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hi everyone, great site.
thought i might find some link to my family. john cole born abt. 1760 in buncomb,nc..married cuzzie anderson b. abt.1760 in NC…
dont have notes in front of me so i will have to get back with need info…
My husband has Coles in his family. That’s in Mecklenberg County, VA. We can see from the family photo album that that’s a Native line in the family. I believe we found the name written as Cole on occasion.
What COLLINS line do you research?Mine comes from Colonial Virginia, touches base in North Carolina, migerated to SE Virginia, then over into Kentucky before ending up in the mountains of West Virginia. They were a mixed blodline probably white/indian/black.
Some COLLINS from this line went north to Michigan, some went to Missouri, and others went west to Lewis County,Washington. Mine still live high in the mountains of WV. They were called “Hillbillies” by most folks.
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forgot some cousins brenda!
From mo some of our collins went to arizona to california to washington some des are in alaska. These were the ones that worked in the fields.forgot some cousins brenda!
From mo some went to arizona to california to washington some des are in alaska. These were the ones that worked in the fields.almost forgot some are in texas, idaho 
may have to rechange this post as i find more relatives he he.
hello..my collins line is biddy collins married william cole abt.1820. biddy is the daughter of valentine collins and dicy?
hello..my collins line is biddy collins married william cole abt.1820. biddy is the daughter of valentine collins and dicy?
it seems we started in buncome,nc to lee co.virgina to breathitt,ky to muskogee,ok to oh,nm,texas ca.
We just got a written statement from a 90 year old Tucker from Mecklenberg Co., VA stating that his family is Indian decended and so were the Coles in my husband’s family. He said he knew my husband’s great great grandfather David Coles and that he was known for killing a turtle and eating its heart raw for courage and stamina. He also stated that many of the families in that vicinity were very Indian blooded people.
The information below is some notes I have on this line. Samuel was a son of Old Thomas Collins of the Flatt River, believed to be full blood Indian,( possibly Saponi). According to Jack Goins, these were Samuel’s children but in those days they had huge families so I believe there are more unlisted. Floyd County Ky census 1820 has several Collins listed and Valentine is there with my Meredith and Meredith’s son Bradley Collins. Valentine lived near Meredith in Floyd County,later it became Pike County Kentucky. Both families intermarried with the Roberts families. I have several files on ROBERTS Lines. Both men are of age to have been brothers.
Samuel Collins m. ? in NC
**Children
Valentine
Vardy
Ambrouse
George
Thomas
Valentine m. Pricy ?
**Child
Joshua Collins b. 1805 Tenn d.Feb 1, 1854 KY
m. Elizabeth Dale
**Children
William b. 1828 m. Levisa Ratliff
Elijah b. 1831 m. Nancy J. Ratliff
Elisha b.1833
Lydia b. 1837 m. George W. Collins
Allen Collins m. Phoebe Collins
Cynthia Collins b. 1841
Elizabeth Collins b. 1841 Floyd Co. Ky
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well i guess having collins ancestry makes qualifies one to be a virginia cousin doesn’t it?we have been finding more collins family in the tidewater,william and james collins and other collins we found in1860 census others in 1850,dont really know for sure what indian they were claiming.we have also a married in line of collins as well.there is a pamunkey collins line today but if you read pocahontas people by roundtree collins were living on pamunkey rez but left because of goverment pressure as they were not considered pamunkey.maybe saponi?since so many tribes claim collins even cherokees these people got around. anybody got some good speculations?i need more to ponder on. have a great day!!!
screamingeagle,
If you really want to add to the confusion here is some Collins reading……
“One More Mountain to Cross”
http://bj_dillon.tripod.com/one_more_mountain_to_cross.htm
This article was published in the Wise Co. Va. Appalachian Quarterly. The article was written by By Frankie Blackburn with Brenda Collins Dillon, Joyce Lea Kollenberg, Cynthia Jane Steeley, and additional sources provided by John Trulinger.
The following will be a compilation of the work of several researchers who, record by record, will try to piece together the history of the Collins family of Appalachia. This family cannot simply be traced to the “immigrant” ancestor, as some families can. There are many questions yet unanswered.
