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June 2, 2004 at 5:29 pm #10268
OK, This makes more since now.
My grandma was Lavernia Spencer. Her parents were John Jones Spencer and Wilmoth Hatta Bennett (d/o Catherine/Kate and Charles Lewis Bennett……I have a picture of grandma Catherine sitting by a spinning wheel smoking a corn cob pipe. It is a treasure . also one of grandpa Charlie that looks like he just stepped off wagon train) Jones Jones Spencer was the son of washington spencer who was son of James Spencer. I don’t know much about this Clevenger and Young connection. I have them in my files but haven’t done much with those names. ( I have Clevengers “Unrelated” from my mother’s side but they are from Clarksburg, WV)
As for the Collins…..I still don’t see a connection however there must be one. Meredith had a son named James Collins who married twice. I only have the name of first wife Susan Holloway. I believe they resided in Kanawha Co. WV. I only have part of his children so it is possible your line comes through that branch. James married a second time and had a second family but I have never located any of them.
. JAMES2 COLLINS (MERIDITH1) was born 1804 in Russell Co. Va.. He married (2) SUSAN HOLLOWAY 1824 in Pike Co. Ky. She was born 1810, and died 1833. He married (3) UNKNOWN Bef. 1849.
Children of JAMES COLLINS and SUSAN HOLLOWAY are:
i. SETH D.3 COLLINS, b. 1826.
ii. MARGARET COLLINS, b. 1828.
iii. SUSANNA COLLINS, b. 1833.
Children of JAMES COLLINS and UNKNOWN are:
iv. VIRGINIA3 COLLINS, b. 1849.
v. MARY COLLINS, b. 1854.
vi. WILLIAM COLLINS, b. 1857.
Bill,
Can you add anything to this branch? I know James went to court to seek permission to marry Susan. This was because she was under the age to marry. Susan was placed into the guardianship of James til she reached the age of maturity. They left Pike Co.and went to Logan Co. , then Kanawha Co. and I loose them. There is a span of several years between the first family and second.
June 2, 2004 at 5:29 pm #10273Brenda,
Hurt my arm. Can’t type well/fast…….
1850 Kanawha Co., (W)Va; District 29; 7 Aug, pg.23, at 300, 314:
all b.Va:
James Collins, 45, m, – , laborer, $0
Sarah E., 45, f, – .
Margaret A., 22, f.
Susanna, 17, f.
Virginia, 1, f.
Seth D., 24, m, – Laborer.
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1860 Kanawha Co., (W)Va; P.O. Upper Falls of Coal; 16 June; pg.42, at 290, 290 (all b.Va)
James Collins, 55, m, -, farm lab’r, $0,$0.
Sarah, 55, f.
Margaret A., 29, f.
Jane, 10, f. (same as Virginia?)
Mary F., 6, f.
Wm. C., 3, m.
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1870 Kanawha Co., WV; Jefferson Twp; P.O.: Contsmouth (Montsmouth?); 16 July; pg.137A, at 140, 140:
James Collins, 66, m, W, farmer, $0, $0.
Sarah, 66, f, W.
Margaret, 43, f.
Jane, 22, f.
Mary F., 19, f.????
Millie C., 17, f.????
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I wrote something down wrong – see next post.
Bill
June 2, 2004 at 5:29 pm #10274Okay, 1870 s/b:
Mary F., 19.
Millie C., 12.
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Bill
June 2, 2004 at 5:29 pm #10275Brenda,
Caution:
The kids’ ages do not seem to be Sarah’s kids.
maybe they are Seth & Margaret’s and Margaret is not James’s dau??? something’s not right…… ‘course we are looking at our Collins 🙂 hard tellin’
Bill
June 2, 2004 at 5:29 pm #10276Thanks Bill,
This seems to be one of those times when the census keeper came and was given some wrong information. James did have a daughter named Margaret born 1828 and by his first family. Some of the younger children look to me like “grandchildren”.
It is really strange that half brother, Levi Collins lived in Lincoln Co.; brother ,Archibald Collins lived in Logan County, brother William Collins lived in Nicholas County; brother Edward Collins died while living in Mingo County; brother John W. lived in McDowell County and nothing is known of brother, James Collins or his family.
Brenda
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