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A distant cousin and descendant of Sarah Mounts & James Wilson just contacted me last night on Facebook. He is descended from another son of Allen Wilson and told me that his ancestor had moved out to Newton Co, MO close to the border of the Inidan Territory. Allen’s sons Hiram & Jackson were not the only ones to apply for citizenship. “Their brothers – Harvey D Wilson and Harmon Wilson seem to have applied also. If anyone is interested their case number is 5501 and includes Martha J Vaughan and James Ball.”
Tonight he sent me the link for their applications from the Bureau of Indian Affairs at the Archives:
http://www.archive.org/stream/applicationsfrom0054unit#page/n433/mode/2up
It contains 50 pages and does add more information than what we had previously known…
Lynzey
Barbara,
Are you a Wilson/Mounts descendant also?? If so, through which one of their children…contact me via home email:
GeneaBug at suddenlink dot net
Lynda Logan
5th g-granddaughter of Sarah & James through their daughter Sarah who m. Robert Ball
I don’t know the history of this ancestor, but I have a Pamela Mount, born in 1810 in PA, married a Carpenter.
Yes, it’s stated several places that Sarah Mounts (spelled Mounce or Mounse in these applications) was born in 1780 on the Potomac River, Frederick County, Maryland. That fits in with some of the Mounts that Brenda Sampsel has traced.
They don’t say who her parents were, but do say she and David Mounts were considered Cherokee (some of the statements hedge on that, and at least one says something more along the lines of “related to the Indians.” And one statement says explicitly that David and Sarah are brother and sister.
It’s a great set of documents.
My Ezra Hudson was born the same year, same locale. We found some really exciting historical data confirming a Saponi/Tutelo presence there. There was a town near there in what’s now Dagsboro, Delaware that was originally part of Maryland, and called Blackfoot Town (an ID running through my and TechTeach’s families). The Tutelo are noted as having taking part in an attempted uprising against the British around 1720.
Techteach, did you see the last post on this thread, from last July by TomHillDescendant? Did you say sometimes your Hustons were spelled Hutson?
Here’s some pictures of some of my family from there:
I read that about Hutson and Huston online, but I have not record of it happening in my family. They did interchange Huston and Houston.
We have come to believe that Hustons were from PA, since they are listed with the Sinkeys on the Rev War roster. There is also a Hustonville, PA very near where they were from.
We do not know where the Sinkeys were from but the family they married into, McCartney, came from Baltimore. One of my Potter family line, Davis, comes from Sussex, DE. There is no record that any come from around Millsboro; however, a couple of the surnames connected with the family who move to Eastern IA are found there among the Nanticoke tribe: Street and Clark.
Techteach
FREDERICK COUNTY, VA – CENSUS – Taxlist of Col. Holmes 1782
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Mounts, Saml 4 (whites)
http://files.usgwarchives.net/va/frederick/census/1782/1782tax04.txt
When James Addair was made guardian of David Mounts, he was said to be “orphan of Samuel Mounts.”
I have a G…Grandpa named Isaac Bryant Putney on the Buckingham, CO VA District #1, 1850 census. He was 35 yrs old at this time. He married a Nancy Wilson. Isaac was a Millwright. His mother was a Bryant. they were all of NDN and English lineage.
I know it has been a long time since I’ve posted, but life has been rather challenging to say the least. This good news- a primary source- Grandson James who knew his Grandmother Sarah- stg. that David & Sarah are brother & sister is too good for me not to peak my head out from under that rock where it’s been buried, though…..
Here’s a little more I found building on that in Eastern Cherokee Applications.
Eastern Cherokee Application # 42625 of Charles Ball: (His father was James Ball, son of Sarah Wilson Ball who was daughter of Sarah Mounts Wilson.) States mother is “Caroline Walker”.
“I am a descendant of Sarah Mounts whose father was a …full blood Cherokee.” 24 August 1907. Address: Joplin, Missouri
“Myself and my father lived in the Nation as white people by the whites and as Indians by the Cherokees. My father was claimed by the tribe as a Cherokee. It was through negligence that he was not enrolled. Grandparents were from Virginia. I am living at Miamia in the Nation or Oklahoma now. 1834-1835 in Virginia. Indians- not slaves. Charles Ball”. Commissioner Notes: Residence Miami, Oklahoma
Cousin of Application # 42620
Barbara Adair Bauer;36229 wrote: FREDERICK COUNTY, VA – CENSUS – Taxlist of Col. Holmes 1782
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Mounts, Saml 4 (whites)
http://files.usgwarchives.net/va/frederick/census/1782/1782tax04.txt
When James Addair was made guardian of David Mounts, he was said to be “orphan of Samuel Mounts.”
Barbara, Have you had any luck figuring out what area of Frederick Col. Holmes lived?
Brenda, I’m so happy to hear from you! I was afraid you had fallen off the edge of the earth.
No, I haven’t looked yet – I was thinking it was the wrong state, but I guess a Samuel Mounts in Frederick County, VA is better than none. Checking in a rush just now – the Binns genealogy tax lists for Frederick Co. 1782 have Samuel Mounts listed on Throckmorton’s list (don’t know what that’s about).
He’s listed 1790-1795 on William Eskridge’s list. In 1794 and 1795 there’s also a John Mounts. That list is half the county, so it’s not much help pinning down a location.
I’ll look more thoroughly tomorrow and let you know what shows up.
Based on the Virginia personal property tax lists at Binns binnsgenealogy.com/ Samuel Mounts was in Frederick County most years 1782 through 1801. I didn’t find him in 1783, 1800, or 1802 (1802 is the last year Binns shows). John Mounts first appeared in 1789, then again in 1794, and appears to be near Samuel most years from then until 1800. I didn’t find John Mounts after 1800.
During this time Samuel had as many as 7 horses and as few as 2, and never had any slaves.
Trying to pin down where in Frederick County he was, I looked up names of men who are close to him on the 1782 list, and who paid their taxes near the same day in 1789. The best guess I can come up with is Back Creek, on the west side of North Mountain (emphasis on the “guess” part). This would be NW of Winchester, VA.
Here’s the Wikipedia description of Back Creek”
Back Creek is a tributary of the Potomac River that flows north from Frederick County, Virginia to Berkeley County in West Virginia’s Eastern Panhandle. Back Creek originates along Frederick County’s border with Hampshire County, West Virginia at Farmer’s Gap in the Great North Mountain. Its name reflects its location to the west of North Mountain. The perspective of colonists from the east in the 18th century led them to call it “Back Creek”, because it lay to the back of North Mountain.
This is mostly based on grants to Adam Snapp, Joseph Bridges, George Holt and John Hancher.
Last fall I spent some time looking through loose paper files in the Montgomery County Courthouse in Christiansburg, and ran across another mention of David Mounts (spelled Mounce this time). It was an 1804 Common Law court case in which James Addair Jr. sued John Cooper because he failed to pay him for some hogs. James issued a summons for David Mounce to testify in his behalf (along with Ephraim Johnston, John Addair (his brother and my ggg grandfather) Joseph Davis and Henry Smith. The only testimony included in the bundle of papers was from John Addair. If it’s the same David it’s not surprising he didn’t testify – he would have been too young to be a legal witness.
At any rate, it appears to put David in Montgomery County a little earlier, and in company with the Addairs.
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