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October 21, 2004 at 1:43 pm #15793
Mariposa,
Just to let you know that I’m working on them.
Bill
October 21, 2004 at 1:43 pm #15801Hello,
I was reading your post. I am a decendant of pegues and still use the name. My grandfather was Lasalle Pegues. I want to give you the correct information on the surname. It is french not portuguese. It originally belonged to Some french Hugenots who migrated to england in the early 1600’s and then to England. They then came into the Early carolinas with the british. One of the oldest Family members being Claudius. They owned slaves mostly in South Carolina. You will find many black pegueses there. As well as Anson County. That’s where my family is from. We must be realted. I am decendant of Nero Pegues and Lasalle was his son and Lasalle was my mothers father. I am sure we are related.They had other family members who spread out over the United States and you will find Pegues in Arkansas, Alabama, Texas, Florida, North and South Carolina and many other states. Their Decendants (Whites) have a site on Ancestry.com There was some squabbles but you should check it out. The name has been corrupted and mispelled it is originally Pegue. E-mail or reply.
Thanks.
Shoshone
October 21, 2004 at 1:43 pm #15804I also forgot to mention my family hails from Morven, North Carolina. What’s up Cousin. Looks like we are 99% related. Would you like to try DNA test like I have done to confirm your native heritage. I am also related to owens in Morven. If it is Henry or Ira owens??? Thier Mother and My maternal great grandmother were sisters, and may be decendant of the Chowan indians from gates county. They were Bennetts. Mr. Ira owens could pass for a white man. (my grandma’s first cousin). Do you know Vivian streater Pegues and Arnold Pegues??? My aunt and brother respectively.
Shoshone
October 21, 2004 at 1:43 pm #15833Mariposa,
1910 Census
Chesterfield Co., SC – ED32 Cheraw Twp; 18 April; Sheet 3B, Visit 52:
CARRAWAY, Martha; Farm laborer; 45, m’d once; m’d 30 yrs,
—————17 children, 13 living; b.NC; father b.SC; mother b.NC
………………, George; son, 22, NC, NC, NC.
………………, Cester; son, 20, NC, NC, NC.
………………, Allis; dau, 18, NC, NC, NC.
………………, Maggie; dau, 12, NC, NC, NC.
………………, RACHEL; dau, 11, NC, NC, NC.*******
………………, Fellow; son, 10, NC, NC, NC.
………………, May; dau, 7, NC, NC, NC.
………………, Robert; son, 4, SC, NC, NC.
………………, Essie; dau, 1, SC, NC, NC.
Visit 53:
CARRAWAY, Roxie; Farm Laborer; 19, 2 child.,2 living, NC, NC, NC.
…………….., Willie; son, 2, SC, NC, NC.
…………….., Alexander; son, 3 months, SC, SC, NC.
9 houses before Martha Carraway is a Wesley PEGUES family with a WALL nephew which I’ll come back to when I complete the Pegues line.
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1900 Census
Anson Co., NC – ED7 Morven Twp; 14 June; Sheet 8B & 9A;
Visit 145:
CARAWAY, Robert; Farm Laborer, Dec 1847, 52,m 22yr, NC,NC,NC
……………, Martha; wife; Apr 1860, 40, m 22, 11 child.8 living, NC, NC, NC.
……………, Mary; dau; Jan 1887, 13, NC, NC, NC.
……………, George; son; July 1889, 10, NC, NC, NC.
……………, Roxy; dau, Aug 1892, 7, NC, NC, NC.
……………, Kesler; son, Sept 1893, 6, NC, NC, NC.
……………, Lockhart; son, Jun 1895, 4, NC, NC, NC.
……………, Martha; dau, Aug 1897, 2, NC, NC, NC (twin)
……………, Hannah L.; dau, Aug 1897, 2, NC, NC, NC (twin)
……………, RACHEL; dau, July 1899, 10 Months, NC, NC, NC******
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Bill
October 21, 2004 at 1:43 pm #15910Chavis is actually a VERY common name today in the Lumbee group in SC. I’ve met quite a few of them over the years. In fact, my aunt Flossie (my mom’s sister) was married to Andy Chavis in Cassopolis, MI. His ancestors were from SC. My cousins are Tim and ZoeAnn Chavis who live here in Colorado, but we’re all from Cassopolis.
