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Hi,
I am helping a friend with her family line. One of her greats was:
Hannah Canady b. 1797 Virginia died??
Married
Joseph King
Her name that she was known of in the family was ether ( I cant remember which)
Boshe WomaWalk, or Osha MalMa Ark , or Osha WalMa Noche
They didnt know her name was “Hannah”.
Ok, in my husbands line (and I know I talked to someone on here awhile back about the Canady line being a tribe in the south- sorry I can not remember who)
My husbands line has Mary Jane Canady b. 1800 ??Dont know where
married to
Hampton Sailes b. 1797
Their first child was born in Meigs Tennessee.
So, anyone with Canady in the line, please let me know if you have them in your family.
Also, what does the names mean in Native American? Anyone know?
Thanks 🙂
Kamama
Kamama;34301 wrote: Hi,
I am helping a friend with her family line. One of her greats was:
Hannah Canady b. 1797 Virginia died??
Married
Joseph King
Her name that she was known of in the family was ether ( I cant remember which)
Boshe WomaWalk, or Osha MalMa Ark , or Osha WalMa Noche
They didnt know her name was “Hannah”.
Ok, in my husbands line (and I know I talked to someone on here awhile back about the Canady line being a tribe in the south- sorry I can not remember who)
My husbands line has Mary Jane Canady b. 1800 ??Dont know where
married to
Hampton Sailes b. 1797
Their first child was born in Meigs Tennessee.
So, anyone with Canady in the line, please let me know if you have them in your family.
Also, what does the names mean in Native American? Anyone know?
Thanks 🙂
Kamama
Hi Kamama, Once again I have a family name in my tree that’s similar to yours, but may be a variation of spelling. My ancestor’s surname was Kenady. I can give you more info, if you want. :)~}} greydove
Hi Greydove!!
I am sorry, I could not remember who it was I talked to. My mind is busy with taking care of parents and my father in law too.
Yes please, send what you have. My father inlaw, friend and you maybe tied in some place.
Have an awesome day!!
Kamama 🙂
PS…was it you and I who talked about the Redman in the family too???
Greydove!!
How are you? 🙂
I hope to hear from you soon about the Kanady/Canadys. I would love to see how much we run the same family line.
Hope to hear from you soon.
Peace.
Greydove;34304 wrote: Hi Kamama, Once again I have a family name in my tree that’s similar to yours, but may be a variation of spelling. My ancestor’s surname was Kenady. I can give you more info, if you want. :)~}} greydove
Actually, Canada is not necessarily wrong. It was spelled that way too.
Canaday and King are both lines in my mom’s family. From present day Patrick CO VA area, of course. The Canaday family there was quite large…Patrick Billy and his first wife had 24 children. Possible that your Hannah may have come from the same area as Billy’s family. There is an oral tradition that one of Billy’s daughters was a Native…and that she may have been adopted.
Canada/Canaday is an Irish surname, but is also found among some of the Powhatan tribes in VA. An early immigrant was Teage O’Kenedy, who arrived in VA in 1666.
Thank you beeleaf!
I am from the Canaday/Canady from Smith River, Patrick County, Virginia and also Franklin Virginia lines and tryng to figure out my family tree. I also am related to the Kinnett/Kennett (rarely listed as Kenneth) in PAtrick and Franklin. My relatives are Zachariah or Z. Kinnett and Frances Fergeson on the Kinnett/Kennet side and Joshua Canaday (son of Wm. and Martha Canady) and Lydia Short.
I was told I was “Cherokee Souix” and I don’t know what that means. I thought maybe they mean that we were part Cherokee and part of a Souian tribe, or possibly Lumbee. Any light you can shed on this would be greatly appreciated. The tree is on gedcom
http://kennett.tribalpages.com/tribe/browse?pid=23&userid=kennett&rand=753488539&view=0
I’m at a loss where to go now, as its hardto find records. Thank you so much for your post. Sorry don’t mean to hijack a thread, this may be helpful?
Welcome Alpha Mare. I’ve heard of a few people with a family lore of being Sioux. And that’s been in families likely tied to the Siouan people who lived/live here. All of the Piedmont was ours. There were a number of tribes, the last one that everyone got grouped together under was Saponi, though that name was chosen by the Colonial Governor, not us, and may account for why that name is seldom running through families. Then there’s Tutelo, Occoneechee, Monacan, Stuckenock, Sissipaha/Saxapaha, Eno, Shakori and others. You’ll find a lot of information, either through these forums or off the main page.