The names of many Collins men; Lewis, David, Thomas, Vardy, Valentine, Meredith, Elisha, Ambrose, George, Joseph, John Sr., John Jr., Joshua, George and Griffin Collins have appeared in many documents; tax lists, census records, deeds, land transactions, court cases and so on, in the states of North Carolina, Virginia and Tennessee for many years. They crossed many mountains and flat boated down many streams. The trail is not definitely marked, and has many crooks and bends, much like the mountain streams they lingered near. To find our heritage is a mountain in itself.. Yes, they have left us.. one more mountain to cross.
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brenda,thanks for the site it keeps the story going after va,nc,etc.another little tidbit which i believe was in the roundtree book if im not mistaken,the collins family took on this name from a white family in va.thats all i know.will check to see what else i can find on that.my gut tells me these are the same people,seems most are saponi.boy i wish i had a time portal!! have a great day!!!!
On the subject of the COLLINS name……
According to researchers on the Melungeons, Collins and Shepherd were living in Virginia as friendly Indians and stole the name from them.
1742 Orange Co. Court case there was a John Collins listed as one of the Saponi Indians.
“Alexander Machartoon, John Bowling, Manincassa, Capt Tom, Isaac, Harry, blind tom, Foolish Jack, Charles Griffin, John Collins, Little Jack, Indians being bought before the court for stealing Hogs. , Ordered that their Guns be taken away from them till they are ready to depart of this county, they having declared their intentions to depart this colony within a week.”.11 On pages 309-312 of Orange County Court Record book the above named men individually put up security.11″
I also have some copied material I believe was sent to my by Linda and there was a “COMMISSIONER of INDIAN AFFAIRS who was named John Collins. He was also used as an interperter. In most cases interperters were some degree of Indian or they were married to an Indian woman.
It is only speculation but I have always believed that the 26 Saponi’s in 1742 court case that were ordered to leave the county were later the same men living in Granville Co. along the Flatt River.
Thomas Collins Sr. b 1710 , probable children were; Thomas Jr. b 1728, Joseph b 1730, Samuel b 1732, John b 1734, George b 1736, Elisha b 1738. They settled on the Flatt River as the following records reveal.
“Land Grants from the Earl of Granville to the earliest settlers, The Granville Dist. Of N.C. 1748-1763 Vols 2 & 4 by Hofman.” 29 Oct 1751 -Grant to William Churton, 640 acres on the south side of Flatt River joining John Collins on the Rocky Branch. Grant is for warrant issued to Thomas Gibson (#3775) 1752. 250 acres to Thomas Gibson on the Flatt River. 28 Oct 1752 640 acres to Joseph Collins on the South West side of the Flatt River Witness- Thomas Collins and James Lilkemper.
If you find that time portal I want to go along for the ride.
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Life is a Rainbow made up of Many Different Colors…..
On the subject of the COLLINS name……
According to researchers on the Melungeons, Collins and Shepherd were living in Virginia as friendly Indians and stole the name from them.
1742 Orange Co. Court case there was a John Collins listed as one of the Saponi Indians.
“Alexander Machartoon, John Bowling, Manincassa, Capt Tom, Isaac, Harry, blind tom, Foolish Jack, Charles Griffin, John Collins, Little Jack, Indians being bought before the court for stealing Hogs. , Ordered that their Guns be taken away from them till they are ready to depart of this county, they having declared their intentions to depart this colony within a week.”.11 On pages 309-312 of Orange County Court Record book the above named men individually put up security.11″
I also have some copied material I believe was sent to my by Linda and there was a “COMMISSIONER of INDIAN AFFAIRS who was named John Collins. He was also used as an interperter. In most cases interperters were some degree of Indian or they were married to an Indian woman.
It is only speculation but I have always believed that the 26 Saponi’s in 1742 court case that were ordered to leave the county were later the same men living in Granville Co. along the Flatt River.
Thomas Collins Sr. b 1710 , probable children were; Thomas Jr. b 1728, Joseph b 1730, Samuel b 1732, John b 1734, George b 1736, Elisha b 1738. They settled on the Flatt River as the following records reveal.
“Land Grants from the Earl of Granville to the earliest settlers, The Granville Dist. Of N.C. 1748-1763 Vols 2 & 4 by Hofman.” 29 Oct 1751 -Grant to William Churton, 640 acres on the south side of Flatt River joining John Collins on the Rocky Branch. Grant is for warrant issued to Thomas Gibson (#3775) 1752. 250 acres to Thomas Gibson on the Flatt River. 28 Oct 1752 640 acres to Joseph Collins on the South West side of the Flatt River Witness- Thomas Collins and James Lilkemper.
If you find that time portal I want to go along for the ride.
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