. Jacobs with son Peter whose age matched the 1900 census year of birth for that particular 1870 Peter Jacobs, although that was several years ‘off’ the quoted year… but his wife was Victoria and the rest of the data matched.
This may be over-simplified, but….
Using a 5 year (instead of a 2 year) birth-year discrepancy, my ‘search pattern’ is usually a multi-year/name cross-check (with a concentrated attempt to ‘eliminate’ all apparent ‘possibles’ before ‘pulling the trigger’ on any of them ) with a multi-name substanciation requirement (within a particular family group) , supplimented with at least two additional clarifying record ‘hits’ and a lot of hours of cross checking information and digging for everything there is to be found that would eliminate all possible contradictary information ….
I ‘dub’ that my “yuh rekken, huh? – ” method 🙂
The “whoa” is some of my paternal Grandmother RAZOR/ROBERTS lines, which did shorten this particular search.
Bill
Well…whadduya know…hello cuz! 🙂 Do you apply the above recipe to Ancestry.com or somewhere else? The Ancestry Site where I found PS and Victoria is the following:
Exact Search Results – Mississippi Marriages, 1776-1935
You searched for P Jacobs Refine your search
All Birth, Marriage, & Death ResultsViewing 1-2 of 2
View Record Name Spouse Marriage Date County
View Record Victoria Brooks P. S. Jacobs 15 Sep 1865 Hinds
View Record P. S. Jacobs Victoria Brooks 15 Sep 1865 Hinds
After reading PS’s brother James Jacobs history where he was rejected from Civil war service is when I realized too that PS was most likely in Mississippi because of the war. The war was from 61-65 so it looks like he picked up a wife while in service, married her and boogied back to Illinois. I need to find Victoria’s family and the mysterious Willie Brooks’ source.
Hard to find somebody when all they are is a tick mark on a census. “Male – under 5” or something. 🙂
Thanks for your help, you too Ms. Linda!
Dawn
Dawn,
Additional documentation for parents of Price Jacobs.
“Jefferson Co., Ky Marriages Vol 2” by the Filson Club:
“Jacobs, Jemima; to Harmon Wiseheart, 3-14-1830. Bondsman Price Jacobs. Jemima’s father Wm. Jacobs consent by his son Price Jacobs. “
From “Vol 1” of the same source above:
“Jacobs, Price; Bondsman William Jacobs; Wit: Alex. M. Fontaine. Bond 12-29-1825. To
Wiseheart, Mary C.; father John Wiseheart, consent in writing 12-28-1825. “
Per 1830 Jeff. Co., Ky Census, p.136, Harman Wisehart, age 20 to 29 and wife also 20 to 29, lived immediately between the residences of Will Jacobs, b. 1770’s, and Will Jacobs Jr age 20 to 29.
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Bill
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