The Chavis’ (Chavous, and other spellings) who live in SC today look to be a true tri-racial mixture. They have light skin, different grades of hair from straight to very curly, brown, green and blue eyes, and many (like my family) have freckles. There was an “infamous” Chavis when I lived in Orlando, FL that was arrested for a murder. He was in all the papers. It stated he was a “Lumbee” from SC that had just gotten to FL and then committed this murder.
Tommy
October 21, 2004 at 1:43 pm #15922Actually, Pegues is a French name. Please see below:
French
Except for the difference in language, the French system of names closely resembles that of the English. French contact with the English during the period of development of English surnames is largely responsible for the similarities. Please find the following surnames of French origin: Chevrier (one who took care of goats), Legault (a dweller by the woods), Pegues (one who produced and sold pitch, or wax) and Rozier (dweller near a rose bush).
TK
October 21, 2004 at 1:43 pm #15940Dear Tsunami,
Thanks for the input. It was very helpful. I have also seen early slave records that list mulatto Chavis who were probably the forbears of some of this clan. If I find it I will post it. Many were freed or born free early on. Ofcourse mingled with whites and mix raced indians. I have seen many Lumbees and have some distant cousins who are Lumbee. Some look black, white and otherwise. Many decendants of Africans and southeastern indians are often racially mixed wether they look it or not. I just want to note that many Lumbee preferred to intermarry with whites as opposed to thier black brethren. Even lived and be schooled separate During early periods. My Lumbee distant relative even put her race down as White even though she wasn’t. I have also spoken with some Cherokee who do not consider them “real Native Americans”. I guess it’s all just the ugly politics of race that separates and divides us even though many of us are decendants from the same ancestors. Whether they were brought over as slaves early on from africa or came from Europe. Do you also remeber the two that murdered Michael Jordans father? One was a
Lumbee.
Take care.
Shoshone
October 21, 2004 at 1:43 pm #16110Shoshone, get out of town!! We are definitely cousins! I will have to give you the exact name of my Owens relation. I believe that I heard my grandmother refer to Ira as an uncle??? I know that I descend from David Owen (married to Mary Helen STREATER). DNA testing sounds great! Gotta run, details to follow. Bill, I want to be like you when I grow up! You are awesome, thanks for the info!
October 21, 2004 at 1:43 pm #16117DAVID OWENS/Owin
I didn’t find any of them prior to 1870.
Follow this census data thru 1900 and you’ll see that these are the same people.
1870 Census
Anson Co., NC; Morven Twp; P.O: Wadesboro; 15 August; p.11, Visit 62:
OWIN, D.; 31, male, White, Blacksmith; $0, $0, NC.
………, Lisy A.; female, White, NC
………, Narcissus, 6, f, W, NC
………, William, 4, m, W, NC
………, Margaret, 3, f, W, NC
………, MARY, 2, f, W, NC******* (Mary Helen)
………, Hattie, 1, f, W, NC
………, Rily; 45, m, B, Works on Farm; $0, $0, NC.
………, Sinda; 23, f, B, NC
………, Silvey; 9, f, B, NC
………, Robert; 5, m, B, NC.
………, -infant-; 5 months; m, B, (b.Feb); NC.
CAPEL, D.; 12, m, W, Works on Farm; NC.
(an “S. Streeter”, 32, m, W, NC with presumed wife Hannah, 26, f, B, NC and 7 children, are 2 houses before David Owin.)
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1880 Census
Anson Co., NC; District 2 Morven Twp; 28 June; p.46B; Visit 414:
OWIN, David; Mu, m, 40, Blacksmith, NC, NC, NC.
………, Lecy; Mu, f, 36, wife, NC, NC, NC.
………, Narcis; Mu, f, 17, dau, NC
………, William H.; Mu, m, 14, son, NC
………, MARY H.; Mu, f, 13, dau, NC*******
………, Hetta; Mu, f, 11, dau, NC
………, Sherrel; Mu, m, 9, son, NC
………, Adah; Mu, f, 6, dau, NC
………, Emeline; Mu, f, 4, dau, NC
………, Isak; Mu, m, 3, son, NC
………, James M.; Mu, m, 1, son, NC.
