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Thanks, Shirley. Ever wonder about some of these familiar names being used as first names? For example, I remember seeing Gibson and even Granville used as first names with Collins and/or Mullins surname. Think it may be one (of many) reasons I stay so confused. ;~)
Have a wonderful, safe drive. See ya soon.
Bee
beeleaf wrote: Thanks, Shirley. Ever wonder about some of these familiar names being used as first names? For example, I remember seeing Gibson and even Granville used as first names with Collins and/or Mullins surname. Think it may be one (of many) reasons I stay so confused. ;~)
Have a wonderful, safe drive. See ya soon.
Bee
Yes, they seemed to have names that were relevent for the time, place and community. Thank you and we will see you soon!
Shirley
I’m An African American Female I’ve Been Searching For Information Concerning My Great Grand Father David/dave Collins I Know He Was Half Black/indian Originaly From Some Part Of Virginia But Later He Moved To Mississippi. I Was Wondering If Anyone Can Help Me That Have Any Black Bloodlines With The Collins Family.
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Nicole
Hi, What are some of the melungen traits:confused: .My Collins side came from Amos or John, I don’t know.
knoxwanda wrote: Hi, What are some of the melungen traits:confused: .My Collins side came from Amos or John, I don’t know.
I think I know what you are talking about, but I want to put my two cents in about the term, “melungeon.” This was an offensive term used to coin a group of mixed-blood families, the more I read…the less I like the term and all associated with it. If you are refering to the particular familes that were abased by this term, well, they were mixed bloods.
My gggrandmother was a Gibson, had sharp features, dark eyes…I look much like her, but got tall and lanky genes from the Baldwin and shortridge side.
I have read about the shovel teeth…don’t have em’ I have some pretty ferocious “eye teeth,” though. As for the “Anatolian bump,” don’t have that either…the back of my head is so flat I can’t wear head bands, because they slide right up the back of my head…lol
I don’t think there is a recipe for melungeon traits or mixed-blood traits…because we are just that, “mixed-bloods,” which means the combinations are endless.
I probably haven’t answered your question, but it seemed like a good platform to vent my “melungeon” frustrations. Blessings,
Shirley
Shirley, I think you stated it quite well. Vent away 😉
It’s like many other terms that start out very specific then are broadened almost to the point of being meaningless. It is growing to carry the same meaning as “metis” meaning simply “mixed”.
There are NO Melungeon traits!!!
Shovel teeth has been debunked, Anatolian bump debunked (everyone has a bump at the base of their skull where it meets the spinal column), Strange blood illnesses are debunked (my wife is an RN & I can break out Tabor’s Medical Dictionary to prove it is all a farce), extra digits have nothing to do with race, etc., etc., etc.
Even all the names associated as being Melungeon…look up Adkins for example, mine are listed quite a bit. NOT Melungeon. Most of the names have nothing to do with Melungeon, which as sammarroq has said is just a word for mixed race. Native American, White, African American. Not Turks, Moors, or Aliens from the planet Cyborg. Carmelites were not Melungeon either, they were mixed Native American, African American, and White.
Kennedy was a theorist who believed whatever came to mind. Sold alot of books to people craving to be something…anything because they have no idea who they are or where they came from. Alot of others followed suit and wrote books for these folks to grasp onto based on theories and not facts. It sells, so why change the formula?
I still find it hilarious that those of us from the Carmel area of Ohio, or those of us around the area, are “shushed” when we open our mouths about the truth of what is really going on. The reason they try and shut our mouths is because it doesn’t fit into their grand fantasies and theories, so they can’t sell their garbage to those who don’t know better…if they find out the truth and “know better.”
I could write a book on all the truth myself just on this posting. But you can search my previous postings for that. Educate yourself about these people because it is all a con job.
Hey Steve….I know we must be cousins somehow…can you refresh me/scoop me please? My maternal family were Carmelites as well…have cousins still residing there and about. My most prominent surnames from that area are: Nichols, Gibson, Cole, Collins, Perkins… thanks much in advance for a reply….perhaps you have a tree posted somewhere online? Take care~~~Laurie
I’m not familiar with a Henry from PA….although there are numerous Henry’s in my tree and Nancy’s too for that matter. I know that Bryson Gibson had a brother Henry but have not been able to follow his line successfully. Were your Gibson’s ever in VA or KY or TN? When as a group did they come to OH? Do you know if they MD into any of my/our Nichols/Gibson lines? Thanks for the mention/post. ~~~~~ Laurie
Steve:
Any details on those Gibsons other than location or surname? I have a ggggrandmother, surname McLane, who comes from Beaver, PA, born circa 1814. No parents but allegedly full-blood.
Techteach
I am a descendant of Rebecca Collins who married Stephen Carpenter. Rebecca born in 1745 I have her as a child of John Collins with his spouse unknown. I have found along with the research listing Rebecca’s father as John Collins, several other children listed as John’s children with the Sprague last name. Here is how I found it listed; 1. Leah Sprague b. 14 NOV 1738, 2. Bethia Sprague b. 14 FEB 1739, 3. Tamar Sprague b. 9 DEC 1741, 4. Rebecca Collins b. 1745 in VA, 5. Amos Sprague b. 20 JUN 1747, 6. Moses Sprague b. 25 MAY 1749, 7. Rachael Sprague b. 5 FEB 1751, 8. David Sprague b. 14 MAY 1754.
If anyone has info on this John Collins please let me know.
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