The Cherokee part of your family ID may indicate intermarriage with Cherokee, or it may have been used to signify “Friendly” Indian, as it was used at one point during the period of the Indian Wars. We’ve had a number of people here with a Cherokee Blackfoot family ID. There’s a piece summarizing our research on the Blackfoot ID at http://www.saponitown.com/Blackfoot.htm
Thank you, Linda! That part about Blackfoot was really interesting. I know the name comes up in Choctaw, and at one point my grandmother put in the census that she was born in Oklahoma, instead of Pennsylvania, which is on her social security death cert.
The story is with the family that they were part of “the Great March”, I don’t know if that is the trail of tears and I don’t think so at all because all family accounted for back east and we aren’t on the rolls. I think it was one of the other Cherokee marches before then, but maybe one of the other forced expulsions of people from their land. Anyway, supposedly they went to where Souian people lived and that is how we are “Cherokee Souix”.
I think that theory on the Cherokee-Souix connection is totally wrong because I can’t find where we ever went out west or even to Oklahoma or Missouri, but the family stayed pretty much in four places as far back as I went per census, Franklin, VA>Patrick Co., VA>Gallipolis, Gallia, OH>Pennsylvania> then to northern Ohio, which is where I’m from. The men worked the river boats and coal mines.
Grandma also used to say they were “French Indian”, which is “Souix” which I know isn’t the right name but she never called herself Lakota or Dakota, only “Cherokee”. I think you are right that it was sort of a lump together category, what people could understand.
My third husband was Ojibwa and he said that she sounded pretty much like the Woodland Indians. She loved muskrat and squirrel, but mostly muskrat. We used to leave her tobacco, though I didn’t know why back then. It was the only time I didn’t get in trouble for stealing cigarettes!
I had read in one of Parkman’s histories that the word “Canada” which we also get called, is the Algonquin word for “village”. I don’t know if that is true. He thought the name Kinnett might be a version of the word for “mixed”, though the Kennetts go way back.
Thanks again and I hope this helps some and also the link to the tree on Gedcom. I hope to read posts and learn more about the Saponi.
Marji
Alpha Mare, hi and welcome!
Always good to meet a cousin. Seems to happen more on SaponiTown than anywhere else online.
Thanks to Linda for this forum being here.
Your Joshua & my Pleasant were brothers. My line comes from Pleasant’s son Riley. We may also connect through Josh and Pleasant’s brother Stephen, but that’s another story.
Joshua was apparently named after his grandfather, Joshua Wright (Martha’s father).
Have you ever seen this site?
http://www.cemetarian.com/OFT_Cannaday.php
James is said to be Patrick Billy’s father.
My family has always referred to us as Cherokee, although we are pretty sure some roots are actually Powhatan. More recently learned from newfound cousins that our family also has oral tradition of being called Blackfoot. It has been mentioned in both the Bowling/Collins line and the Holt/Hundley line, both of which connect to the Foleys, which is who Riley Canaday’s daughter married. Another cousin here from Patrick County has family tradition of Sioux plus Cherokee, but will let her tell ya about it.
Lumbee is a possibility, considering the Goins on in Patrick County. ;~) Maybe some lost track of which tribe(s) they originally came from, when language and lifestyles got blended.
Is also possible for some lines that Grandma said Cheraw…and we added the “kee” on the end because it was familiar.
Thanks for replying cuz! Its great to meet relatives and this site is great, we are here!
My g-grandma had a maiden name of Kennett (I always thought of her as grandma because I had an aunt younger than me and we played at her feet). we have the features in our family, and it seems so weird that the blood would be so diluted. I found out last night that the Kennett/Kennette/Kinnett/Kinney/Keny/Kene/Kinne line goes back to Henry Keny in Salem who made accusations againt people in the Salem witch trials (he would have been very old, or it was his son–no way to tell)! But the man’s history doesn’t go back reliably (there are people making assumptions) to any ship coming over to America or roots. There is some evidence going back to Virginia.
The “Kennet” name seems be a “Frenchification” of Kinne or Kene or Keny. My third husband was Ojibwa and speculated that Kinne or Kinnet was perhaps from the word for “mixed” and this was the origin of that name. Kennette gets associted to Kennedy in some lines which goes back to Canady which is a family circle.:)
Its so good to talke to you beeleaf! Marji
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