………, Sim; Mu, m, 2 months (b.Apr), son, NC.
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1900 Census
Anson Co., NC; ED 8 Morven Twp; 6 June; Sheet 4B; Visit 60:
OWENS, David; Blacksmith; B, m, 55, Widowed, Ohio, Ohio, Ohio.
…………, Sherrell; son, B, m, 27, SC, Ohio, NC.
…………, Ada; dau, B, f, 23, NC, Ohio, NC.
…………, Isaak; son, B, m, 22, NC, Ohio, NC.
…………, Simson; son, B, m, 19, NC, Ohio, NC.
…………, Gilbert; son, B, m, 16, NC, Ohio, NC.
In 1910, Sherel Owens, 37, and wife Janis, 26, are still in Anson Co but I didn’t find any of the others.
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James S. PARSON, the only one in Chesterfield Co., SC:
1930 Census
Chesterfield Co., SC; ED10 Cheraw Twp; 3 April; Sheet 2A; Visit 19:
PARSON, Edd; Laborer LumberMill; m, Neg, 60,Widowed;SC,SC,SC
…………., Edd Jr; son, 23, SC.
…………., Anna D.; dau, 18, SC.
…………., JAMES S.; son, 16, SC.*******
…………., Mary D.; dau; 15, SC.
…………., Atherton; son, 11, SC.
…………., Florence D.; dau, 8, SC.
…………., Willie P.; son, 6, SC.
…………., Ethel D.; dau, 4, SC.
I’m still looking for them in 1920.
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“Tilly” WALL:
1920 Census
Chesterfield Co., SC; ED35 Cheraw Twp; 14 January; Sheet 9B; Visit 12:
WALL, Greene; Manager, Farm; m, B, 30, SC, SC, SC.
………, Rachel; Wife, f, B, 25, SC, SC, SC. (nee: Caraway)
………, Eligh(a); son, m, B, 5 (?); SC.
………, TILLINA; dau, f, B, 2, SC.*******
………, Susan (?); dau, f, 7 months, SC.
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STREETER/STREATER:
1880 Census
Chesterfield Co., SC; ED5 Courthouse District; 9 June; p.317C; Visit 139:
STREATER, Pleas’t.; B, m, 37, Farmer; NC, NC, NC.
……………, Katy; B, f, 35; wife, SC, NC, NC.
……………, Hugh; 17, son, SC.
……………, Lucy; 15, dau, SC.
……………, THOMAS; 13, son, SC*******
……………, Phillip; 12, son, SC.
……………, Fanny; 8, dau, SC.
……………, Lemmon; 6, son, SC.
……………, Pleasant; 4, son, SC.
……………, James; 3, son, SC.
……………, William; 2, son, SC.
(the children’s mother is listed as b.NC so it leaves me uncertain if Katy is their mother or if the census taker just erred.)
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1900 Census
Chesterfield Co., SC; ED21 Courthouse District; 18 June; Sheet 13A; Visit 230:
STREATER, Thomas; farmer, B, m, May 1867; 33; SC, SC, SC.
……………., Helen; wife, B, f, May 1872; 28; NC, NC, NC.
……………., LEANER; dau, Mar 1894, 6, SC.*******
……………., Clifton; son, Apr 1895, 5, SC.
……………., Elizabeth; dau, Apr 1896, 4, SC.
……………., Gussie; dau, Apr 1898, 2, SC.
……………., John; son, Mar 1900, 2 months, SC.
(Thomas & Helen are listed as being married for 8 years and Helen has had 5 children.)
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1910 Census
Chesterfield Co., SC; ED32 Cheraw Twp; 29 April; Sheet 12B; Visit 205:
STREETER, Tom; Farmer, B, m, 40, m1, 20 yrs, SC, SC, SC.
……………, Hellen; Wife, Mu, f, 40, m1, 20, NC, NC, NC.
……………, LEANIA; dau, 16, SC.*******
……………, Clifton; son, 14, SC.
……………, Lissie (?); dau, 12, SC.
……………, Gussie; dau, 10, SC.
……………, Nomie; dau, 8, SC.
……………, Cora; dau, 6, SC.
……………, Hellen; dau, 4, SC.
……………, Jack (?); son, 4 (?), SC. (this line is nearly illegible)
……………, Thomas; son, 2, SC.
……………, not named; son, 8 months, SC.
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1920 Census
Chesterfield Co., SC; ED40 Courthouse Twp; 21 February; Sheet 19B; Visit 354:
STREATER, Thomas; m, B, 52, Farmer; SC, SC, SC.
……………, Hellen; f, B, 46, Wife, SC, SC, SC.
……………, Gussie; 19, dau, SC.
……………, Nomie; 17, dau, SC.
……………, Cora; 15, dau, SC.
……………, Hellen; 13, dau, SC.
……………, Thomas Jr; 10, son, SC.
……………, William; 7, son, SC.
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Bill
October 21, 2004 at 1:43 pm #16119MERRIMAN, McBRIDE
1920 Census
Chesterfield Co., SC; ED40 Courthouse Twp; 12 Feb; Sheet 13A; Visit 222:
McBRIDE, Francis; Farming, f, B, 60, Widowed; SC, SC, SC.
…………., Malela; dau, f, B, 29, SC
…………., William B.; son, m, B, 20, SC.
…………., Willie C.; son, m, B, 19, SC.
…………., Georgian; dau, f, B, 18, SC.
…………., Julius; son, m, B, 11, SC.
…………., George F.; son, m, B, 6, SC.
MERRIMAN, George; Cousin; m, B, 64, Widowed; SC, SC, SC.
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1910 Census
Chesterfield Co., SC; ED37 Courthouse Twp; 29 April; Sheet 16A; McFarland Road; Visit 274:
MERRIMAN, Mallard; Farmer, m, B, 50, m1, 24, SC, SC, SC.
……………., Francis; Wife; f, B, 40, m1, 24, 8/8, SC, SC, SC.
……………., Marier (Mariah); dau, 18, SC
……………., Laura; dau, 12, SC.
……………., May; dau, 11, SC
……………., Charles; son, 8, SC.
(Mallard and Francis married one time, for 24 years; Francis has had 8 children, all are still living.)
(George Merriman not found in 1910)
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1900 Census
Chesterfield Co., SC; ED21 Courthouse Twp; 13 June; Sheet 9B; Visit 170:
MERRIMAN, George; Farmer, B, m, Apr 1850, 50, Wid’d; SC,SC,SC
……………., Mazilla; dau, July, 1878, 21, SC.
……………., Addie J.; dau, Apr 1884, 16, SC.
……………., Davida (?); G-dau; Apr 1900, 1 month, SC.
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Same 1900 census as above; 22 June; Sheet 15B;
Visit 283:
MERRIMAN, Mariah; Farmer; B, f, Mar 1840, 60, W’d; 3/2; SC,SC,SC
…………….., John; Grandson; Mar 1883, 17, SC, SC, SC.
…………….., Francis L; Grandson; Mar 1890; 10, SC, SC, SC
A–?–N(?).., Dora; Granddau; Dec 1886, 13, SC, SC, SC.
(Mariah is widowed; has had 3 children, 2 are still living.)
Next Door, Visit 284: (Mallard & Francis’s family but mostly illegible)
MERRIMAN, —–?—, farmer; B, m, —- —-, 37, m’d 15, SC,SC,SC
……………., —–?—, wife; B, f, — 1868, 32, m’d 15, 7/6, SC,SC,SC
……………., —–?—, son(?), Sept —-, 12, SC.
……………., —–?—, dau; Aug 1889, 10, SC.
……………., —–?—, dau; Jun 1892; 8, SC (should be “Mariah”)
……………., —–?—, dau; — — ; 6, SC
……………., Laura; dau, Apr 1896, 4, SC
……………., May; dau, Dec 1898, 1, SC.
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1880 Census
Chesterfield Co., SC; ED5 Courthouse Twp; 29-30 June; p.333C; Visit 423:
MERRIMAN, Geo.; Mu, m, 27, m’d, Farmer, SC, SC, SC.****
……………., Francis; B, F, 25, m’d, Wife, SC, SC, SC.****
……………., Ballard; 6, son, SC.
……………., Wesly; 5, son, SC.
……………., Zealy; 3, dau, SC.
……………., Marlay; 1, dau, SC.
……………., MEADY; B, f, 75, Grand Ma; SC, SC, SC.*******
Next Door, Visit 424:
MERRIMAN, Peter; B, m, 47, m’d, Farmer, SC, SC, SC.
……………., MARIAH; B, f, 44, m’d, wife, SC, SC, SC.
……………., Mallard; B, m, 17, son, SC.
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Bill
October 21, 2004 at 1:43 pm #16141HILLIAN/HILLIANS
1930 Census
Chesterfield Co., SC; ED17 Courthouse Twp; 4 April; Sheet 2A; Visit 18:
HILLIAN, Thomas J.; Farmer, male, Neg; 79, SC, SC, SC.
…………, Martha; wife, female, Neg; 70, SC, SC, SC.
…………, LEMUEL T.; son, 30, SC.*******
…………, Thomas J.; son, 25, SC.
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1920 Census
Chesterfield Co., SC; ED40 Courthouse Twp; 20 Feb; Sheet 18A; Visit 321:
HILLIAN, Thomas; Farmer, 69, m’d; SC, SC, SC.
…………, Martha F.; wife, 60, m’d; SC, SC, SC.
…………, Henry E.; son, 39, SC.
…………, LEMUEL; son, 26, SC*******
…………, Fletcher; son, 20, SC.
…………, Thomas J.; son, 18, SC.
(Thomas owns this farm)
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1910 Census
Chesterfield Co., SC; ED37 Courthouse Twp; 29 April; Sheet 15B; Visit 268:
HILLIAN, Thoms J.; Farmer, 59, m’d1, 34 yrs, SC, SC, SC.
…………, Marthy; wife, 52, m’d1, 34yrs, 9/8, SC, SC, SC.
…………, Rebecca; dau, 34, m’d1, ? yrs, 4/4, SC, SC, SC.
…………, Johnie; son, 30, m’d1, 2 yrs, SC, SC, SC.
…………, Edmon; (son), 29, SC.
…………, Willie; son, 25, SC.
…………, Luther; son, 23, SC.
…………, LIMUEL; son, 17, SC.
…………, Fletcher; son, 15, SC.
…………, Tommie; son, 12, SC.
…………, Joffice; Grandson?, 12, SC.
SANDERS, Johnie; Grandson, 9, SC.
………….., William; Grandson, 7, SC.
………….., James; Grandson, 5, SC.
………….., Lacoste; Grandson, 3, SC.
(My take on Rebecca & the elder Johnie is that they are married and their last name is SANDERS but don’t know for certain. Johnie would then actually be “son-in-law.
Edmon is listed as a ‘daughter’ but this is Henry E., their son.)
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1900 Census
Chesterfield Co., SC; ED21 Courthouse Twp; 13 June; Sheet 10A; Visit 176:
HILLIANS, Samuel; Farmer, B, m, Unkn 1837, 63 m12, SC, SC, SC.
………….., Henrietta; wife, B, f, Sept 1861, 38, m12, 7/6, SC,Sc,SC
………….., Louisa; dau, June 1889, 10, SC.
………….., Mary; dau, Mar 1891, 9, SC.
………….., Samuel Jr.; son, June 1893, 6, SC.
………….., Dora; dau, June 1896, 3, SC.
………….., Thomas J.; son, Apr 1899, 1, SC.
DAVIS….., Simon; Step-son; July 1880, 19, SC.
Visit 178:
HILLIAN, Thomas; Farmer; Apr 1851, 49, m24, SC, SC, SC.
…………, Martha, wife; Jul 1860, 39, m24, 9/9, SC, SC, SC.
…………, John C.; son, Jan 1879, 21, SC.
…………, Edmund; son, Aug 1881, 18, SC.
…………, William F.; son, Mar 1884, 16, SC.
…………, Rufus P.; son, Aug 1887, 12, SC.
…………, LEMUEL P.; son, Feb 1893, 7, SC.*******
…………, Fletcher D.; son, Dec 1895, 4, SC.
…………, Thomas J. Jr.; son, Dec 1898, 1, SC.
…………, Joseph; adopted son; Mar 1887, 13, SC.
Visit 179: (Thomas’s mother)
HILLIAN, Phillis; —, B, f, Dec 1820, 79, Widow, 1/1, SC, SC, SC.
DAVIS, Fannie; Granddau; Oct 1892, 7, SC, SC, SC.
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1880 Census
Chesterfield Co., SC; ED5 Courthouse Twp; 21 June; Sheet 30B; Visit 243:
HILLIANS, Sam’l; 43, farmer, SC, SC, SC.
………….., Siller; 43, wife, SC, SC, SC (probably “Priscilla”)
………….., Judy; 16, dau, SC.
………….., Phillis; 14, dau, SC.
………….., Sally; 12, dau, SC.
………….., Ida; 10, dau, SC.
………….., William; 8, son, SC.
………….., Wadler; 6, son, SC.
………….., Maggie; 4, dau, SC.
………….., Friday; 2, son, SC.
Visit 245:
HILLIANS, Friday; B, m, 80, Farmer, SC, SC, SC.*******
………….., Phillis; B, f, 60, wife, SC, SC, Africa.*******
CRAIG…., Clem; 14, Grandson, SC, SC, SC.
Visit 246:
HILLIANS, Thom.; 23, Farmer, SC, SC, SC.*******
………….., Fannie; 22, wife, SC, SC, SC.
………….., Beck; 3, dau, SC. (probably “Rebecca”)
………….., John; 1, son, SC.
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1870 Census
Chesterfield Co., SC; Courthouse Twp; 15 Aug; p.6:
Visit 45 (Samuel’s family – last name misspelled.)
HILLIARD, S., 28, male, B, Laborer, $0, $0, SC
………….., S., 24, female, B, SC.
………….., B., 11, male, SC.
………….., I., 8, female, SC.
………….., J., 5, female, SC.
………….., W., 1, male, SC.
Visit 64 (Friday’s family – last name misspelled.)
HILLIARD, F., 50, male, B, Laborer, $0, $0, SC. (Friday)
………….., P., 40, female, B, SC. (Phillis)
………….., J., 21, male, SC.
………….., T., 18, male, SC. ******* (Thomas)
………….., M., 16, female, SC.
………….., F., 13, female, SC.
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On the 1870 Marshall Co., Alabama Census, Subdivision 45; p.100; P.O.: Hillian’s Store; visit 777:
MARCUM, Reece; 34, m, W, farmer, Ala.
…………., Nancy; 23, f, W, Ala. (plus 4 children)
HILLIAN, Hily; 70, f, I (Indian), Ala.
…………, William; 21, m, I (Indian), farm laborer, $0, $225, Ala.
JOHNSON, James; 17, m, I (Indian), farm laborer, Ala.
ELLIOTT, Lucy; 15, f, M (Mulatto), Ala.
(Hily is probably “Mahala”, and Mahala Hillian, 56, b.KY, is on the 1860 Marshall Co., Ala Census for Hillian’s Store, but listed as “W” instead of “I” for Indian.
On the 1860 Marshall Co., Ala census, Mahala Hillian has a daughter named Nancy P., who could be the Nancy who marr’d Reece Marcum.)
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Bill
October 21, 2004 at 1:43 pm #16168Bill, all I can say is WOW! I can’t believe all of the information that you came up with! I can’t even thank you enough! As far as the Hillian side, I don’t know much. We speculate that they came from Alabama but as slaves. Still unsure of them. I found a David Owin in 1860 in Rockingham District (also a Blacksmith, I can’t remember his race on this census). He was living with, May Lowden/Louden, a woman of an unspecified race and a Black boy who I just assumed is an apprentice. He has a different last name and a family with the same last name is living nearby. I believe that it’s this census that says that he was born in Ohio.
>>1870 CensusAnson Co., NC; Morven Twp;
P.O: Wadesboro; 15 August; p.11,
Visit 62:OWIN, D.; 31, male, White, Blacksmith; $0, $0, NC………., Lisy A.; female, White, NC………, Narcissus, 6, f, W, NC………, William, 4, m, W, NC………, Margaret, 3, f, W, NC………, MARY, 2, f, W, NC******* (Mary Helen)………, Hattie, 1, f, W, NC………, Rily; 45, m, B, Works on Farm; $0, $0, NC………., Sinda; 23, f, B, NC………, Silvey; 9, f, B, NC………, Robert; 5, m, B, NC………., -infant-; 5 months; m, B, (b.Feb); NC.CAPEL, D.; 12, m, W, Works on Farm; NC.>>
Bill, why would a White family (or ESPECIALLY one that is passing) allow a Black family of the same last name to live with them? What are some possible scenarios here? It just looks strange to me. The search continues…
Shoshone, I need to make a correction. My paternal grandmother’s mother was Leanna Streater, daughter of Thomas Streater and Mary Helen Owens Streater. Mary Helen’s, father was David Owin and Lecy Owin. My grandmother has a picture of Mary Helen’s brother Sherrill with his wife, Janis. I can’t remember where Ira fits in, but I recall family members mentioning a Henry and Darnetta Owens. Ira just passed in the past 2 or 3 years, didn’t he. He was very tall with reddish (?) hair? I met a descendant when my grandmother took me to Morven a couple of years back, but I cannot remember her name. Who were Ira and Henry’s parents? Hey, email me about the DNA testing, I’m very interested! My email
October 21, 2004 at 1:43 pm #16171I’m guessing but maybe the “White” family wasn’t white and the “Black” family wasn’t black? In Anson County at that time, there are a lot of “W” and “B” mixed families and I wouldn’t expect to find that so soon after the war, unless they are Natives.
October 21, 2004 at 1:43 pm #16221Dear Mariposa,
Yes Darnetta was my grandmothers Aunt. She was the older Sister of my Great-Great grandmother Kiler Bennett. Darnetta’s Name before she was married was Darnetta Bennett. She is listed as an infant on the census of 1880. Bill Bennett head of household and Linde or Malinda Bennett(MY GG grandmother) her mom. The are all listed as mulattos on that census. There are several Bennett households. Henry was also her brother listed as a mullatto 5 years of age.
The patriarch and the oldest member I was able to trace back was Bill Bennett, 70 years old and listed as a mulatto, the father of Darnetta’s father Bill. He was born around 1810. This is the one I believe is decendant of the clan of Chowan indians of gates county some who were listed as Bennetts. listed on the 1880 census also with his wife Chaney, listed as black and their son Patt, who was listed as mulatto like his dad. I often wondered why they would list the father and son as mulatto and the mother as black. I also found them listed in Morven on the 1870 census. However I speculate based on oral family history ecspecially from my mom Olivia Pegues that they were mixed with indian as well as white. This is what my DNA test showed. More white than indian genes did prevail, African being the larger percent. She always used to talk about uncle Frank Bennett who she said had long black wavy hair like an indian and a beautiful brownish red complection and almost pure gold capped on his teeth they used to braid his hair into long platts. She Also mention they used to talk about thier indian ancestors when she was small. This was darnetta’s brother. I have an army photo of his son Little Frank. I also found his obituary with the help of a geneaologist. He was then listed as an elderly Negro. I Just got some old photos of my grandmother Frankie Darnetta’s niece and my uncle in the 1930’s. Darnetta married an Owens who were black and white mixture. Her son Ira and Henry owens were very light Ira was exactly as you described. Could almost pass for white with reddish hair. Henry owens grandkids our cousins as well as myself and my baby has sandy colored hair. I’ve dyed my hair jet black though. I also remebered some of my cousins Henry owens children visiting us looked like they could have native and white genes.
As you know Mariposa this is the story of the south and African americans we have a tri-racial histsory whether we know it or not.
Indians were enslaved with Africans on Early southern plantations and some slaves escaped and joined the natives. Based on my studies this is where lots of us inherited indian blood. Other reminants of indians were totally absorbed into the black population.
The Dna test is free but the lab charges about $219 to process it. It will tell you a lot. You get a certificate of your Dna make up wich shows what percentages your genes show and if you have any DNA as well. You may even show some Asian DNA like myself which is linked to Native Americans. Being they migrated from Asia they show large portion of Asian DNA. I will e-mail you pictures of some of the photos.
Take care Cousin!
Shoshone:)
October 21, 2004 at 1:43 pm #16222Dar Mariposa,
I don’t know if I forgot to even answer the original question. Darnetta was the mother of Henry and Ira Owens! Henry and Ira are my grandmothers first cousins to make it simple.
Will send some photos!
Later cousin!
Shoshone
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